any new developments regarding Landmark/EST and it's original founder?
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good one Stoic ...as you say, right out of the proverbial horse's mouth!
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yeah, of course you are right, helpme2times, i guess that was a bit of a rhetorical question...and i forget that a lot of people are just way too innocent and trusting. Not like an old bird (ah, buzzard!) like me..seen way too many scams, and been the victim of a couple in my early years... i checked out that Dave's blog on one of the links, and find it interesting how he has that audio
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yep, helpmetwotimes; what begs the question is WHY people even want to sign up to be taught these "tactics" and "tricks"... if a product is good, and people need or want it, they will buy it....but if your product is not good, then i guess you will have to resort to "tricks" and manipulative "tactics" to PUSH your product on unsuspecting people...just as
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("Covert Hypnosis Power www.kevinhogan.com Dave is the author of several books including How to Sell When Nobody's Buying. [...] One of Dave's greatest talents is structuring persuasive storytelling. Story sells. Most people can't tell a story. When you watch Dave in March don't just LISTEN to the stories he tells, watch HOW he structures those stories into hi
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random thoughts from The Shadow: "making money is as easy as 1-2-3" says James Ray (aka DeathRay)...i would really like to hear from any of his followers who have achieved this promised success.
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good post Crista The Shad
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yep Anticult. it is a neverending job to remain vigilent and expose these "sociapaths" who prey on the mental frailties of others...i have been away for awhile, but thanks for your continueing work here. The Shad
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"I am fully aware and understand that I will be given the opportunity by the Company to participate in physical, emotional and other activities during the Event, some of which may take place outdoors and/or require the participants to be isolated from one another and/or include very loud music. I am fully aware that I may suffer physical, emotional,financial or other injury during any of
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"The fact: No one, including Mr. Ray, could have foreseen sweat lodge consequences even remotely close to what occurred here. " from the deathray Blog. I have been to three Sweat Lodges; all legitimate First Nations Lodges. The third one i attended put me off Sweats for awhile, having said that it is the RESPONSIBILITY of the people offering the Sweat Lodges to foresee ANY possible
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"I've wasted all the time I intend to with people who apparently limit their experience to a forum where they can be anonymous rather than actually doing something to make the world a better place." says Mr. Lakhani typical, as soon as you don't get your own way, or people don't agree wity you, you "bad-mouth" them = "rather than" do "something
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QuoteThe Shadowfourthy, fifthly, sixthly....??? and blah blah blah...honestly, who has time to read all this drivel? sorry, i should have prefaced this comment with an address to CSP...i just scrolled through all this stuff, really don't have time to ponder all his/her regurgetations...
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fourthy, fifthly, sixthly....??? and blah blah blah...honestly, who has time to read all this drivel?
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QuoteThe Anticulthttp://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,308136,00.html Tom Cruise Rewards Scientology Honchos Sunday night, Tom Cruise rewarded high-ranking members of the Church of Scientology with tickets to a private screening of his new movie, "Lions for Lambs." This is the provocative anti-war movie which he executive-produced for United Artists with partner Paula Wagner.
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QuotecspHey Shadow (aka Shad) ... clear out your box and I'll send you a private message. :-) csp, right, now i see...you perhaps object to me suggesting that your analysis of my response to your question to me is simplystic???...[not actually a personal comment about you...but i'm not really interested in verbal jousting, and not really interested in engaging in a personal e-mail co
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QuotecspQuoterrmoderatorcsp: In private messages you have repeatedly stated (twice and counting) that you were unhappy and quitting this message board. You even demanded that your membership be removed. But you keep posting here. Why is that? Why not post whatever you want Shadow to know on this thread publicly rather than through private messaging? He made a personal remark about m
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Quoterrmoderatorcsp: In private messages you have repeatedly stated (twice and counting) that you were unhappy and quitting this message board. You even demanded that your membership be removed. But you keep posting here. Why is that? Why not post whatever you want Shadow to know on this thread publicly rather than through private messaging? Hi rr, thanks again for your vigilence.
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Quotehelpme2timesGood lord, question lady, THANK YOU for voicing something I have felt many a time. I cannot stand Trolle's gobbledygookspeak! Quotequestion ladyIf I hear one more Tolle-head analyzing themselves and everyone around them with their" tricky ego" -"pain-body" gibberish I might have to go scream. My tongue is bleeding from biting it too often. You can&#
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QuotecspQuoteThe Shadowunfortunately "America", and in large part Canada too, don't realize that not only will they lose their egos, they will also lose their minds... we are already in a mental health crisis, and it is going to get worse, with all these poor trusting souls detaching from their egos, and turning into a bunch of sniveling lunatics! Actually, it is quite the opposi
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QuoteSallieDoes anyone know people who practice this stuff? I do. I know one woman who gave up custody of her children(hard to be a mom when the little brats interfere with your mind melding moments). This woman loves Oprah. The kids don't. i don't know anyone, although a friend of mine has read the Tolle book...but i refuse to get into a lengthy discussion with her about its cont
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Quotethunderbyrdhere's Oprah's newest thing: i hope i'm not the only one here who finds this disturbing. and while we're at it, why does the world pay so much attention to this woman, anyway? Hi thunderbyrd; yes indeed, it is disturbing, but what is more disturbing is that the world is so ripe for all this...people ARE so lost and confused in this material world of
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QuoteDownToEarthHey, Anticult: Shad, I only caught snippets of the 2nd TC interview. I was busy around the house and it just looked like a puff piece with celeb endorsements, so I didn't bother recording it. I missed the questions from the audience, but I would imagine the whole thing was carefully vetted. I also used to really like Oprah, but I always did notice a tendency that s
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QuoteDownToEarthI watched Friday's Oprah with the TC interview. With the style of brainwashing that Oprah's been doing over the past few months (or, rather, getting people to do it to themselves), I've been wondering what she's going to do next. I mean, once you wipe people clean, SOMETHING has to go in there. As Anticult said on another thread, "What's the main c
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QuoteThe AnticultSaw some of the Oprah with Tom Cruise show. It was just media-counter-SPIN-persuasion for Cruise to try to get his image back. FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE. Fake laughter, fake humility.... Cruise all soft-spoken, Oprah lobbing him softball questions...ignoring the facts of the Scientology, and letting Cruise get away with saying anything he wants. Now she is going to ha
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unfortunately "America", and in large part Canada too, don't realize that not only will they lose their egos, they will also lose their minds... we are already in a mental health crisis, and it is going to get worse, with all these poor trusting souls detaching from their egos, and turning into a bunch of sniveling lunatics! of course you are right Anticult, Oprah is not an evil
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yep! I watched about 30 minutes of the show, as I was thinking, one cannot really comment about something when one does not know what it is all about, but it was just so simplistic and as you say "blah blah blah"; a simplified version of Goenka-ji's teaching of Vappasena, Budihism, Zen, but at the bottome of it, it all sounded so much like Landmark, with all their little catch phr
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QuoteThe AnticultThere seems to be a debate...who's worse? Eckhart Tolle or Byron Katire? ET or BK? Eckhart Tolle is no bargain. He claims to be an Enlightened Master, and people believe him? He bashes the Mind yet claims he has an "intense conscious presence of the teacher". It is shocking that so many people seem to just believe anything anyone says. Just short speeches
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What I remember most about the forum leaders is how immaculately dressed they are. The quality of their clothing, the healthy shine of their skin, the expensive jewelry and shoes. Then in contrast the "shabbiness" of the over-worked "volunteers" is quite marked. hmmmm, gee, I wonder why that is? Also, when I attended with my friend, Alan Edleman was the leader, and whe
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QuoteelenaThanks for posting this, Nettie. Lots of people wouldn't believe this but Landmark and all the other cults are constantly trolling for, screening, and sifting for "volunteer" labor (slaves) -- the turnover's pretty high. It's just business to them and what business wouldn't love to have workers they didn't have to pay. It's a great business m
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QuoteZorroThis week I traveled to see an old friend in Illinois that I haven't seen since before my Landmark experience. She has known me very well for 10 years, and just happens to be a mental health professional on top of that. While we were chatting we started asking each other if we've noticed any changes in each other. I was astonished when she told me that I'm still the same
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