and of course, RandomStu Stuart Resnick has a blog post on poker and "spirituality", with a deliberately oversimplified poker analogy. Poker Tactics for Spiritual Life . And of course, the requisite position from RandomStu...your Guru is suspicious and has a dark shadow, but my friends anti-guru is wonderful, so let me distract your mental focus from asking tough questions. (p
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QuoteThe AnticultQUOTE: (Soen-sa is Seung Sahn) Soen-sa—I am not a philosopher. I am not a scientist. I am not a Buddhist. Muktananda—Then what is your philosophy, and what is the use of that philosophy? Soen-sa—I have no philosophy. Muktananda—Then what is your purpose? Soen-sa—You already understand. Muktananda—I must go now. _______________________ He got that right. He is not a philos
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Its looks like Seung Sahn and Muktananda were just trying to "diss" eachother and give the other guy a "kick" in an infantile game of one-upmanship. (typical of gurus, who are the supreme narcissists) Its pretty obvious that Seung Sahn was afraid that Muk would make him look like an ignorant, uneducated peasant, so Seung Sahn just says a bunch of nonsense to try and deflect.
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Its looks like Seung Sahn and Muktananda were just trying to "diss" eachother and give the other guy a "kick" in an infantile game of one-upmanship. (typical of gurus, who are the supreme narcissists) Its pretty obvious that Seung Sahn was afraid that Muk would make him look like an ignorant, uneducated peasant, so Seung Sahn just says a bunch of nonsense to try and deflect.
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QuoteThe AnticultFor example, there is this pathetic "discussion" between Seung Sahn and Muktananda in Cambridge, December 21, 1974. (search for Muktananda to find it) www.kwanumzen.com/teaching_letters/0201_0300.pdf It does really show you what kind of people both these guys were, especially Seung Sahn, who claims diabetes is good, and then tries to play little mind games with Muktan
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Those comments by Stuart Resnick on the Marta Szabo blog are truly beyond the pale. They are precisely relevant to the Byron Katie situation, and Stuart Resnicks distraction, deflection, and poker-bluff tactics. What is his agenda? He says the SYDA org is weak? Are you kidding? That is a blatant bald-faced bluff and nonsense. Does this look weak? a quick count shows close to 150 Sidd
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by the way, here is a sure-thing poker bet. See if there is any place, where RandomStu ever admits that Byron Katie uses ANY of the various LGAT Tech she uses. (or Steven Sashen, or Carol Skolnick, for that matter). He's not going to do admit it. He will tap-dance until the Judgement Day, but he will never admit or even acknowledge the LGAT techniques and social influence tech BK uses,
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on other forums, some folks are wondering what Stuart Resnick is up to, and even if he believes in advanced persuasion techniques in groups and cults. The reality is that RandomStu has reached a point, where he has to be carefully looked into himself. RandomStu is not an objective guru analyzer, he is not a critical thinker. He is not even on "the peoples" side in this cult abuse s
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Here is a post from Feb 2008, where the manipulative tactics from Stephen Mitchell in email are mentioned again. QUOTE: "The author Stephen Mitchell is her husband. When I was trying to figure out what was happening to me, I contacted Katie with questions. Stephen responded... And let me tell you, his attempts to make me question myself got so ridiculous that I just quit responding to
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just a footnote of CAUTION, about Stephen Mitchell. If anyone has contact with him, by email, or in person at a seminar about any BK problems or issue, please be very very cautious, and very skeptical. You don't know what Stephen Mitchell is really up to, or what he may or may not be doing to you. Stephen Mitchell has been an expert in these areas, since the early 1970's, his e
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an area that has not yet been researched, is Stephen Mitchell. Time to open that up. After all, right after he joined the BK club, many of the BK prices got jacked-up like crazy, as has been shown. The wikipedia talk page for Stephen Mitchell is interesting, as it shows him trying to edit his own page with his own self-promotional PR statements, and he was chided by several wikipedians for
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a bit of a followup on RandomStu Stuart Resnick which is essential due to RandomStu deliberately inserting himself in the middle of the Byron Katie internet distraction machine...and feigning innocence in a transparent bluff tactic. RandomStu also links to Carol Skolnick's blog (Byron Katie facilitator) And contrary to what RandomStu has said about Seung Sahn's sexual abuses of
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by the way, if you want to see the way RandomStu really thinks, when he is not bluffing and play-acting deaf, dumb, and blind... have a look at his Poker gambling postings. Yeah...life is just a big highstake poker game of bluffing...and there's nothing sweeter than a table full of patsies. (poker thread) Always raising on button heads-up 20 Mar 2009 by RandomStu Quoteanothe
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The Stephen Mitchell Wikipedia page is high comedy. The main page does not mention his former wives, and Zen guru's, etc. (the quotes from Seung Sahn from above could all be put into Wikipedia, as they are referenced, as well as Bio listings about his past marriages, etc) It could also list his pubished Zen name... Mu Gak Sunim Mu Gak Su Nim (that supposedly means No-Enlightenment)
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also, it would be wise to make a copy of any important information from the Wayback Machine...as the Wayback Machine will become yet another internet scrubbing BK Washing Machine.
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another thing about RandomStu Stuart Resnick. And these other so-called "Zen" people along these same lines. Their pattern is to try to use their methods of Dharma Combat on people. The problem is, its not done with intellectual integrity, as mentioned by many people. Its literally being poisoned from the Poker-Chess concepts being used. Even RandomStu's speech on YouTube s
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regarding RandomStu, he does not put forward intellectually honest arguments, as noted previously, and as stated by a number of people. Also note, that the analysis of the Byron Katie LGAT seminars in that Guruphiliac forum thread, has been completely disrupted and derailed by the intrusion of RandomStu, exactly like he attempted in this thread. Why is RandomStu pushing himelf in there?
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Stuart Resnik has finally attempted to dispel his connection to Stephen Mitchell and tries to sound ignorant of how the connection developed. He fails to mention that Stephen Mitchell was one of the closest disciples of Seung Sahn (from 1973-1989) who founded the Kwan Um School of Zen of which Resnick is now a senior Dharma Teacher. From the RandomStu blog we learn of a fellow yale graduate an
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The zen stick story about Seung Sahn, pretty much sizes that guy up. first Confuse... then Dominance and submission. Some of his followers try to do the same thing. Try to confuse people, and then do a verbal beat-down on them until they submit. That stuff all came out of ancient dominance hierarchies, like a tribe, or clan.
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Corboy, Clearly the zen stick is a significant aspect of zen. The zen master in some traditions will hit people with sticks for meditation purposes. I'm not sure how many do or don't. Don't you think that could be an easier explanation as to why so many zen stories involve hitting people with sticks? "Practitioners may request not to be hit." I'm glad that is a
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Haven't read the article yet, but just from the low-lites above...these guys are really experts in PR advertising propaganda. But Stephen Mitchell, what a Zen fraud, another abuser of Zen. He, and his group of other anti-Zenites, a bunch of old white dudes trying to make a buck, who try to pretend that wisdom and knowledge are CONTRADICTION and trickery. False. Lies. Deceit. That is
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A comment in the LA Times by a Stuart Resnick RandomStu...on drugs and "morality". There is also a ridiculous thread, with some guy trying to say Adi Da was great when in fact that guy was an blatant criminal. RandomStu chimes in, in that thread, its obvious he knows what these people are doing to other people, in terms of manipulation of mental concepts, and also the LGAT style s
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Here's a comment in the LA times from a Stuart Resnick on drugs. He deflects from the obvious fact that marijuana is obviously psychologically addictive and has gotten very powerful due to the engineering of the plant. Marijuana is now quite a powerful drug, and leads to memory problems, and reduced functioning, health problems, and it can lead to compulsive daily drug use and drug-seekin
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This is a disturbing example of how far these groups and their followers can go. QUOTE: "York was convicted Jan. 23, 2004, in U.S. District Court in Brunswick on charges of racketeering, child molestation, transporting minors for unlawful sex and tax evasion. A judge sentenced the 63-year-old sect leader to 135 years in prison." Here you have a leader, convicted and jailed
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its interesting having a glance at the Guruphiliac thread about Byron Katie. Its the most active thread there, approaching 20% of all the posts in that forum. The original poster in that thread, posted some obviously honest, and thus very damaging information about the Byron Katie LGAT seminar. Even though they don't appear to have much experience with LGAT seminars, and were just repor
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how about a Cheech & Chong bong reference! ;-) like my momma always said... ...never believe aging white dudes with fake names, wearing fake Zen costumes, with large beards to hide their poker-face, who tell you to mindlessly paint the Golden Gate Bridge forever. But to be balanced to the Guruphiliac, at least he did state that the Byron Katie people are his friends, as opposed to Resn
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UH HUH!
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QuoteJay CruiseIt upsets me more that Jody Radzik would offer endorsements to friends giving credence to these cult apologists, than Stuart Resnik thinking he is a covert ninja of the mind. I just posted about both Stuart and Jody in the Seung Sahn thread, will say something about it here as well... Just the other day I was reading a blog entry on Eckhart Tolle at the Guruphiliac blog and was
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