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13 years ago
kyra1985
Quotedh07Abraham Hicks makes books and other learning tools available. They are also all about self-help in the real sense of the word. They frequently remind attendees that no purchases or continued workshop attendances are necessary in order to practice that which they are teaching. And Spiritualist medium Margery never charged a dime for her services. She was still caught in her fraudulence.
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13 years ago
dh07
Abraham Hicks makes books and other learning tools available. They are also all about self-help in the real sense of the word. They frequently remind attendees that no purchases or continued workshop attendances are necessary in order to practice that which they are teaching. There is no cult and, in fact, there is a means of validating what they espouse: just try it! It is a simple matter of
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13 years ago
jeand
A good example of how Ray has controlled and still controls someone's mind can be seen by looking up greg hartle on youtube. The former JRI employee/accomplice in the death and/or cover up of Colleen Conaway, is "traveling the 50 states with just '10 dollars and a laptop'". A few days ago he said he was in Seattle, and mentioned he had been in Portland, OR over the summe
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
kyra1985
Quotesewbusy06@yahoo.com What is really interesting is Christianity is the only Religion that doesn't believe in reincarnation and karma. Those things were intentionally left out of the Bible as a form of control. The Bible was written 325 years after the death of Christ by a Pagan and a group of Clerics. Many things were omitted intentionally. Furthermore, the dates of Christs birth and
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13 years ago
WineGuy
I think this is a very useful website. Whenever I hear of some new spiritual group one of my friends mentions I have done quick search here to see what is up with them. I think I have used this site to get ammo against IMPACT, Abraham-Hicks and The Secret. I never really need such info for myself as I am able to get a sense pretty quick who is legit, but often my friends will not just take my wo
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
LearningInProgress
Quote... how come every time I go to their website, they're selling something? New agers, or enlightened/ascended people, make it a business and want you to buy their stuff. [/quote Love it! You are absolutely right. They are selling, selling, selling. As for their services, some charge more than some lawyers do! And, without the student loans. It makes me sad that people take such a
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13 years ago
kyra1985
I was listening to a recording from an old workshop and found this glaring error. A questioner asked “Are we descended from apes?” Here was the exchange: QuoteAbeHicks 04/19/1997 Silver Springs, MD ABRAHAM: Is that which is now human an extension of that which was now ape? No. Did the human experience evolve as a result of the experience of the ape? Yes. QUESTIONER: Is there a link bet
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13 years ago
The Anticult
The Abe-Hicks text about the Holocaust, should be collated and sent to holocaust denial centers. Perhaps someone who works on holocaust denial, and has an interest in in the New Age could expose it. Abe-Hicks are not the only new agers to say that victims of genocide "attracted it".
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13 years ago
alyb45
Esther Hicks downplays the Holocaust and essentially any murder with the teaching that "in that horrible act of murder they're launching rockets of desires of what they're preferring and the larger part of them is becoming. " Esther has also stated as her alter ego 'Abraham Hicks' in regards to murder that "We do not look there and the fact that you are
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
Brynhild Tudor
Don't worry Sunshine, let's all be in this together. Then we're not alone! If it makes you feel any better, I thought I'd never fall for this stuff either. We're intelligent, free-thinking adults, at least that's what we thought. This seems like the appropriate thread to discuss this, so out of curiosity: Has anyone here successful at those "new paradigm, shi
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
Brynhild Tudor
Hey Calm, Wow, you feel that way too? How happy I am to know I'm not alone either! I was involved with the new age for 5 years with various authors (Caroline Myss, Eckhart Tolle, Byron Katie, Wayne Dyer, The Secret and the Abraham Hicks teachings, lightworkers, ascension, Karen Bishop, Sal Rachele, tons of channelings, Sonia Choquette) for varying periods of time each. I can spout the lingo
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
Brynhild Tudor
The realization is slowly dawning on me: especially when Alyb45 put the signs of a cult leader on there, it's a cult and they're frauds. If you substitute Abraham for "cult leader", everything qualifies. I didn't want to believe it because the majority of people say the teachings are so loving, how could it be a cult? There's always an answer for everything and so ma
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13 years ago
alyb45
hey Brynhild Tudor There are a lot of people out there thinking they're different and tapped into some higher power so it's not surprising that new age uses that to lure people in. (as with every other religion that ever existed lol) I think its great you balance empathy with action. You seem very practical . I myself have a non conformist streak and am very independent. I thin
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
13 years ago
Brynhild Tudor
Hey Alyb45 it's me again, When and how did you realize Esther Hicks was a fraud, and the Abraham teachings were a lie? One of the things that is tough for me is being in the minority and standing up against the majority. Even though the teachings are rock-solid consistent that nobody can find a thing wrong with them, and something doesn't feel right to me about them, even though I can&
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13 years ago
Brynhild Tudor
Hey Alyb45, I was in it for 5 years. Karen Bishop's energy alerts, Sal Rachele, lightworkers, LOA, the Abraham teachings, Caroline Myss, Eckhart Tolle, channeling. Lots and lots of channeling. All the messages said, "beware of channeled messages, because there's so many chances for inaccurate information. Except ours. Ours is accurate, and only for loving beings." I even had
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
13 years ago
alyb45
hey Brynhild Tudor I was into the new age for about a year and 1/2. I got introduced through an Eckhart Tolle book "power of now" and then got into his work. Afterwards I watched the movie the Secret and through a loa group I started to get into Abraham Hicks. I would say I was really into Esther Hicks for about 8 months. I even went to her workshop. In honesty what snapped me ou
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
13 years ago
Brynhild Tudor
Hi Alyb45, Depressed. Yeah, that's what I am. I don't know why. I wasn't really happy in the new age, but reality is depressing too, although it feels much better than new age ever did. How long were in the new age, and how long did it take you to start feeling like yourself again? It screws with your mind, and as you know, it has no concept of right and wrong. Well, according to
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
13 years ago
Brynhild Tudor
Hey Alyb45, Thanks for the advice! It's the best I've gotten, and thanks to all of you for putting up with my rantings. I'm at the point where I can say I was involved with a cult, even though it's not like the ones you see on the news. Instead of money I gave my time and energy over to it, and did not know how deeply I was immersed in it until I'm now just starting to
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
13 years ago
kyra1985
Very excited to announce that skeptic's dictionary just added Abraham Hicks!
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
alyb45
bponeal1982 you make a great point. Abraham Hicks can be considered a cult. Below is an example of the cult tactics she uses. .. Anything the group/leader does can be justified no matter how harsh or harmful. The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible. Dependency upon the
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes
13 years ago
kyra1985
Quotekyra1985 He's from Arkansas. *Cannot verify this. Now I can. From Atlanta, GA workshop 10/25/2008 Jerry: I know, it was weird. So I hid them all in the back of a closet. And I had a lot… I was from, you know, Arkansas and had a lot of big heavy coats and things that you never ever use in San Diego, so it was hidden in the back of this closet. Also, it is mentioned in The
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes
13 years ago
kyra1985
CORRECTION: Pardon me, the correct date for Esther's divorce to Richard Geer was August 21st 1980 (Not August 25th).
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13 years ago
kyra1985
QuoteRecovering MLMIn the mid 70's to mid 80's, Jerry Hicks was an Amway distributor; some diamond level, based in Fresno CA. He's from Arkansas. His wife at the time was Trish. A darling chaming southern hospitality type couple. During his presentations of the Amway business plan to groups of people at hotel and restaurant meeitng rooms, Jerry would start off with a sort of meta
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13 years ago
kyra1985
I love that you are advocating people like Carl Sagan (who I love). But you know, people involved in Abraham Hicks are taught not to use critical thinking to discern right and wrong. They are supposed to use their emotional guidance system. I'm glad that I've run into another performer, because I would like to get your feedback here. This has been my experience. Haven't you not
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13 years ago
waywardsister
Just browsing through this thread (I used to be a fan of the Abe thing) and I noticed that some people seem to think that this sort of thing is difficult, or impossible, to fake. I've seen comments here and elsewhere to the effect of "she's so quick with answers, how could she be faking this?" and such. Well, she could very well be. I do improv, and it is simply amazing the
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13 years ago
kyra1985
And still more of their bad craftmanship. This and more can be found at ESTHER AND JERRY: GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT! There are interesting inconsistencies in Jerry and Esther's memories of their first encounters with Abraham. Let's just take a gander at A New Beginning I (published in 1988) and Ask and it is Given (published in 2005) Excerpted from A New Beginning I (page 5): J
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13 years ago
alyb45
Hey Brainwashed90 I do applaud you for stepping back and realizing that Eckhart Tolle is employing mind control and hypnotism tactics and that yes, he did try to get you into a vegetative “lifeless” mental state. Eckhart Tolle is very dangerous man in my opinion, along with any other ‘egotistical’ gurus claiming you need to ‘dumb’ down yourself and stop thinking all together in order to achieve h
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
alyb45
Abraham Hicks is a fraud and definitely brainwashes people. (especially vulnerable ones looking for ‘life answers.’) Eckhart Tolle does this as well. I’m not familiar with Katie Byron but I did check out her website and from this forum can tell she’s in the same boat as the rest. I would like to focus on Abraham Hicks in hopes that an “Aber” reading this can open their eyes to the brainwashing t
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
alyb45
Abraham Hicks is a fraud and definitely brainwashes people. (especially vulnerable ones looking for ‘life answers.’) Eckhart Tolle does this as well. I’m not familiar with Katie Byron but I did check out her website and from this forum can tell she’s in the same boat as the rest. I would like to focus on Abraham Hicks in hopes that an “Aber” reading this can open their eyes to the brainwashing t
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes
13 years ago
kyra1985
Hey The Anticult, Yes, I've read all the forums on rickross about the Hickses and have found them very useful. Some of those were created several years ago, though, so I was hoping to reach out and find new information or people who are now starting to come forward with their negative experiences with the Hicks' material. We'll see. Thanks for the response, Kyra
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