QuoteapostateYes Xenophone you are in the right forum, but like yourself I also find the humor Malcolm is displaying at the moment distasteful and as such I do not support what is being said. Malcolm is one individual and does not represent the entire forum, although I am sure that will matter little to Dave who will no doubt use such humor to bolster his paranoia. Yeah, I just feel like Dave
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QuoteMalcolm Wesley WREST Lets put an end to it.... (...however before we all get our hopes up too high about "untraceable poisons"....I have to say I don't think they would be powerful enough to work.....what might perhaps do the trick are silver bullets blessed by a priest or cutting the head off and impaling a stake through the heart (...but...then what heart??...and now
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Hello, all is well, just not been posting much. 8)
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I don't find Josh suspicious. It's obvious that he has a bias towards the JCs, but that is natural IMO. It doesn't mean that he's made up his mind.
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Hi everyone. Dave made a response on his forum, to a post that I made on this forum about gimmicks. In it I use old emails from Dave in an effort to show how contradictory he is of himself. I'll post it below if anyone is interested. --Xenophone. QuoteDaveJust updating people on what is happening on the RR forum...James has given a lengthy summary (not very accurate in places, but fai
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QuotehelloHi- I don't know why my last post wasn't put up- is there some kind of error? I agree with Xenophone- there is no autonomy in the community. Keeping seperate financial records is one thing- psychological free thought is quite another. As my last post wasn't put up- I just want to congratulate everyone who left. I am really grateful this thread exists. :D Hello, hello.
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QuoteFranFor starters, as you all know well by now (but conveniently ignore), the JCs are split up into various autonomous teams, which are spread over several countries and several locations even within the same country. So who is going to stop anyone from surfing the net? Seriously! You guys are truly amazing. Hi Fran, I find it troubling that you, or any other JC, still thinks that you ar
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QuoteGladitzoverQuoteFrom what I can tell the members of the Jesus Christians seem quite happy where they're at and quite excited about the work they're doing. As a JC member, I only ONCE spoke to another member about how I really felt about the group. I admitted that i sometimes felt like leaving...the other person said that they often did too. It was a rare moment of honesty. The
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QuotematildaUnfinished post there! Does anyone have any info about : Refugee issue and article mentioned by DM Assualt on British policeman mentioned by DM trespass and an Angleton Jail? (Not sure if this is connected?) The first two don't ring a bell, but I was there while Dave was in Angleton. We were giving out free copies of Armageddon for Beginners out to people who
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QuoteDave MckayCraig, of course, would almost certainly know about the public apology I posted a few years ago; but once again, I know that in my dealings with him I am going to be damned if I do and damned if I don't at every fork in the road. Here is the public apology link, which appears under "recent articles" on the web site: This might be a bit of a tangent, but Dave
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Zeuszor, I've noticed that the last 15 or so posts have been from you, and no one else has posted. Perhaps you should "reel it in" a bit, don't you think?
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QuoteapostateNo scare mongering happening here Xenophone, so no need to be so defensive of a group that is obviously a cult. As I cannot upload the article in question I will cut and paste it below as evidence, so please excuse its length, but you know Dave... he loves to talk, especially when it is about himself. It is entitled "Divine Authority". I have highlighted the relevant par
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QuotezeuszorFirst of all, I never said that the Army is a cult, I said it is cult-like, and that a lot of the same dynamics of control are in place between that type of training and cult training. If you disagree wit hme, spend a few years in the Army and then try and tell me that. Second, if being treated for major depression and anxiety, if being in a shrink's care, being diagnosed with
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QuotezeuszorFirst of all, I never said that the Army is a cult, I said it is cult-like, and that a lot of the same dynamics of control are in place between that type of training and cult training. If you disagree wit hme, spend a few years in the Army and then try and tell me that. Second, if being treated for major depression and anxiety, if being in a shrink's care, being diagnosed with
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Quoteapostate No scare mongering happening here Xenophone, so no need to be so defensive of a group that is obviously a cult. As I cannot upload the article in question I will cut and paste it below as evidence, so please excuse its length, but you know Dave... he loves to talk, especially when it is about himself. It is entitled "Divine Authority". I have highlighted the relevant pa
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QuotezeuszorI stand exhorted, brother. You gotta understand, for one thing I got out of the Army about nine months ago, with alomost a year in Iraq, and shortly after release found myself in cult not so dissimilar to the JCs. Look at the Trinity Foundation of Dallas TX board. You are right: I do have a lot of anger and other emotional issues that I am working through right now, but if I didn&#
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QuoteapostateDrats I wish I got to this site earlier. Interesting to see the "co-founder" of the Jesus Christians referring to himself as "co" something! I guess you have become more laxed Dave, and given some credit to someone else. One wonders who! Maybe you are being accepting of your wife's role in things these days. Good on you if you are. I always remember
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QuotezeuszorXenophone, write me, man. Let's catch up. Sorry, but I'd rather not. I really don't have much to say. I've been reading a bit on what you've been posting on the site, and you it seems like you have a lot of hatred in you. I understand you have disagreements with people, but aren't you able to express them without name-calling?
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QuotezeuszorHey Xenophone, spills the beans, man: what are the "private teachings"? The secret Jesus Christian handshakes? :lol: As for so called "secret handshakes" amongst the JCs, there really aren't many, but I have noticed at least one. This was one that I used to do with another JC there, so I know it exists. How it works is two JCs would meet in a public/p
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QuotezeuszorThe Reserved Articles sections state that "We are not trying to be secretive, but we are trying to get people to read the most important articles (those that are freely available) first." Well, my Bible is freely available, so shouldn't any and all Bible studies be so too? That kind of secrecy makes you look real, real suspicious. Come on, you know it's true. Hey
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QuoteDave McKayQuoteAlthough I think that xenophone was stupid to have fallen for the trick that Rick uses on every 'apologist' (i.e. to get them to publicise disagreements, so that Rick can add those disagreements to his file of 'complaints'), I must compliment xenophone for having at least given rational reasons for disagreeing with the JCs. Quote So much of what others ha
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QuotemuppetQuoteXenophoneBoth my wife and I are ex-JCs. We have been out of the group for about 6 months now. I am now a member of a "main-stream" Christian church, but I was a member for five years and can say confidently that I've never seen any sexual misconduct. Reports about that guy having his pants taken off him in the night just sound so off the mark. If the JCs are one
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Quoterrmoderatorxenophone said: QuoteThere are a number of things that I completely disagree with the Jesus Christians on, but I won't get into them now. Would you please get into that now? What are the things that you completely disagree with? I can try. I disagree with the JC attitude toward society. They call it "The System", and IMO they are too paranoid with how th
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Both my wife and I are ex-JCs. We have been out of the group for about 6 months now. I am now a member of a "main-stream" Christian church, but I was a member for five years and can say confidently that I've never seen any sexual misconduct. Reports about that guy having his pants taken off him in the night just sound so off the mark. If the JCs are one thing, then they're
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Quotemuppetjust to say there is also another thread on this group here at this message board and it might be an idea to copy the original post there. They claim again and again that they are not in any way related to the Family but the Berg influence surfaces again and again. Berg believed in corporal punishment and was extremely racist. Thank you for making this public. I Hi, this is my
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