Allalong, this would be a great thread topic - soft cults. I am very sorry to say that though 12 Step groups are not supposed to be cults (The 12 Traditions were developed as a way to prevent this sort of thing), the set up is readily exploitable by power-trippers. Sexual predators who hunt at 12 Step meetings are nicknamed 13th Steppers and new persons should be warned that these people
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Applying “The Work” of Byron Katie to the Pandemic by Matthew Remski
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Wow. I just heard about "LGAT" & "Human Potential Movement" and realized I got sucked into similar groups several times. They are extraordinarily dangerous, and most 'leaders' are likely narcissists, psychopaths, and the like. AKA, they love to victim blame the real victims. Its all the same. They have a leader that is extremely charismatic and manipulativ
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Is there a place for me to discuss this? I was in two cultish groups that met most of the criteria for a cult, and most of the criteria for being run by a cult leader. The only things I didn't experience was sexual and physical abuse in one cult. And the other cult that did me the most harm, I also didn't experience financial abuse. But these two cultish groups did me a lot of h
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Gravru123 wrote: QuoteBTW, don't let anyone try to use Byron Katie's ideas to help you because they are abusive. I wish you the best in your healing. Never give up--there is a lot out there to help us. Ruth Ten years ago, several persons discussed Byron Katie and her methods on this message board. One participant, The Anticult taught us how to identify Katie's techniqu
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Hi Heather, I was in SRF from 1979 to 1990 but the abuse I suffered because of it seems very minor compared to yours. I am trying to not be in despair because of the disillusionment. A book is coming to me which may help: "The Second Half of the Mountain" by McCall Erickson. BTW, don't let anyone try to use Byron Katie's ideas to help you because they are abusive. I wish you
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Years back, The Anticult told us how commercial guru Byron Katie's PR portraits were created. See if any of this ties in w what we are discussing on this thread. There's an old saying that clothes make the man. Today, the video director (aided by photographers) create the guru. When to time a smile, what to edit/omit from a video (Angry gestures, sweat stains under the
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Check out the thread: Byron Katie (the Work) and Eckhart Tolle Legit?? Be Scofield wrote another excellent article exposing a spiritual fraud. She wrote a balanced report. This is thorough and comprehensive report. Be's article: What I find interesting is how so many of these fraudulent "teachers" use reverse psycho babble, NLP, mumbo jumbo to control people. Isabell
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Byron Katie: “Because if it hurts, it's your thinking that's hurting you.” Byron Katie: “Everyone is a mirror image of yourself—your own thinking coming back at you.” Byron Katie: “Hurt feelings or discomfort of any kind cannot be caused by another person. No one outside you can hurt you. That’s not possible. Only when you believe a story about them can you be hurt. So you’re
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I read the Be Scofield article. Bravo Be Scofield!
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Here is a link to the 75 page document written by Byron Katie's former employee 'Janaki'. This is the document mentioned in in the article by Be Scofield shared above. It is well worth a read.
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Domination Byron Katie a Case Study by Matthew Remski
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A new article by journalist Be Scofield October 24 2019 A Critique of Byron Katie's Work
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AS REQUESTED The Moderator of this site gave two strong requests yesterday that if people wanted to talk about Be Scofield, then please devote a topic to her. Don't use the "James Swartz -- What Is The Truth?" topic for another purpose, was the message. Okay. Here's the topic. When I started the James Swartz topic I'd researched this criminal fraud for over two
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Be Scofield has been doing one helluva job exposing the dark side of the guru business/Enlightement Industry. Which would piss off a lot of people. Anything that smears Be Scofield needs careful investigation -- all of us would want that if anyone were to do the same to us. When discussing how Moo influences people, many of us found it very helpful to read analyses of conversational tr
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Warnings Received and Heard -- Thank You First, many thanks to Valma, Sahara71, and Corboy for the above posts. Perhaps I should have been more clear. As of this moment, I've made no decision regarding Be Scofield as related to the rape charges or the "Hostile Sociopath" diagnosis. I've also called her "rant" sent to the Culture or Cult folks "alle
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Thanks, Sahara71, for checking the Culture or Cult website more closely. Now, as you know, the big question is, assuming that the founder(s) of this website are really after Be Scofield as a primary, or actual sole, "target," is what he/she/they have to say accurate? Is/are he/she/they correct in what they write about Be Scofield, or not? --Is Be Scofield guilty of, as a male,
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Be Scofield has announced that in November 2019 she will release a book titled Toxic Spirituality: Abuse, Denial and Delusion in New Age Culture. The chapter list is at QuoteByron Katie & The Work Mooji Abraham Hicks & The Law of Attraction Teal Swan Marianne Williamson & A Course In Miracles Eckhart Tolle John of God Agama Yoga & Tantric Abuse Scandals Mindfulness
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Holy Mother Mary!!! That is just freaking scary, luckychrmm. I can just imagine the poor little school kids who may actually be subject to real abuse (as statistically, child abuse is a very common fact) being taught to say to themselves "I feel really unsafe, but that is only a thought." What is the world coming to? I despair.
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The education integration looks to be in full swing "Using The Work of Byron Katie, we work with teachers and schools to question fixed-mindset thinking, and to build vibrant, open-minded, socially and emotionally literate learning environments. With a foundation in The Work, TTPI works with students, educators and communities to develop an awareness of thought. Students explore the
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After listening to the On Belief podcast on LGATs today I took a stroll through google search to see how things have been shaking out lately for Byron Katie and The Work. A few critical pieces have been able to stand online for several years without vanishing into the ether as many early blogposts concerned with Byron Katie's programs and history did. That gave me hope that perhaps less
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Oy. What he's a very naughty boy has written is in line with what I've seen in various 12 Step rooms. * It violates the 12 Traditions to proselytize within the rooms for anything or anyone outside of conference approved literature. This was to prevent meetings and vulnerable persons being preyed on. But this will not stop guru recruiters. One gal used Alanon meetings to recr
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corboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Err...CEI has a vast discussion of Byron > Katie. > > > She changed her story a number of times before > coming up with the > instant enlightement story focusing on the > cockroach. > > The Anticult, who supplied many, many analyses of > conversational trance induction > met
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Err...CEI has a vast discussion of Byron Katie. Though the focus of this thread is on Moo, it is important to understand that becoming a Big Name Spiritual Teacher is no accident. It is not God's Grace. It is Mammon. To become a Big Name Spiritual Teacher you are operate in a very mercenary context. To remain a Big Name Spiritual Teacher and not get drowned out by marketing from
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I did a little comparison exercice between 2 modern spiritual teachers, Mooji and Byron Katie: 1) Both have built up a big business and worldwide network "family" on the enlightenment market with help of modern technology. 2) Both have based their teaching method on their own individual awakening experience and teach a "new" kind of method: the Work for Byron Katie, the
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An example of one of The Anticult's posts. He gives Tony Robbins, Byron Katie and many others a good caning, all over this forum. Unfortunately, I think he is on the money. The Anticult Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Very good advice to immediately and permanently > stop any communication with anyone who practices > overt NLP-Hypnosis for pr
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Friends, here is a contrast with where we were in 1987 - one of the songs that was in our culture. 1987. People were dying of AIDS in public, in First World countries. The crack epidemic began in the 1980s, destroying entire communities, spiritually and psychologically hitting hardest at poor people, especially people of color. With no internet, no cell phones, thousands of peop
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I advise a bit of caution. Many trance operators lose their power over us once we learn about the commonly used techniques of hypnosis. However, I encountered one person who still affected me even after I learned that he was a skilled trance technician. I will tell that story later. On this page, Sahara71 wrote: QuoteAlonzo and Happytown, I watched the staring eyes video of Shri Moo
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David Deida Adi Da (Adi Da was an infamous cult leader who disrupted marriages and used women disciples for his gratification) QuoteI was so sure that TNT was not a cult. First of all, what I had heard about cults was that people attempted suicide together or gave all their money away. This was an open school and you could come and go as you like. Far away from what I had read in the medi
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Thanks Corboy, I really need to do a lot more reading on hypnosis. I read the link at the bottom of your post, all about Byron Katie. It is so fascinating. Unfortunately, the link to the woman's blog that The Anticult posted no longer works, as that blog is now "privacy protected" or whatever. I wonder why? Anyway, it seems like, from what The Anticult posted, that this
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