By the way, in terms of the advanced hypnosis, ask Stever Robbins about it, he knows all about it. That's right Stever, he knows what its all about, Stever knows EXACTLY what Byron Katie does, he knows precisely what James Ray does, and all the rest of them. All they think about is their own payday, and too bad for the collateral damage, like peoples minds getting crushed. Also, the Sle
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The local stage hypnotist is not connected with the deeper forms of advanced hypnosis. Much of stage "hypnotism" is simply direct suggestion, they find people who want to act up for laughs for their friends. Its a comedy show. But at the end of an intense LGAT seminar, when the hypnotist like James Ray starts mumbling, and raving, that is something else altogether. Its a technique.
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hello "sushigrl" and others. Its very important to see the direct comments from those who have been in SGI since childhood. One can see the first hand evidence going back decades, how Ikeda has used his extreme influence techniques within family groups and on young children. For example, if Ikeda is going to NAME a child, that again sets up a powerful Identity control (Ikeda hop
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SGI strikes again. They are trying to use GUILT as leverage to get more free money "donations". Ingratitude is redefined as not giving SGI enough money in appreciation, the WORST thing you could ever do to Ikeda and SGI. For Ikeda, he probably does see ingratitude and "disloyalty" as the worst thing you could do to him, as that is disobedience to the commands of the Master
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It could be some of those people are running the mass "influence" operations in the USA. Of course, the SGI "religion" in the USA, is 100% secretive, and SGI conceals all of their operations. This has been shown and proven in this thread. They refuse to publish any proper documents to show where their assets are, and what is going on with the donations. Its all secret and
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Thanks for this information. It shows how carefully and strategically SGI operates on the minds of those in the USA. SGI-USA have chosen the term "Mentor" as that is a politically correct term in the west, as opposed to "Guru" or Master. And the term "disciple" does what SGI wants it to do, and its an acceptable term in the USA with deep meaning, as its in the bibl
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Cross-reference the information in these threads about Byron Katie, with chapters from the book Cults In Our Midst by Dr. Margaret Singer. The Work/Byron Katie-strong concerns Byron Katie and "The Work" Participant Reports Everyone should own a copy of Cults In Our Midst, which anyone can get now for a few bucks. Its all there. Chapter 6 Physiological Persuasion Techniques
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The information in these threads actually gives even more detailed information than is included in those chapters in Cults In Our Midst. Byron Katie Byron Katie and "The Work" Participant Reports But everyone should own a copy of Cults In Our Midst, which anyone can get now for a few bucks. Its all there. Chapter 6 Physiological Persuasion Techniques (meditation, diet, hyp
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And of course James Arthur Ray has the standard LGAT seminar company businesses structure, he copied from others. Byron Katie does the same thing. In order to "work" for James Ray, you literally have to take every single course he offers, which costs a fortune. So he makes a fortune, and gets to completely indoctrinate/brainwash you at the same time. Then after all of that, if y
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It appears that the same Trellis House that was run by Marc Beneteau who posted in this very forum has been shut down by the authorites His wife Rebekah Beneteau is mentioned in the article. Here is Marc Beneteau running his Victor Baranco apologetics and deceptive tactics. Notice how Marc Beneteau was directly identified for what he was doing, and challenged right here in this for
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Here a little more about how the advanced NLP persuasion people think. James Arthur Ray has studied their methods very carefully. Richard Bandler's partner is John La Valle, who is also co-author of the book Persuasion Engineering. The advertising material out there by John La Valle is really disgusting, frankly. He uses a lot of deliberate Confusion and embedded suggestions about "
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A new report here about Byron Katie. "I watched this woman take an educated psychotherapist who had been severely abused, tied to a bed and beaten at age 5 do a turn around where she assumed responsibility for what had happened. At one point she said to Katie....."Lady you are fucked up in the head", that was the healthy part of her, it did not last long. Katie new just how to
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A new report about Byron Katie here: _________QUOTE______________________ I am a LCSW. I majored in psychology and graduated summa cum laude, phi beta kappa I am also a certified Feng Shui Master having studied under the top Feng Shui master in the world. I am no stranger to sprituality nor to psychology. I attended a workshop for professional CEU's at Kripalu in September of this ye
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Owen Fitzpatrick is doing far more than the public can perceive, except those who are trained in this area. His entire page is loaded with material, top to bottom. With guys like this, there are always at least 2 levels of communication going on at once. The basic text, and then everything else. Often the basic text is the misdirection, even though it may convey some general information. The
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There was an interesting video experiment. Its the 3rd link on the link below, called the "basketball video". Give it a try, by reading the instructions, and pressing the link on this page called "View the basketball video" (after viewing) This experiment has shown that when people's attention is focussed on one aspect of a situation, they can be completely u
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That book Conversations with Richard Bandler linked below, is something else. Please do NOT buy it, maybe your library has it, but be very careful. The book is written by Owen Fitzpatrick, who is someone who is extremely skilled in these advanced techniques of persuasion, and has a ton of programs for sale. James Arthur Ray does some of these techniques, but in a pretty crude way. Byron Kat
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Actually, have to profoundly disagree about so-called "life coaching". The advice about getting a "coach" is correct, from the clients side. The "standard" practice for "life coaching" is set by coaches trying to make a buck. Never pay in advance, with no refunds. That is absurd. Never sign any kind of contract. Ever. That also applies to career coun
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For those interested, here are a couple links about how Byron Katie PERMANENTLY receives as "Gifts" people's valuable jewellery, wedding rings, laptops, airline tickets... at her 9 day LGAT seminar called The School For The Work. Obviously, its just a way to extract more free money, and a deeper psychological attachment to the Guru. There are a bunch of other posts in the Byro
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It looks like the "throwing others under the bus to save your own skin" has begun. Amayra Hamilton, who owns Angel Valley with her husband, is pointing the finger at James Ray and his company for the water deprivation. The same thing could easily happen to Megan Fredrickson, Director of Operations for James Ray, when they start blaming Megan Fredrickson, as she was the "
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Cassandra Yorgey has updated more information from the worksheet from the James Ray seminar. This appears the be the new text. QUOTE: “of loss of loved ones; during which you were betrayed, betrayed yourself, or you betrayed someone else; your most meaningful relationships, issues or behaviors related to things you wish to hide from others, where life promises were made; times, experiences,
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The link 2 posts above appears to be a direct link to the PDF of the archived blog about Janaki and Byron Katie. So a person could access the PDF either through a direct download, or an email request. Has anyone checked if the text is pretty much the same as the blog, or has it been updated? Its unfortunate for readers that the blog was taken offline, as all of the direct links to the blo
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There is an alleged worksheet from the James Ray death lodge event. ______________alleged worksheet quote________________________ Worksheet title: "Opening Black Bags: Hooks, Holes, and Damns" Events: During which your sexual vision was created or modified (e.g. opinions of what is right and wrong, good and bad)” “Of sexual experiences, during which you resigned or lost somet
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James Ray has a new PR company, and thus a new PR approach. And again he is trying to put the blame for the so-called sweat lodge on whoever allegedly built and designed it. Of course that is sheer nonsense. Anyone can see when you cover an extremely over-heated tent with a close to air-tight seal, very damaging things are going to happen to dehydrated humans inside. That is not going to wash
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And of course, the main people who are doing some form of conversational hypnosis storytelling, aren't telling anyone they are doing it. Of course, if one asks them at a seminar on the mic, or in the media about their methods of group trance induction, hypnosis, and suggestion, they will immediately counteract with a denial. Like...HYPNOSIS!!! I am de-hypnotizing people from the cultural
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Unforunately, you'd have to read a large chunk of the Byron Katie thread to get a sense of what was said about how the Milton Erickson material fits into this. Dr. Erickson was great, as I have said in that thread many times, he probably was a genius, a real one. He was also a licensed MD and hypnotherapist. Erickson would be outraged by these crooks running around and trying to screw with
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Again, lots of good points in the post by "buffman". Its certainly an error to project James Rays "intent" as being something positive for people at large. That is his salespitch, he is mainly in it for his own Ego and mansion, Rolex, cars, Ego... Of course, every LGAT Guru is surrounded by brown-nosers trying to get his/her approval, so they tell the Guru what he wants
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The dangers and damages of the LGAT seminars run by PSI Seminars are explored in detail in other threads as well. PSI Seminars and what Happened to me PSI Seminars: Legal Action? PSI seminars waiver James Ray International: Waiver of Liability,Assumption of Risk, Indemnity Agreement and Disclaimer BY SIGNING THIS AGREEMENT YOU ARE WAIVING ALL RIGHTS TO COMPENSATION IN CASE
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Good point about the James Ray Dream Team. There has been so much happening there has not been time to analyze each component of the James Ray structure. But the "volunteer" James Ray Dream Team, is directly copied from the other major LGAT companies. The LGAT guru finds the most persuadable and suggestible people in his group, and then uses his techniques to literally reform their
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some links from James Arthur Ray Mass head shaving pics @ Spiritual Warrior '07 Intense James Arthur Ray job description for Sales Person/"Certified Harmonic Wealth® Coach" NO Salary-Just Commission James Arthur Ray's 1996 website: James Arthur Ray's website archive - alpha index of links from 1996 - Online archive of James Arthur Ray's we
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Unfortunately, even family members of some victims have called James Arthur Ray a "motivational speaker", when he IS NOT. That is his cover, that is the illusion. That is like saying Bernie Madoff is a financial advisor. These LGAT guru's are not motivational speakers, mere authors, spiritual teachers, spiritual gurus or anything like that. They are world class experts in the
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