Any massage therapist who says that you will receive any other benefit besides feeling nice or loosening up a muscle is pulling your leg. Any chiropractor who says they can do anything besides make your joints and tendons make a popping sound and MAYBE providing temporary relief from something that needs surgery or professional evaluation is pulling your leg. There's a reason that nat
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Handbook? Wow, its 700 pages! It's worth checkin out. Some more observations about Sedona- if I was less intelligent than I am, with the same depression, I would probably be taking all the phrases literally- wanting something means lacking, so I would convince myself not to want anything. That's one of the worst handled concepts they cover. I can see the importance of taking that
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I called the suicide hotline to chat, and after I told the lady I was an atheist, she said 'things will always be the same for you.' Hehe. Good way to have depressed atheists kill themselves. More infidel stuff: (highlight for the secret message) Anyhoo, for the moment, I've adopted the idea that since this is all I get, it is still infinitely valuable in an objective sense. No
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That would be great if, as a practical joke, the 'Leaders' convinced 'trainees' to do the "Joe joe bo bo, fonana nana fo fo" multiple times during conversation. Perhaps that could be a response for those of you deaing with trainees who use the 'technique'
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That might be the heaviest load of crap ever. What sort of school are kids referred to as student a b c. That's not even a story, that's just some passed-along anecdote. You're never right when you talk to a teacher.
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QuotemauriceQuotemindconcern For anyone who might think this is a publicity stunt to publicize the method, please message me. We can exchange numbers, and I will discuss in detail any why questions you may have. For anyone who might think giving their numbers away so easily, see my and other's posts about what happens when you do something like that. I assume you mean I'll call and
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I'm going to get involved in the Sedona method, as I've 'acquired' it. So far it's more appealing than Release because the cds don't go "and a little more... and more." My main purpose is to become parallel to my mom, understand what she's feeling and maintain connection. If you are a religious person, believe in Jesus, Allah, Mohammed, A
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sounds ridiculous. Why would you want or need to connect to your pet psychically or spiritually? "I sense my cat needs some food, and this is a sense beyond seeing that his bowl is empty and he's eating my muffins from the cabinet..."
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Here's a link to the court case involving 'DOCTOR' Zacharia. [72.14.253.104] Basically, when he was first brought before the court, he entered a plea of guilty to one count of transporting a child for unlawful sexual purposes. The district court wanted him to be accountable for all four charges, so they rejected his single guilty plea. RICO is racketeer influenced and corrup
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I strongly suggest looking into more modern views of Christianity. It's the literal belief in angels etc. that has the same trance like affects of hypnosis. The bible contains many stories, some of which were very useful for the time they existed in. Some of them are still good metaphors for life today. There are alot of books which address this idea, for example John Shelby Spong. Th
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What's this have to do with cults, sects, and new religious movements?
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On youtube, you can download a video, and host it yourself. I will do that today and post again with the link so you can add your comment! They may demand it to be removed, or they may not notice it.
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My brother's friend was recently taken from his home in the middle of the night, in the back of a van, and brought to a wilderness ranch. He was there for a year+. They do chores, and AA meetings all day. I haven't talked to the kid about his experience, but I know they weren't allowed to go into town, and weren't allowed to leave to see parents until they earned a certain lev
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Luckily they were someone elses. Unluckily, they are hooked on it. Small update though, the issue she was having with her hand and imagined that the release technique had cured, came back and she had to go to the doctor again anyway. The first time I listened to the first CD and heard "and could you do it a little more... and more" I started to get suspicious. Then at the end when he
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If I said 1 in 3, I pulled it out of my behind, as most statisticians do. I was just illustrating that some people can have a natural, others practiced, defense to manipulative techniques. Other people can't help but trance out. And of course there's a sliding scale there. I'm on the more reactive end myself. I listened to the same CDs and eventually realized I was grinding my teet
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I think the deciding factor is whether or not you think any part of your life is salvageable. If you join these programs throwing all expectation to the wind, the program will take everything you give it and use it for their own benefit, which is financial. They don't give a FF about you, your life, or your family or friends. The bottom line is the dollar, and the more they can gear their pr
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I had a similar experience with someone who claimed to be able to read others thoughts. He said it was a gift from Jesus, but that's beside the point. I didn't get any specific therapy or help for this, but over time I realized that I was only being delusional, because when a close friend manipulates like that, it can be mentally disturbing to realize it, and the mind can tend to reel w
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1--You are powerless. Well, aside from it being a coerced assumption, it's a truth of our existence that we can't affect EVERYTHING in our environment. If we realize this, we can then understand what we CAN affect. 2--Happiness, self-esteem, worthiness, sex appeal, power and etc. comes from withOUT. So "BUY SOMETHING, DAMMIT; IT'S PATRIOTIC!" This does seem to
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I know a guy who I am assuming (subjectively determining) holds the same beliefs as you do: that the separation of church and state was meant to protect churches and religion from the influence of secular government. This is the same guy who believes that if evolution is true, we should be able to witness in the world half-cat half-dogs, and half-parrots half-iguanas. While Beliefs and reli
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There is actually another huge thread (or two) related to calvary. In my city, there are several calvary churches, and alot of people put the stickers they sell on their cars. Its big business here! Anyway, as someone who has been putting their life back together from being manipulated by their belief in God, I would recommend starting secular, and building back from there. Thinking from your
Forum: Destructive Churches

I'm going to come from a totally different angle and suggest that anyone trying to evaluate the sincerity of a minister and his proportional relationship direct to God. I recommend that you personally evaluate what is important to your life, family, the whole world, and all its inhabitants. You may develop a stronger sense of the important factors of the people you listen to.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

I wondered if there was a list of places that the Semblers are still running under different names. One of my brothers friends was sent to a secluded Recovery Ranch for teenage kids, and I want to make sure it isn't one of the Straight Inc offshoots.
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LGATs are still fundamentally scams though! I haven't changed my mind about that.
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I'm not fully aware of PSI but in my experience, with my loved one, the reason they started drifting away from the family is because they weren't receiving enough attention. If a loved one goes to a seminar and seems to be changing, you have to reach into your heart, and sincerely tell them you love them and that you are concerned about this. I have spoken to a family friend who i
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Disconnect You seem pretty sincere. I myself have been applying some of the stuff my mom has been saying, and its been helping in ways. I get much more sincere interactions with people when I let go of the approval seeking behaviors- even if people don't respond better, I don't feel that same tension I used to. The three things still raise my hackles, the marketing with the SECRET TO
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It seems like the best thing we can do for ourselves, to clear our heads of illusions that might be there, and level out what feelings we need to have, is the following: Imagine your life in ten years if you hold the philosophy you subscribe to. Write it down on a pad of paper- whatever comes to mind, be it relationship with family and friends, the rest of the world, personal contribution to soc
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I haven't heard of that particular program. However, two preventative measures you should take since your concern is already rising: 1 Give your significant other more love attention and understanding than usual (make sure its sincere of course, don't overdo it) I think this is often why they turn to others for the 'love-bombing', if they become insecure about how much they&#
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I've listened to a couple of the Release technique CDs now, and I've found the hypnosis element. I'm going to change the words a bit so as not to create any 'copyright' issues. The CDs begin by talking about a particular negative emotion. Negative emotions hold you back from positive ones, fine. Some various chatting about metaphors and how negative emotions are anch
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Well, this forum is for the discussion of whether the method is beneficial or ridiculous, so it would be beneficial for everyone to hear about it.
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Wow, if that's not the best endorsement I've ever heard! I would gladly 2D my personality for all the sex I want in loving connected relationships. How exactly did you transform the release technique into sex?
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