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13 years ago
luckychrm
Both Fabrice Nye, who conducted the Palo Alto study in 2011, and Shahar Lev Ari, who directed at least two of the three Isaeli studies, are Certified Facilitators of The Work.
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse
13 years ago
luckychrm
(emphasis mine) The work of Byron Katie: The effect of applying principles of inquiry on the reduction of perceived stress by Nye, Fabrice Ange, Ph.D., Institute of Transpersonal Psychology, 2011, 129 pages; AAT 3474459 Abstract (Summary) Stress has been associated with a variety of chronic and acute conditions and with higher use of health care services. This study examines the effects
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse
13 years ago
luckychrm
Israeli hospital, teacher team up to reduce cancer-induced stress High-school teacher Sandra Yosef-Hassidim joins Tel Aviv's Ichilov Hospital to employ Byron Katie's 'The Work' technique in a cutting-edge study. By Alona Ferber | Feb.19, 2012 | 5:33 AM The labor strikes that so often cripple the country may create unwelcome stress for many Israelis, but for Sandra Y
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse
13 years ago
luckychrm
On June 4, 2010, Anil Coumar, Director of Student Mental Health at the University of Washington, presented the following training: "Inquiry Based Stress Reduction: A Practical Approach to Mindful Living A workshp for mental health professionals-six CE hours Inquiry Based Stress Recuction (IBSR) is a new therapy approach useful with individual clients, couples or in group therapy setti
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse
13 years ago
luckychrm
On June 16, 2011, the following question was posted at AskMetaFilter by the user xarnop: (excerpts presented here for brevity) "Am I right to be concerned about "The Work", created by Byron Katie, being used it real therapy? How do I diminish the toll of three years of therapy that definately wasn't right for me?" "I experienced severe PTSD after a traumatic a
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse
13 years ago
good enough
QuoteIf anyone has the nerve to suggest that I am 'getting worked up' or 'obsessed' or am 'hating on' Tolle, I have solid reason to write as I do. -- corboy One of the reasons I keep coming back to the RR site is because so few people seem to realize or admit that the emperor is naked. Being around people who buy into this doggy doo is annoying and sometimes it fee
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
This is a page full of classic older posts on this topic. In case anyone is new to the front page and is visiting, here is a bit to read. Goodie bags, red roses.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
It was shown previously, how the supposed big gift by SGI to SGI-UK, was a big sham. You announce this big fake gift of $40 million, but all the money is totally controlled by HQ in Japan. Soka Gakkai International -- SGI-UK Charity Number 1104491 Its like someone saying, ok Hitch, here is a gift of 40 million bucks! Alert the media. So...we'll keep the 40 million in our own inve
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
13 years ago
corboy
If anyone has the nerve to suggest that I am 'getting worked up' or 'obsessed' or am 'hating on' Tolle, I have solid reason to write as I do. Tolle and Byron Katie and these other 'sudden enlightement' types are making vast sums of money and establishing business empires. Where do they come from? Whats the process of creating these tycoons? T
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
Ironic that one visitor has reported that Eckart Tolle is among the list of 'pranic' books. We have a huge thread about ET and Byron Katie here. They are classic, commercial gurus. And there has been a lot discussed about the precise methods of their public appearances and workshops. Their stuff is hugely popular. So eliminating their stuff would be a test of obedience and
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
Soldiers, sailors and Air Force personnel swear away their lives when they take the oath. But..at least in the civilized countries, the military provides health care for its personnel, both in service and in retirement, and offers support for families and in event of death, a widower's or widow's pension. One fills out an insurance application. There is also a Uniform Code of
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
www.thework.com/school-staff-jobpref.php Its not enough to work for free for Byron Katie, you are told to bring and use your own private property in the BKI private business, and use your cell phones, iPhones, macs, MacBooks, cars, etc. What about the minimum wage labor laws? What about using other people's equipment in a private business? But never mind that, as seen in the BKI r
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
Byron Katie a tycoon in the .05% pretending she is the 99% Its the pretending that is sinful. And if you dont pay them and get them to work as volunteers there are additional advantages No need to follow state safety regulations No need for health insurance No need to hire somone to oversee payroll and to report earnings to the IRS or Social Security Unpaid labor is yet another
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
SGI gets people to work for free. Many other sects do the same. Byron Katie makes millions, yet has figured out how to persuade others to work for her Corporation for free, doing jobs that should be paid.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
13 years ago
The Anticult
Byron Katie is a multimillionaire, and BKI makes millions a month, certainly. They are a private for-profit corporation, owned and operated by Byron Katie and her husband, and it appears a few others. Below are the job descriptions for the Byron Katie "school staff". Again, these "Staff" are unpaid labor. Notice that each of these "jobs" are paid jobs in any fi
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
Meateater
Thank you, that did the job! Quote
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
Yes, this is a huge thread with lots of good research, mixed with off-topic stuff, and some flaming, etc! But lots of good material in the thread. That text might be available offline on request from the author? also, try searching for the keywords in Google.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
QuoteShavoy How the heck can you "understand Sensei's heart"?? Be his "arms and legs"? "Chant to be Sensei's disciple", "Chant to fulfill Sensei's expectations of you".... Cleary those are techniques taken from mysticism...in the sense of becoming "One" with the object of worship or God, in this case the fake Godman Ikeda. Bu
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
13 years ago
luckychrm
Here is an article from September 2011 at Study – Grow – Know, a Christianity based blog authored by Th.D. Fred DeRuvo: DeRuvo's analysis of the nonsensical nature of Byron Katie's self-promulgating quotation archive is likely 101 for most readers here at Rick Ross, but it always feels to me like a port in a storm to come across published criticism of Byron Katie and The Work. I
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
not important
I don't see anywhere on here that actually just lets you "POST" a message so I'll just write here. What's up with that anyways? I have found so many of these groups out of my desperation to find healing. I will believe anything for a while. One man in another post about Byron Katie said that his body was smarter than his mind and so after a while I knew this was just
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
13 years ago
corboy
??One way to disable the horror disgust response: Lemme tell us what might happen if, literally we lost the moon. The rhythm of life, of circadian light/dark cycles, the ocean tides, would all be gone. We do NOT want to 'lose the moon' for our planet would be messed up. In some cases, one must lose revulsion in order to function more effectively in certain specialized p
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
Disgust may be linked to 'cringe factor' 'ickiness' and dismay. According to the NY Times article, the disgust pathways can be located in the amygdala region in the brain. That which is merely unfamiliar or strange may be different from disgust. In any case, watch OUT for anyone or anything trying to normalize what to you elicits disgust, creepiness, or dismay. I
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
This is not official. Just my private, non professional, citizens hunch: One criterion we might investigate which identifies if its cult or potentially abusive relationship: Be very alert if someone tries to undermine disgust towards events in history that ARE disgusting, such as the Shoah/Holocaust, Hitler, Stalin's socially engineered famines, any notion that some groups deserve to
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
Trust Your Disgust Cockroach Story Power--the Manipulation of Evolutionary Emotion Hello dear readers. How often have you loitered around the New Age, Dharma Lite, Human Potential scene, felt disgust, expressed disgust (even if only by frowning) and were scolded for being "judgemental"? How often have you been urged to ingore your disgust as "bourgeois" "unev
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
Sorry to tell you this but this was never therapy. As soon as this person became a LEC lackey, she ceased to be a therapist. Her credential and skills learned in clinical program are now in service to the Landmark Borg. A true therapist honors the dignity of the counselee and has the counselees ultimate interest at --not Landmark. Two, you can bet that someone in Landmark reads this
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
good enough
I read his first book and yes, Walsch is a creepy little huckster. When I was still foolishly receiving his emails I couldn't believe how expensive his seminars where or how sickly sweet he was whilst promoting Byron Katie (someone else to avoid!). As for the passage about Hitler, I'm coming across similar nasty revisionist crap amongst others in the New Age circuit. These people sho
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes
13 years ago
walter1963
My bad, it was "Transformations". Robbin's study of Hitler, Mussolini and various TV evangelicals was well known when I attended my first NLP seminar in '95. All the old time trainers and hangers on knew about Robbins and his power trip. I even have a audio tape from Grinder chiding Robbins(but not using his name, but for insiders, they knew who he was talking about). I
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
Some good resources here Quote: In the early 1980s I also saw a short film of excerpts from one of Rajneesh's talks, and was able to see first-hand his hypnotically slow, coy, seductive, and provocative manner of speech and body language, with his strange way of hissing the "s" sounds at the end of many of his words. and Quote: Osho defrauded some of the most beautiful a
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
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