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11 years ago
The Anticult
Everyone needs to publicize that psychopathic filth by Neale Donald Walsh. On top of their psychopathic bullshit, guys like Neale Donald Walsh don't apply their bullshit to themselves. They are just mainly lining their own pockets with "donations". On a deeper level, clearly these guys like Neale Donald Walsh are trying to absolve themselves of their own GUILT for scamming p
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
These psychopaths selling the fake Law Of Attraction rationalize rape, crime, cancer, the Holocaust, genocide, mass starvation, earthquakes, fire, and anything else you can think of. Byron Katie: Nazi's burning Jewish babies was the work of "God"
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Misty
I must confess that I haven't actually seen Byron Katie take someone back to childhood abuse in front of the TV cameras and was responding to what I read somewhere above. (I stopped watching her on the internet because what I was seeing made me feel very uncomfortable). But what I have seen her do is (a) get the person to open up and become vulnerable and then (b) turn it around so that thei
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
Misty
Hello, I'm new. I browsed though the posts here, but can't find the ones I wanted to reply to in this long string of posts, so will just address the issues one by one. I came across "The Work" of Byron Katie through a young relative of mine, who seems to have been helped. So I dismissed her as just another "New Age Flaky." But when I read one of the posts abo
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
corboy
Go see the film Kumare False Prophet by Vikram Gandhi. VG was concerned about the yoga guru craze. As an experiment he decided to impersonate an Indian guru, named himself Kumare. He got a following. Worried about the effects on his followers, he revealed this had all been an impersonation. Some continued to believe in him. The one person who was enraged and refused to forgive him
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
Its a very good point that coming out of a cult is not a mental illness...which makes sense. That is correct about the CBT/exposure, they have been shown to actually work for many people, in real studies. But as far as I know, there has been no studies of application to those coming out of cults at all. And below that are some excellent points that hopefully many people will read. What
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
billy77
Surely the idea should be to change how we feel about something but without necessarily changing what we think. Have a negative judgement about something but feel powerful and not sick in the stomach. What Katie is trying to do is peculiar. I see that she is trying to help people "suffer" less, but in this way? Particularly this business with this woman and her father. Katie thinks t
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
newfuture
Check out this video of Byron Katie in which she tries to convince this woman that racism is pretty much all in her head, and then tries to convince the same woman that her father was a good father, and the woman made up her feelings about him being a bad father - Just terrible stuff that has NO basis in reality whatsoever. I can't imagine what kind of psychological mess the woman who was su
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
billy77
Im not sure how she thinks "The Work" can help people. I mean ok, she suffered, had some experience, but it doesn't mean you can save people with some half-baked ideas and some strict parent approach. Particularly this idea that you created the whole business of your incest or abuse or whatever. To me this is repugnant how she is saying this. It's just horseshit. It's lik
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
corboy
Before participation, are you required to sign a release of liability form in which you sign away your citizen/resident alien rights to sue or mediate for damages in case you incur harm as a result of participating in that weekend? Here are examples of release of liability forms, used by other LGATs. Does Mankind project have any form resembing this? If you signed such a form, you may feel
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
question lady
Steve Salerno has started a series on Byron Katie:
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
corboy
What disappears in this total availability of the past to its subsequent retroactive rewriting is not the hard facts, but the Real of the traumatic encounter whose structuring role in the subject's psychic economy forever resists its symbolic rewriting. The author of this essay critiqued John Gray. And the author makes it clear he is a Marxist/materialist and disagrees with the Pope
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
good enough
Just found out about this: QuoteJoin world famous author and spiritual teacher Eckhart Tolle for his first live Hangout on Air event on Saturday, July 21st at 1pm PST / 4pm EST. Eckhart will interact and answer questions live from preselected individuals during this unique event. I'm thinking it's safe to assume the preselected individuals will be loyal fans who aren't out
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
There is always one amazing coincidence of these sects...their leaders earn many millions of dollars each year in personal income through their private "spiritual" corporations, and they don't pay any tax, and their families are all living high on the hog, off your money and labor. Byron Katie is running very sophisticated methods, as outline in the other threads. SGI-USA is m
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
The Anticult
Its interesting, in many other sects and groups, like Byron Katie, etc, those who break away seem to have always had doubts and kept something in reserve. Example, as part of her process of Identity-fusion with her followers, Byron Katie demands they give her their wedding rings. Yep, Byron Katie takes the wedding rings of her female followers at her seminars. (and they don't get them back.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
The Anticult
You see how SGI and other sects and groups (like Byron Katie) deliberately target people who are vulnerable and desperate.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
Hitch
QuoteThe AnticultJust to go back to this SGI "story" about giving SGI all of your emergency savings. Its found at the links below. Contribution and “Fighting Daimoku” That posted "story" is a persuasion process. Its not a true story, is a written story that is designed to persuade people and modify their behavior and beliefs. Its very obvious how they do it. SGI
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
Samwise Gamgee
The Sharon Gans group, sometimes known as "The Work" (no relation to Byron Katie's group by the same name), and "Odyssey Study Group", is still active in NYC. They are currently engaged in suing former members who have dared to post information about the group on a blog. They are also active in Boston.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
luckychrm
I'm not sure what the copyright laws are for pasting text from an online forum with attribution, so moderators, please remove/edit this post if I have violated the user agreement. I read the user agreement in full and did not find copying and pasting addressed. The following are two blog articles posted in May, 2012 regarding an in-person attendance at a The Work seminar facilitated by Byr
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Hitch
QuoteThe AnticultOneness of Master and Disciple....that is a BRAINWASHING TECHNIQUE. What "oneness" means in the SGI context, is that the target (you) are supposed to wipe your brain clear, and then slavishly and mindlessly follow the Master. You believe everything he tells you, you replace your beliefs with his beliefs, and you make your mind "one" with his, or that is wh
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
The Anticult
Oneness of Master and Disciple....that is a BRAINWASHING TECHNIQUE. What "oneness" means in the SGI context, is that the target (you) are supposed to wipe your brain clear, and then slavishly and mindlessly follow the Master. You believe everything he tells you, you replace your beliefs with his beliefs, and you make your mind "one" with his, or that is what you are suppos
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
Rav
Hi iam Rav from India I have not read the entire thread yet from past 4 days I have been reading iam on page number 89 now :) . I just thought I must post a biggggggggg thanx to Rick Ross , anti cult, corboy, helpme2 time, sOlea13 and all others for their contributions on this thread . So far whatever I read I learned so much maybe more then whatever self help books I have read so far in my li
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
and I am not making fun of anyone...anyone involved in any sort of modern cult believes some version of this. New Thought used to say it was the power of the Christ Consciousness...now they say its Quantum Physics, as that sounds more acceptable. These abstract concepts become a catch-all for "then a miracle happens". In reality, its mainly the Confirmation Bias, if one really tri
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
corboy
?? Studies of Inquiry Based Stress Reduction" - another term for 'The Work'
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
luckychrm
Both Fabrice Nye, who conducted the Palo Alto study in 2011, and Shahar Lev Ari, who directed at least two of the three Isaeli studies, are Certified Facilitators of The Work.
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse
11 years ago
luckychrm
(emphasis mine) The work of Byron Katie: The effect of applying principles of inquiry on the reduction of perceived stress by Nye, Fabrice Ange, Ph.D., Institute of Transpersonal Psychology, 2011, 129 pages; AAT 3474459 Abstract (Summary) Stress has been associated with a variety of chronic and acute conditions and with higher use of health care services. This study examines the effects
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse
11 years ago
luckychrm
Israeli hospital, teacher team up to reduce cancer-induced stress High-school teacher Sandra Yosef-Hassidim joins Tel Aviv's Ichilov Hospital to employ Byron Katie's 'The Work' technique in a cutting-edge study. By Alona Ferber | Feb.19, 2012 | 5:33 AM The labor strikes that so often cripple the country may create unwelcome stress for many Israelis, but for Sandra Y
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse
12 years ago
luckychrm
On June 4, 2010, Anil Coumar, Director of Student Mental Health at the University of Washington, presented the following training: "Inquiry Based Stress Reduction: A Practical Approach to Mindful Living A workshp for mental health professionals-six CE hours Inquiry Based Stress Recuction (IBSR) is a new therapy approach useful with individual clients, couples or in group therapy setti
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse
12 years ago
luckychrm
On June 16, 2011, the following question was posted at AskMetaFilter by the user xarnop: (excerpts presented here for brevity) "Am I right to be concerned about "The Work", created by Byron Katie, being used it real therapy? How do I diminish the toll of three years of therapy that definately wasn't right for me?" "I experienced severe PTSD after a traumatic a
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse
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