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9 years ago
Agur
I don't think people are "worried" about what Dave McKay is doing to his forum...it's simply curious and bizarre much like the whippings and the Anita Foster scandal.....he's only making a colossal fool of himself and it's pathetic as it's like he truly believes if he deletes scandalous posts he made and if he removes entire threads where people were libeled and
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
Hi all Quoting: I'm not sure if there is a Christian bias on this forum. There might be individuals who are Christian but I don't know if the forum actually promotes Christianity. I personally haven't encountered it, but I haven't read everything on the forum. I'm Catholic and a Christian. I have not encountered any problem on this forum for anyone. People might t
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
I'm delighted they dropped "Jesus" from their name as they rarely spoke of Him anyway and were most un Christlike so the name Jesus Christians didn't fit them anyway. Tribulation???? PERFECT!!! Trials, Troubles and Tribulations- Suits perfectly and is exactly what a potential could expect to find on the forum and if they joined up. Keepers???? I would say "Losers&qu
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
Stoic That was a very well worded post. You said:By all means expose these conmen and frauds within the limits that the law allows--in order to educate others of the potential dangers--but do not stoop to the level of the conman by assuming that you have the right to be sole judge jury and executioner over others, even 'bad guys' behaviour. A vigilante has crossed the line from reas
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
I'm sick of anyone saying Kevin defends Dave. Kevin has continued to speak out against lies and against Dave's verbals on people. Kevin has more self control than I do and he doesn't get all personal and lash into Dave as others maybe, as I have done but no one will ever tell me that Kevin McKay has failed in any way to stand up to any of the serious situations like the whipping of
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
It's interesting all that you say Apollo. I think the suggestion of how Sue could have handled the mushy food is very very good. She had a unique opportunity to really show Christian love and compassion while visiting that family yet instead she chose to be combative and to isolate herself outside in the miserable cold away from the family and doing nothing productive....just complaining. Ha
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
BLIMEY!!!!! "the vessel of our consecrated essences............." ????????????????????????????????????? Sorry but that entire write up needs explaining to me. Considering the huge focus on w@nking and all....this sounds like some vial destined for some second rate sperm donation clinc......I know people sell blood and body organs but oh man....I don't like the visual
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
You explained that perfectly Apollo. I was suggesting a FAQ type of fact sheet with easy to find highlights just to save people trying to go thru 475 pages of discussion. My intention was to help. I regret mentioning it. I'm sorry about the improper mentioning of first names, I thought it was obvious who people are and I've been addressed by my name and didn't mind so didn'
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
You really are the little archeologist at times yourself, zeusie old boy. No need to “miss” Dave too much it seems. ;) No Brian *SIGH*-I was pretty careful NOT to use the term "dossier" because I didn’t want to start up old issues that cause bad feelings. Dossier defined by Wikipedia-A dossier is typically a briefing paper based on an individual of interest in police or inte
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
Thank you for explaining things RR Mod. :) As for Glenn, I feel as though people are stating and discussing their experiences with the jc's that involve Glenn and he has been a very vocal supporter of McKay going out of his way to pubically voice support of the jc's so I can't see why he objects to his own words being reprinted here. If he is back on the fence, that's news
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
Could I ask the RR mod a question please? Can Kevin McKay visit and post on this site? It seems he is having trouble accessing the site and since he has not ever been banned, this seemed odd. I thought it might be some glitch that could be looked at. Thank you.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
I didn't know Glenn was so close to them either.....wonder what has kept him from joining up except that deep down he KNOWS that it would be a life of misery at some point. I don't have any idea why he wants to be Dave's patsy but I guess it's the old needing affirmation thing. As Malcolm pointed out yesterday there are a multitude of legitimate groups and communities that wou
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
Zeuszor I am sure you don't mean to offend and be hurtful to Cait but it doesn't seem right to pull up old comments. They can be read out of context and of course, what someone says when a hurt is fresh or raw, might not be the same exact terms they would use years later when time as healed them or when God have moved them to forgive. If we could stay in the present that would be aweso
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
Mal I wish you could have those years back too but what I focus on with you and the other ex members is that you all joined with good intentions and you all had the guts to do whatever it took to leave. That couldn't have been easy to up and start your lives over especially when I know the state Dave left some people in. From much of what I hear, Dave was less of an a$$ then and there was mo
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
Apollo I hear you....it's bloody hard not to look just to sit back and be thankful that YOU don't actually come into contact with anyone like that too often. Can you imagine how her own family feels when she has entire pages devoted to blabbing their most personal and private business? Of course THEY are her enemies too and THEY VICTIMISED the poor gentle soul....*laugh* This is h
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
Very well explained and aptly expressed Mal. The jc site being down is going to cause some of the poor lost souls that haunted it, to look for "help" elsewhere. Almost perfect victims in many ways as what you say is so true, they need affirmation....we all look for that but most of us get that in our personal lives through work, church, family, friends etc but not everyone has those re
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
It's duct tape with writing on it. I can make out the first 2 numbers............. 6.................. 6............. and then I think it says--------- 3.5.....? Weird. Always a bridesmaid never a bride I guess. OH JOKING JOKING..... Its some stunt of his to show his solidarity to the jc's......they stuck barcodes on their heads at some point or something.....to make a statement abou
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
Both forums have their good points and people can post in both or just one as they please. There shouldn't be anger at anyone as a result. To give into bickering only pleases Dave McKay who loves to talk about "infighting" between the forums and I don't really see that as much as just different ways of expressing thoughts. To some people, I am annoying with my long posts, to o
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
Yes I agree Mal. I believe Dave McKay IS suffering. He makes it very hard to be compassionate towards him because he consistently spits in anyone's face who shows caring. He ridicules them as fakes and then seems to go out of his way to assault them in ways that make it impossible to "love" him or at least it makes a person reticant to express it and in the heat of the moment one f
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
The more I think about the fact that there is only one person's word for this disbanding and we all know what a liar she is and how deluded she is and how she would LOVE to pretend she is important to McKay and helping him somehow.....it could well just be some stunt of McKay's. If so, what a weirdo as though he thinks somehow this "hurts" people.....it only makes him look des
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
Oh good to read your post Mal....I can understand what you said about each time people are faced with supportive friends and family they must relive things...yes I can see why reinventing yourself and discovering your own personality would be a great way to go. I also agree that most people joined with high ideals and that they can switch to another cause that might help them feel like they ar
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
I'm not a "credible professional" zeusie....I'm an incredible cookie maker.....;) Don't be a nitpicker. Anyway sorry no offense made with my term. I thought it was the term used. Think I might have heard the jc's use it anyway sorry I meant no offense. Oh the "You was" was an error, I was cutting and pasting some posts I wanted to save from the jc si
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
Malcolm I think you have said a mouthful in your post. Interesting Cait that you mention some posts are disappearing....why on earth would those innocent introduction ones be any of concern???? Good heavens....we need Agatha Christie. I am just very hesitant to bank on any announcement made by little rose because we all know what a fool she is and how she gets things so twisted and muddled....
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
Mal said:hence David engineers a "tribulation crisis"....the JC's simply go underground(cease the most public of their activities) , and pretend that they are disbanding, .... David uses the time to focus on reconsolidating his "legitimacy".....with the membership EVEN MORE isolated from any external contact that might give them cause to question McKay. They will then
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
Sorry about my post above...I was somewhat disgusted and angry that this "person" has created her own blog to assault people but in the large scheme of things, she matters not. She is known for what she is...disturbed. I'm sure she will engage in new "wars" soon. My thoughts have been with the Jesus Christians if the cult has disbanded truly which I believe. It will be
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
Just looked at nutters blog---unbelievable. It's somewhat hilarious as she tries to reassure people that she isn't the crazy Dennise Matteau making insane posts all over the internet...no....she is just a sweet little old lady in Texas and someone has stolen her identity however she at once launches into all her usual tirades about gibberish. It's so obvious it's all the same
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
Amazing.....I wouldn't believe Dave McKay would fake this even to dump little rose.....I mean I would....but he wouldn't like to have his failure broadcast like this.....wow......I can't say I am the least bit sorry....I am just amazed that Dave MIGHT have seen sense and packed it in. lol.....poor little rose....she will only have eBay and Tupperware to fight now....lolololol.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
Apollo I'm not sure of this....could you tell me where you read this? I do not think McKay would knowingly welcome a pervert but I guess I would like to think no one would risk children and young people...... Knowing the date of when this is alleged to have happened would help know who was maybe a member during the same time period....undoubtedly someone has left who might be able to a
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
Let's not squabble among ourselves, men, for fear we start looking like the McKayforum with nitpicking and witching at each other....now that their forum has closed we don't want to be as Dave McKay was with David Berg---copycats! It's enough that I am starting to believe McKay has morphed himself and has rejoined his forum in the guise of little rose (check for 5 o'clock shad
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
Agur
Of course there is talk among the ranks and much disagreement I expect with their numbers dropping off as they are. I assume cult members are asking questions and wondering who is going to pick up the slack on book sales and kidneys? I would also assume some decent members who are really Christians might object to certain people being coached by McKay to add his sage-like ramblings to her oh so u
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