You have hit the nail on the head so to speak Glam, Landmark teaches one thing but does another, not just in this type of situation but in others too. If they ask you to do something and you say no they ask you to be unreasonable. When you say you can't because of what ever reason they challenge you again to be unreasonable even if it means doing something that could get you fired.
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The interesting/scary thing with the mocks are that whoever is doing the mock is really opening themselves up to more humiliation and embarrasment until they complete the mock to the standard that is desired. You can be made to repeat the same paragraph time and time and time again until its right. including the right emphasis on words or even just the way you look while you are doing it. Moc
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Hi Glam, A mock is a practice introduction, you do it infront of other graduates and they pretend to be guests. you get graded by a senior Introduction leader or by your ILP coach. Or once you are an introduction leader, all the introduction leaders get together once a month to "mock" the introductions so that they can get feedback and work on their presentation and delievery.
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Glam, these seven things are printed on the brochure for the"being extraordinary" seminar Landmark run
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Glam, This is how Landmark works all the time, I can't remember the number of times I was hauled up in front of the introduction leaders to "confess" and go over why I "broke" my word. The introduction leaders programme (which is what these people will be on) pushes you all the time, you must assist you must register people. you say you will register so many people e
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Lec Escapee I totally agree, Landmark should be shut down. The way they treat people who assist and staff is disgusting. They regulary get away with breaking employment laws because staff are so deeply entrenched in "landmark" thought patterns they dont argue even when something is not right.
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Its interesting to see that graduate separate his "true self" from his "mind" of course this is want Landmark wants to shut down the mind that says "take care" and "be cautious" because once you shut this down you can be fooled into believing you are "happy" " generous" etc. a Happy generous person assists a lot more then someone w
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Hi LEC Escapee, I guess every manager is different and every centre is different. That manager is not following LEC policy if he is telling people to quit their jobs. As for jobs being offered left righ and centre because staff do not stay long, this is the same world wide, staff are pushed and pushed so quickly that they quit simply because they realise they can never suceed. I managed
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Glam that is exactly what landmark does, makes you lose who you are because they make you believe that you (your identity) is a bad thing. they make you believe that the small voice you hear in your head is a bad thing. Both your "identity" and that "voice" are your critical thinking, cognitive reasoning. Once you lose those you are able to be easily manipulated into doing w
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Landmark does not come out and say quit your job you will be happy nor does it say quit your job what it does say is its up to you to be happy, you need to talk to your managers and let them know you are unhappy you are told to disclose your inauthenticities to your managers (this can lead to you being fired of course) or they challenge you to be unreasonable and jump into what you want to do, th
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OMG that is so sick. I can't believe Landmark would stoop so low as to make money from people who have lost everything including family members.
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Marc you are absoloutely correct when you say landmark want the higher ups. They want people who are in a position to have other people attend the forum (and other programmes). In New Zealand, despite one of the offices running at a large deficit LEC continue to keep the office running simply because it in the country capital and where the seat of government is. They have had several polic
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I have been sitting here laughing at the reasoning you have come up with for the numbers on your nametags when you go to an introduction. It is a lot more simple then you think Each main event has several introduction leaders. you are given a number to show which introduction leader you will be with. A senior successful introduction leader may have a larger number of people to lead to while
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savernake - according to landmark decisions are based on too much thinking and looking at all options and consequences while a choice is just that a choice with out thinking you make a choice with out thought of anything else. Landmark use the example chocolate or vanilla - choose. if you have a reason why you have chosen its not a choice hope this explains it for you
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Hi LECescapee, Thanks for the warning. I am taking some precautions but the reality is that I live in a small country and so anyone with half a brain from this place could work out who I am. I am in the process of going through all my legal agreements and other documentation with a lawyer and will ensure that I do not do anything that could result in my being taken to court. Sonnie
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It would be interesting to get a copy of the articles that was translated so that we could read it. I do know that when New Zealand had a lot of press coverage the people pulled out of courses like flys and I took most of the flack from the higher ups. "I was not causing their participation" or "I was not being the possibility of them fulfilling on their committments"
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It would be interesting to read that article. Landmark pushes all the good news and even makes it introduction leaders read it over and over but now I wonder if they have censured the articles and re-written them before copying to read? I will PM you Glam with my E-Mail address if you could please send me a copy of that article.
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Cousin, Unfortunately I dont know much about the sweedish office being shut down. Other then I believe it just wasn't making enough money to cover itself. If an office is not making enough money generally it will be closed unless they want the office there for a political or special reason. I know that the office I used to work in was being kept open despite running at a loss simpl
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QuoteIMHO do they believe their "transform the world" sales pitch or not or some of both? have always wondered about that one. Depending on who you are with in the organisation depends on your belief in that "transform" the world. When I started on staff I did so to "transform" the world. Alot of staff do that. The higher up you are the more I believe that
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Quoteany idea of how much art gets paid. he werners brother and hes the head attorney and ceo or cio of landmark. All staff salaries are kept confidential, I only knew what some people were getting paid because we talked about it after we resigned. Art Schrieber is Head Legal Counsel I imagine he earns a lot. Art is not werners brother, Harry Rosenberg is Werners brother and harry is CE
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Landmark Forum leaders are paid staff along with a very small proportion of the people who work in the office. The office staff are virtually paid minimum wage for what ever country they are in. Communication course leaders are paid Landmark Seminar leaders (such as landmark Forum in action seminar and other 10 week seminars) are led by people who are not paid by Landmark. They voluntee
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Patrick-darcy is right, Landmark start at the introduction. By beginning to put in new definitions into your vocabularly. The introductions are all the same everyone follows the same format. The introductions are designed to get you to think about the "negative areas" of your life and then once you have these clearly in your mind they will spend the rest of the night focussing o
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Hi Oz, Although I have only been here a short time your input has been invaluable. I wish you all the best in your future endevours. Sonnie-Dee
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QuoteThis sounds so much like scientology that it makes me wonder if Landmarkers have "gone back to ~source~ " to make sure they have control over people. Even the jargon is the same; i.e. calling it "out integrity That is scary. Landmark pushes the "we are not religous". Until I came to this site I didn't even know the links it had with scientology. If I had kno
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You are right Glam, Landmark has lots of interpretations of one word and this leads to a lot of confusion and eventually guilt because someone is thinking of the wrong one. I guess if you take the definition of "if its right for you you are in integrity" then someone would never be out of integrity... dang wish I had this definition earlier would have loved to shove that one up
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JF Wrote QuoteI think some people on here are taking the anti-Landmark thing a bit too seriously. From my experience only good has come of it People take this seriously because we have seen the negative impact that Landmark is having on peoples lives. Family split up because a couple divorce or break up. Friendships lost because landmarkians often become so focussed that anything or anyo
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Hi Glam, The person who defined integrity to you has not got the landmark definition at all. "Integrity is being your word. doing what you said you would do at the time you said you would do it. It is also obeying the law" All staff and senior landmark leaders have integrity files where we had to "clean up" out integrity. This was a tedious nasty event that was pus
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QuoteI thought it was "wrong" for them to get other Landmark people to do business with them? Something to do with integrity? This only applies to people in leadership, it does not apply to most participants. however if this person is doing ILP then yes it would be considered an integrity issue.
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Acid the ILP read and memorise questions, the introduction (this is a 15 page single spaced A4 document, they read all the letters from pcychologists, mininsters, etc, they read any newspaper articals (the positive ones about landmark) QuoteParticipants in ILP commit to a six month training programme with four weekend courses with other ILP groups in their country/region and weekly classrooms
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Glam, if you friend is doing the ILP (Introduction Leaders Programme) his life is either totally consumed by landmark or is about to be. Participants in ILP commit to a six month training programme with four weekend courses with other ILP groups in their country/region and weekly classrooms. The classrooms are usually 4 to 5 hours long they also must assist around the centre once a week
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