Heythere1010101 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Also i tried contacting 3 different people from > sahaja 3 different times with no response. > At private ashram meetings things got very weird > too, mooji would start to pit one thing against > another until people were defending him and the > ashram. But even the satsangs were a bit odd a
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Heythere1010101, Just wondering if this is the guy who gave you weird domineering vibes while you were alone with him- the one seated on the left in the first photo of Moo?
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Hi Heythere1010101, Welcome to the discussion. I guess there is a question I'd like to ask you- Do you think that the way you live now, being basically unable to work, sleeping on someone else's couch and feeling like you can't think rationally or make decisions- is a result of your time with Mooji? Or is there some possibility that other factors are involved? Because you
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Alonzo and Happytown, I watched the staring eyes video of Shri Moojijiji Baba Poo, and I survived unharmed! I think that once you know the methods and aims of trance material such as this, it doesn't effect you anymore? I just thought that Moo looked silly- his eyes were not appealing at all and the whole thing seemed pointless and boring. I don't know if other people have th
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Hello again Whim, I wanted to share these links with you. Firstly, a BBC documentary film where hypnosis is explained in depth: And then there is this very interesting article: The author does say that a type of indirect hypnosis can be used on people without their consent (they have no idea that they are being hypnotized) and that this is skill is dangerous, if it ends up
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Hi Whim, you might like to read this post which I wrote a few months back which explains trance induction: Sahara71 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > It's interesting that you question the "Invitation > to Freedom" video presentation which has become > the centrepiece of the online Moo show. > > I went back a
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Hi Whim, To answer your question, of course I was upset after realising that I had been hypnotised over the Internet by Moo. It was hard, because most people who I told my experiences to, thought that my story was very far-fetched and that I was over-reacting. So I have mainly kept quiet about my experiences and done all my own research online... This has led to 100 plus hours of reading a
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That is interesting, Horowitz. You have done some extensive study on this. The way Moo described his enlightenment experience (such as it was) sounded more like a depersonalisation experience to me. Some kind of psychological glitch. His body merged with his environment or something. Weird. Then he claims to have experienced an overwhelming love for his master, Papaji. If he felt such love
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Horowitz, yes, I agree. When you embrace your spirituality, you become more of who you truly are, and it is a good thing. You don't just throw away your "person". There is nothing wrong with being a person. The spirit expresses itself in the material realm as a person. Getting in touch with your true self is in a way a casting off of the ego identity but it is not a denial
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Constantin, That is very interesting. You paint a picture of an ashram plunged into secrecy, where no-one seems to really know what is going on! Moo seems to be manipulated by those who are in the know. It seems really sad and pointless... I don't know what the purpose of trying to run a charity like this is? Anyone who has any information gets expelled from the group. Why aren't
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Hi Horowitz, I agree with you in that some of the things Moo teaches are not bad in themselves. I think self-inquiry can be a useful tool. I also think the teachings of Advaita and Buddhism are very interesting and helpful. But it's the way Moo puts it all together that is wrong and misleading! He encourages people to flee from the real world into a type of 'self worship' tha
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Hi Constantin, Thank you for the information regarding the letters Moo receives. It sounds like he receives multiple death threats and multiple complaints of abuse! Well, the death threats are just plain wrong, I probably don't need to say so... it is against the law to threaten someone. I want to ask you about the complaints of abuse against Moo? How regularly would there be a let
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Thank you Abdias824, For your insights. Please feel free to keep posting and inform others about what Mooji and his followers are up to. People have a right to know about all this. People really need to know what is going on at Monte Sahaja, so as they can avoid getting involved with this cult. I think I was lucky to have had some spontaneous spiritual experiences when I was young. Then whe
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SadGame, I just hope it doesn't happen to too many more people. But I think Mooji's following is actually growing. People need to be aware of the dangers of this kind of thing. They need to know how these people operate. Thought-reform techniques really do work. Otherwise, cults couldn't continue to exist and there wouldn't be so many of them in operation- around 3,000
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happytown Wrote: > > A double bind contains four basic features: > > 1.You must do A. > 2.You must do B. > 3.B is the opposite of A. > 4.You cannot discuss this contradiction. > > For example: > 1. You must come out of your egoic mind and > surrender to God in order to be happy. > 2. You must accept that your mind will never > willingly surre
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SadGame, I think what you are saying is that the Moo group are a cult, but not a destructive cult? Any adverse effects people experience from this group are unfortunate, but because there was no evil intent from Moo or his inner circle, then it's excusable? I'm not so sure I can agree with that. I think people have to be accountable. Leaders of religious groups (who very intent
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Thank you Corboy, I totally agree with the following statement: > >" Unfortunately, Mooji teaches Neo-Advaita, which is > a half-baked interpretation of nonduality that > essentially devalues worldly life in gross and > subtle ways. This position leads naturally to a > common psychological pathology known as “spiritual > bypassing,” wherein one employs the p
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That's very interesting, Horowitz, I wonder if Khrishnabai owns the apartment or if she is only advertising it for a friend? If the profits from a rental property are going through Mooji Media Ltd, then they would have to be very small amounts. They are already listing over £700,000 as sales from "media and products" which looks like it comes from selling retreats and intensi
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Thanks Alonso, What you describe makes perfect sense. I could not see how these properties were connected to the Moo Foundation on paper. If you don't mind, can you tell us a bit more about your time at Monte Sahaja? Thank you.
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Hi Horowitz, Thanks for all the info on the Moo Foundation's real estate business. I can't quite work out where they are listing all the income from rent on these properties? I suppose the rent collected could be tax free, since they are a registered charity and housing people in order for them to attend Satsung would presumably come under the heading of 'benefitting their
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I yam what i yam, Being hypnotised over the Internet by a cult, without your consent, is not the same kind of thing as watching 'Saturday Night Live' and realising that you wasted your time with something that was meaningless. It is a different scenario. One is entertainment that failed to entertain. The other is an exploitative cult that breaks down people's identitie
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Wombat, The points I made in my previous post were for the benefit of i yam what i yam, who was worried about me getting into dangerous territory regarding defamation laws. Xivoparig claimed Moo was a rapist and a fraud, so if anyone is going to be sued for defamation, it's most likely going to be Xivoparig. All I said was that the Moo Foundation seem to get a bit creative with their a
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Good on you, Horowitz, I think the use of trance induction in Mooji's "The Invitation" should also be included. Using trance induction on people without their consent could hardly be in the public interest.
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i yam what i yam, I think it's OK because I am not a blogger, nor am I acting with malice. I am just a concerned citizen worried about cult activity. If Rick Ross has any problem with what I write, then he is free to delete my comments from this forum. I would not take any offence. Startingover called Moo a 'bastard'. Constantin said he ran a cult and had an unusual in
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It's interesting that the UK. Charity Commission announced that it is investigating another religious group that call themselves a 'charity'- the investigation was announced yesterday. You can read about it here: (a lot of the concern revolves around how this group handled their money. Note that the Moo Foundation also issues some very creative accounting records!) It&
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Horowitz, thanks for sharing that article. Reading the whole thing, you can see how Advaita teachings could be abused and used to try and 'trick' people into thinking that they had had some kind of awakening experience. It's good to see that there is a distinction made between real, lived reality and a kind of "spiritual reality". It's really a big mistake to u
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If you look at the official paperwork of the Moo Foundation, you will see an interesting discrepancy in the year 2017. In 2015, funds raised by "retreats and intensives" is listed as around £980,000 (which is what we would expect) In 2016, again funds raised from "retreats and intensives" is listed at £890,700. In 2017, however this figure unexpectedly plummets to onl
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On paper at least, they seem to donate the entirity of their profits back into the so-called charity. Then the charity can shunt the money over to the ashram, in the form of a grant. It looks like the who business operates as one tax-free entity, maintained by free labor.
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Hi Horowitz, Take a look at this link: It explains the rules guiding the use of trading subsidiaries to reduce the amount of tax a charity pays. In this case, the 'charity' is the Moo Foundation and the 'trading subsidiary' is Mooji Media LTD. Using the 'beneficiaries' of your charity as employees is one way of getting a tax exemption. For this purpo
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Good point Happytown. Moo could control the board of trustees from behind the scenes. I had a feeling that he wasn't clever enough to oversee absolutely everything, but who knows?
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