Quotesistersoap You give others the third degree for their claims they "can't prove" so come clean yourself. Sistersoap To Sister: I am clean. I don't give people a hard time because they can't prove something unless they are lying and can't prove it. Basically, the times I give people the third degree is when they try to present "false positive"
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QuotezeebrookI am with you Sistersoap on Truthtesty's less that honest responses. Why is it important about the false impression you make Truthtesty is because in your post of November 8, 2007 you proclaimed "I am an expert in the truth" yet you deliberately obscure it here. Truthtesty: What less that honest post? What? Also? Now it's important just because I said it? Well
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QuotetruthseekI had a look at the forum today as I had not logged in for a while. I hadn't heard about the Sodini murders. I don't live in America. I don't think the murders made the main newspapers here. Sodini's statement "you can commit mass murder and still go to heaven" really hilights a very big misunderstanding of how salvation works. Yes, salvation is
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To z: I do not believe that you are not a thiemite. I think you are following thiemite based defense "you can't prove physical scars, so Thieme is innocent" in your fictitious opining. That is the reason you tried to control and restrict the conversation to just "scientific proveable evidence" and explains your complaint and your desired restriction (pretending your no
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truthsetsufree quote: "I believe that he is/was sincere but was caught up with his intelligence, accomplishments, and power. This is a common problem for all leaders, pastors are no exception and unfortunately more common than should be, sad but true. All the more to remind us to keep our love, devotion and desire for Christ. This experience woke me up and taught me a lot about myself. I hav
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Sister: What difference does it make what role I plyed? The dissertation is available world wide and Dr. Wall wrote it. It is easily available to anyone worldwide witha cick of a mouse. Why can't you just be happy with that? I told you I did not want to go into detail yet? You do not respect that. Truthtesty
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To the Forum: I agree that it is correct to speak out against a totalitarian government that does not respect the will or voice of "we the people", and In addition does not have OVERSIGHT. We the people is us the American people. Thieme attacked communism but that was really mute in self assured destruction. Many a corporate crony and corrupt defense contractor took advatage of taxpa
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Dear sister: Now it is easily found with a search engine. You click and Dr. Wall's dissertation is available "without cost", as a counter to Thieme's "without cost". Lambrusco is a mellow wine. Truthtesty
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Dear sister: it is good to hear from you again. If you do not believe me go find and original "in paperback" copy of Dr. Wall's dissertation. Compare all of that "journey" to today when today you can merely "click" and read. You may not like me, but it is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Peace sister, Truthtesty
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To sister: I mentioned Dr. Wall's dissertation to this forum many times. In this case, I say that Dr. Wall mentioned both pro and con info on Thieme and I still presented the link to Dr. Wall's entire dissertation. This was to show prebound that my judgement was not skewed to only anti Thieme info. Truthtesty
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To the Forum: When I say Thieme was never "right" about anything, except violent propaganda verbal speak, here is what I mean and what people should check for. Dr. Wall: Thieme's approach, beyond his lack of biblical evidence, is in the use of the word right. To label something or someone "right" implies that all others are wrong. It adds an unwarranted moral di
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prebound: truthtesty quote: If you are as careless with information as you have demonstrated, it is highly likely that you like others have missed many of Thieme's "doctrinal" errors. prebound: I admit that's possible. It's also possible you're so full of vinegar that you missed some things he was right about. And this is not to say that I disagree with SisterSo
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To the Forum: One could say Thieme was about as Christian as Sodini. There never was a spiritual need to agree with Thieme about anything. There never was a need to submit to his corrupt authority for spiritual maturity. QuotezeebrookThanks Prebound for your post. Whilst disagreeing with a number of the teachings of R.B. Thieme Jr he was still a christian brother who served the Lord and
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To prebound: If you are as careless with information as you have demonstrated, it is highly likely that you like others have missed many of Thieme's "doctrinal" errors. Truthtesty
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To prebound: Pardon me if you are not a thiemite. You delivered false thiemite information. No deals. Not bitter. Since you are so sensitive about being called a thiemite perhaps you should be more careful and actually check information for accuracy before you post with your name. Truthtesty
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To zeebrook: zeebrook: Rather a long bow to draw that the Thieme cult carries "the violent psychotic potential of the Manson cult". Truthtesty: I have no idea what a "long bow" is but if you mean it is illogical to draw a comparison between the potential violence of the two cults, then I completely disagree. I from own experience have seen thiemites lose control violentl
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Hello Sister: I am not convinced Thieme's "integrity of -od" did not cause this. Sodini said he was trying a new approach because he had chickened out last time. Is that not insane enough to feel it was "eternally ok" to commit mass murder of 3 innocent women and wounding 9 then committing suicide? Sodini definitely got the "eternally ok" idea from Thieme eve
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To zeebrook: I am not going to keep going in circles with you on this. I asked why you did not question and you dodged why you didn't. The reason that I asked was because you did not ask orange for information that he could "prove". Ok? Youi have a relaxed standard for yourself for proof but then? For me? You would try to restrict my speech altogether unless I have proveable ev
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To the Forum: Once again we have thiemites enter this forum with false information. Prebound quote "Because of the nature of his assigned duties he received rapid promotion and by the end of the war had attained the rank of lieutenant colonel" This is hyped-up false information Thieme did not attain the rank of Lt. Colonel until AFTER WWII was over. Thieme's highest rank
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To the Forum: Sodini blog diary quote: "December 31, 2008: My anger and rage is largely gone since I began lifting weights. Lifting drains me but I still have energy. Somebody else suggested running but that did not help me. I guess strenuous exercise is necesary for a man. So I just learned that now at 48. Maybe 30 years later than I would have liked. My dad never (not once) talked to me
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To Tet20: Pardon me if I am extremely skeptical of what you said. Would you care to offer proof of what you just said? Also what is Knapps position of "right pastor". As far as I know Thieme never showed any regret whatsoever for Right man Right woman. I understand they quit publishing the booklet. As a matter of fact I never heard of Thieme admitting he had made a mistake ever.
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To Tet20: If you are patient I will show you the truth I speak of. On this page I proved some time ago that Jesus said he had finished the work in John 17:4 BEFORE John 19:30 of which your church Tetelestai was named: "... Remember Jesus was also a Prophet. Luke 24:19 "And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, The things concerning Jesus the Nazarene, who wa
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To the Forum: I apologize I made a mistake. I am not afraid of apologizing because I don't have a verbally violent political propaganda agenda to sell. Last post I stated "How could Thieme speak about something he did have?" I apologize for this falsehood. It was an accidental mistake. I should have written "How could Thieme speak about something he did NOT have?" When
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QuoteFreedomandLifeMy God, I had no idea of the connection. You're right, most definitely disturbed before. Yet I wonder, as you yourself have experienced, how the oppressive environment of a doctrinal church, doctrine of privacy, emotions put on perpetual hold, exacerbated this man's sense of isolation and alienation, not merely from women but ultimately from reality. It has the
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To the Forum: I think Sodini was somewhat close to figuring out what his problem was. He just could not bring it to the surface. You can see within moments of stating There is something BLATANTLY wrong with me that NO goddam person will tell me what it is. what pops up? "Rick Knapp stuff". Sodini quote: "I guess some of us were simply meant to walk a lonely path. I have slep
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Tet20: To Truthtesty: I am new to this forum, but felt compelled to respond to your accusations against Thieme and Tetelestai Church, of which I have been a member for 20 years. I have read your statements and wonder if you were from a household where there was abuse. Your bitterness and resentment seem to go much further than Thieme and his ordained pastors under him. Truthtesty: If I had be
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zeebrook: Thank you Orange for your comments. Truthtesty, you seem in your rantings to be incredibly vindictive, emotionally wrought etc etc. Truthtesty: hah lol wow etc...etc...? Vindictive? Emotionally wrought? How subjective and judgmental can you be? Etc... Etc...? What logically objective person describes someone else as etc... etc...? Unless it is you who have a false preconceived notio
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Sister: Orange's post on Aug. 7th appears to be the 1st Sodini posting. Truthtesty
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To the families of the victims of the Sodini massacre. My condolences for your loss. When you have finished greiving, my suggestion to you is to get a lawyer and sue R. B. Thieme jr's ministries as well as Tetalestai's ministries for knowingly teaching a false teaching which a Doctor of Theology (Dr. Wall ) wrote of the teachings of Thieme which cause Schizophrenia. And that Thieme&#
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To kc: I am empathetic and completely understanding of your situation. It is quite an ordeal at times when you love someone who is a thiemite and you see them being completely insensitive due to following Thieme's false teachings. In this case Thieme taught a false prioritization of a teacher above your family. Bible doctrine does not support this Thieme doctrine. Truthtesty
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