Dr. Wall's critique of Thieme false doctrine of right pastor Dr. Wall QuoteAuthoritative attitude. Rooted both in Thieme's personality and background and in his doctrine of right pastor, Thieme comes across as a highly authoritative person who will not allow any interruption or distraction in his Bible class.31 His teaching provides a sense of security to his hearers as he extends
Forum: Destructive Churches

Quote: Truthtesty stated Quote“How do you explain Thieme's lifelong obvious prejudice against other Christian pastors trying to admonish Thieme to the truth of the bible?” Galiban replied Quote I do not have to! Ok You missed the point. You did exactly as I thought you would, you avoided answering the question and ran off into scripture after scripture. Truthtesty stated QuoteNow
Forum: Destructive Churches

Galiban posted QuoteUp to this point I have avoided directly discussing anything with you due to your obviously dubious motives and lack of insight. Galiban posted Quote"A rational arguement is pointless" Dubious 1 : giving rise to uncertainty: as a : of doubtful promise or outcome <a dubious plan> b : questionable or suspect as to true nature or quality <t
Forum: Destructive Churches

Galiban, Answer this How do you explain Thieme's lifelong obvious predjudice against other christian pastors trying to admonish Thieme to the truth of the bible? The entire Dallas Theological Seminary(where Thieme earned his masters) tried to reach Thieme. Doctors of Theology from across America reached out to try to help Thieme. But Thieme was steadfastly prejudiced in his own view. T
Forum: Destructive Churches

Galiban Another quote of mine which you conveniently bypassed and choose not to rebutt QuotePosted: 02-25-2007 10:38 AM Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If Thieme cannot be trusted to explain fully the word OBJECTIVE in English, then he should NOT be trusted to explain fully foreign words in another language.
Forum: Destructive Churches

To Galiban & Genez: Read the foreward of Dr. Wall's dissertation by Dr. John F Walvoord President of Dallas theological Seminary QuoteA balanced and fair evaluation of the extensive teachings of Robert Thieme has been overdue. The writer of this volume has achieved a balance between proper recognition of the good qualities of the teaching ministry of Colonel Robert B. Thieme
Forum: Destructive Churches

Let's go Galiban bring it on 2 Corinthians 3:12 doesn't say glory or great boldness. 12 Having, then, such hope, we use much freedom of speech, 13 and not as Moses, who was putting a vail upon his own face, for the sons of Israel not stedfastly to look to the end of that which is being made useless, 14 but their minds were hardened, for unto this day the same vail at the reading
Forum: Destructive Churches

Genez By the way your quite the little chicken aren't you? At least I have the guts to own up. Your 1st reaction at being caught doing something wrong was QuoteI do not know what that is from. Since you do not give the forum and post? I have no idea. Do a search. There is more than one GeneZ, out there. If you refuse to give a link? I have no idea what that's about. I have no idea if
Forum: Destructive Churches

Genez You mean Thieme has no means. If your going to judge me, then judge Thieme too. Truthtesty
Forum: Destructive Churches

BEING PREDJUDICED IS BEING SUBJECTIVE. BEING PREDJUDICED IS ALSO JUDGING OTHERS. TRUTHTESTY
Forum: Destructive Churches

Per Dr. Wall's Doctoral dissertation from Dallas Theological Seminary Quote21 For example, Thieme's personal prejudices against blacks (described as “melanoderms”) and Chicanos comes out dogmatically in his teaching. Note magnetic tape reproductions of messages preached at Berachah Church: "Philippians 4:4," 22 February 1976; "Genesis 14:10," 21 September 1976; &
Forum: Destructive Churches

Critique - Per Dr. Wall's Doctoral dissertation from Dallas Theological Seminary One's first reaction to this extremely complex analysis of the maturity process is that it is totally absurd, and that Thieme must not be serious -- but apparently he is serious. After making some observations about the difference between human wisdom and divine wisdom and about the significance of the ter
Forum: Destructive Churches

If Thieme cannot be trusted to explain fully the word OBJECTIVE in English, then he should NOT be trusted to explain fully foreign words in another language. Truthtesty
Forum: Destructive Churches

Per Galiban and Thieme QuoteThus God either conceals or reveals depending on whether one is open (subjective or objective) I have a whole lot to say about this, but for now, even if the Galiban's stated arguement is assumed, Thieme's view of "objectivity" is skewed. If you look at the definition of objective (Merriam-Webster) 3 a : expressing or dealing with facts
Forum: Destructive Churches

Galiban, I assume your talking to me about being a false teacher. I am far from legalistic. Judgemental viewpoint? My viewpoint is I am sick and tired of christians murdering christians. I am sick and tired of the unhealthy falsehoods within christinaity. I could just as easily slap labels on you, but I am interested in intelligent conversation. Does God only use people in a certain perfect
Forum: Destructive Churches

QuoteNow, if you're talking about doctrinal authority, that's another issue. And I do believe this should rest with one head pastor, and that's the position Thieme took. The example is set by Paul. It was Paul who braced Peter in Galatians, it was Paul who wrote the Corinthians and put them back into line when the church began to divide. The churches where Paul was set up as head p
Forum: Destructive Churches

Oh my my. Did Galiban just get body slammed? lol!! whoa! I told ya! I told ya! God bless the internet! I have been telling you pople for years that Thieme was false. So I tell you what you do now Ephesians, Genez, and Galiban, it is your obligation if you have any character at all, go tell other Thiemites that Thieme is false. Thieme is being debunked. Thieme being taken apart piece by piece. Thi
Forum: Destructive Churches

Ephesians stated: You say that you never said you were a Christian, yet you have posted comments such as: QuoteThat is unhealthy for the body of Jesus. Debates would have allowed the biblical truth of Jesus to reign, not Thieme Jesus went all the way to hell and defeated it but it would just be too much of a risk to allow other christian theologians to speak in church? The bible s
Forum: Destructive Churches

Truthtesty states: What I think everyone should note is how Genez bypasses Dr. Wall's critique on Thieme's false cult doctrine of right pastor. Bunnymouth, I didn't notice you attacking Dr. Wall. As a matter of fact you went completely around Dr. Wall. Notice that Genez has not responded to Dr. Wall's critique of Thieme's cult doctrine of right pastor. (because it's
Forum: Destructive Churches

Regardless of what you think of me, Dr. Wall is christian and graduated with a DOCTORATE from Dallas Theological Seminary. (not just a masters like Thieme). Perhaps we will discuss my motivation later, I assure you it is not evil. Right now though I challenge Genez to finish it. If she chooses not to(which is her choice), be reminded that this is where the argument ends until the end of ti
Forum: Destructive Churches

QuoteGenez stated: My intent was to take some of the reasons given to make RBT ministries out to be a cult, and to show it has nothing to do with what a cult really does. If anything. Its teachings are a reversal of what cults do. Well Genez here are some of the reasons, "show us it has nothing to do with what a cult really does". (I have more) Per Dr. Wall's dissertation:
Forum: Destructive Churches

I am here for the truth. I notice that Genez has not responded to Dr. Wall's critique of Thieme's cult doctrine of right pastor. (because it's untenable) Genez has made statements: I find this interesting how the word cult is used so freely. Got a gripe against some ministry? Its a cult. Oh well. So much for the ire of man. Even so? What has this got to do with being
Forum: Destructive Churches

However, I do see some truth. I see Happy, Spiritual, and Orange as being honest and straightforward. Truthtesty
Forum: Destructive Churches

Ephesians Your such the little coward. How was your vacation? Only to pop out when you think you have the advantage. Who ever said I was christian? I am searching for the Truth, but I certainly don't see it here. I don't see it in Thieme's cult. I don't see it in Gee. I don't see it in you. Is this what christianity is all about? Is this how christians treat people?
Forum: Destructive Churches

G You live in a dream world. I never saw your post last night. So I didn't fail as you falsely accuse me and I have nothing to hide. I see nothing desireable about you or whatever you have done with christianity. Enough about your worthless spewings. I can see you have a 1 track brain and Everready bunny mouth. What I think everyone should note is how Genez bypasses Dr. Wall&#
Forum: Destructive Churches

What Gene doesn't realize is that even extremely intelligent people can be involved in a cult and not even know it. Apparently, Stan was a "hoodwinked" cult follower of Thieme as well. per Genez's statement on another forum: "It was Professor Stan Ashby. Professor of Ancient Languages, Harvard (retired). He kept pointing me to Thieme after I mentioned some messages I h
Forum: Destructive Churches

G Truthtesty states: As a matter of fact Thieme's enforcement of rules "was one of the things that won" you over to Theime. You "never looked back" Genez posted to another forum: "...So? When I heard Thieme's ground rules? I liked them. I agreed with them. If someone did not like it, he always suggested that they find a church where that sort of thing was
Forum: Destructive Churches

Truthtesty states: Flaming? me no, but it looks like you should know better. It looks like as long as things are going your way you have no problems with rules. You only have problems with rules when your not getting what you want. Oh an how you "look forward to emplemenation" of rules. Genez posted to another forum: GeneZ 10-25-2004 04:03 PM ----------------------------------
Forum: Destructive Churches

There is a lot of work to be done on Genez. I don't have time but just to get started Happy stated and Genez Quoted: I think people blindly follow him. Genez stated: Yes! Some do. Genez stated: But does that make him a cult? Genez stated: They would have followed someone else blindly because that is what they are as people! Thieme used to do things to chase these kinds off.
Forum: Destructive Churches

Genez does not understand what a cult is. No one in a cult believes they are in a cult. Genez, if you want to get dusted properly, why don't you try to say something about my posts on this website. You'll lose. Thieme was/is a cult leader. Berachah is a cult. What's the matter you can't handle people speaking the truth about how they think and feel about Thieme? Why ar
Forum: Destructive Churches