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13 years ago
The Anticult
The flagrant Abraham-Hicks scamola confidence-trick, has been explored in many other threads. Abraham - Hicks forum search for Abraham Hicks
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
kyra1985
Where to begin? Abraham’s 1989 predictions of disaster were way off base. Esther makes anticipation errors. Abraham is awfully impatient for a nonphysical entity. They discourage critical thinking and encourage emotional thinking (a classic mind control technique). They foolishly endorsed John Edward, who is a notoriously bad cold reader who’s show is edited to make him appear to have more psychi
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes
13 years ago
Brynhild Tudor
Another way it's affected me: My sleep patterns are screwed up. I used to be able to sleep 6 hours a night, regular, and felt fine. Now I only sleep 4-4 hours. They say I'm ascending, but I think, "I'm supposed to be happy with this? It makes me feel worse, not better." And they're kinda like, "oh well, that's the way it is. It'll get better soon."
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
13 years ago
Brynhild Tudor
Hi Pegasus, Thanks for your post. It gave me a lot to think about. I was reading another post along these lines, I think it was Recovering from New-age Mumbo-jumbo, and one of the posters, I think it was Quackdave, said something like, "If you want to stop, then stop. Just don't look at them anymore. It's simple." I felt when people say things like that, "just do it. It&
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
13 years ago
Brynhild Tudor
Hi, All my life I looked for somewhere to belong, and though I tried Christianity and Paganism, they didn't fit, and someone suggested my beliefs were too "fluffy" for Paganism, and "there's the new-age movement. Go join that." So I did. Uh-oh... Now I wished I never had anything to do with it, because I'm mentally and psychologically screwed up, and I don
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
13 years ago
bponeal1982
Pasted below is the transcript of the Abraham-Hicks Boston, MA 06/05/2010 workshop closing remarks. How this doesn't qualify as a cult is beyond me. Parts that reference detachment from reality are bolded. "We've decided as we focus on you to speak only as we think about you. In other words, we've been building some bridges for a while, we've been accepting you
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes
13 years ago
shakti
Rick just poste this article. It always blows me away how many of these cretins have to jump into the Holocaust. In general, the Holocaust and the modern-day Darfur slaughter are offered as litmus tests for how committed these weirdoes are to the "Law of Attraction". I guess JAR fails the test.... "Ray has a history of finding the unlikely bright side of tragedy -- even his
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
rrmoderator
Here are some basic warning signs: See Ten warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader. 1. Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability. 2. No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry. 3. No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement. 4. Unreasonable fear about the outside
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes
13 years ago
hendrinam
I think that human beings just seem to have an inbuilt proclivity to follows stuff... sometimes blindly. I simply think we should think before we step into anything.
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes
13 years ago
Penelope
Neale isn't offering any new cutting edge philosophy, the criticism of him isn't because he's being 'persecuted' for his great ideas. He is a charlatan, he promotes a rather creepy moral relativism and claims to speak with/for God himself. I think he had a Mr. Rushmore-sized ego to begin with and he is quite openly materalistic and greedy. I saw an interview with him a
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
wc
QuoteThe Anticult There is an excellent DVD class on the human brain. Understanding the Brain, taught by Dr. Jeanette Norden Many public libraries would have this DVD program on the human brain, 16 hours of accurate knowledge one can watch for free on DVD. Its fascinating in a lecture in the course, the professor talks about how there are "mirror neurons" and how they have
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
There is no question that James Ray does get off on the attention from all the people who are giving him the Twitter-STFU. Gurus like James Ray, truly perceive themselves as being special and superior to others. They seem to really believe it, which is one of the reasons they can do such terrible things to others, and keep doing them. After the Sedona deaths, James Ray kept on doing his seminar
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
a few interesting links, search Google for: "bernard poolman" "Aleister Crowley" The name Cathy Krafft is there too, with hundreds of links. "Cathy krafft" desteni There are Usenet posts about Desteni going back to 2007. ------------------- Process : Self-Honesty Filed under: Posts , 'Break Your Boundaries, Abraham, Bernard Poolman, bi
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
Unfortunately time is short, so more specifics will follow soon. But what has happened in the last day is a classic example of a persuasion technique, used on the internet, and far more powerfully in person. That is a cognitive FLOODING technique, being used by Bernie Poolman & Co. Its designed for new Desteni members, and for those who might be interested in Desteni, who might come acr
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Darryl Thomas
Mr or Ms "Anticult." I need to correct a few mistakes and assumptions you've presented. I did not "lie" about not offering courses because as of the time I posted in that forum (Feb 2009), we did not offer any. If you dug deep enough you would have seen when we began to offer the SRA courses which were in August 2009. QuoteDarryl Thomas is also linking to the Abraham-
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
And Desteni has extensive manipulative propaganda about Desteni being a CULT on their own website. Desteni is a Dangerous Cult? They are deliberately raising questions about Desteni being a cult, to attract attention. Bernard Poolman knows exactly what he is doing to people, they know how all those techniques work, they are using many of them. That is what Desteni is. The channeling stuf
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
Desteni also mimicked the channeling Abe-Hicks thing about The Vortex, and instead calls it The Portal. Desteni is just a grab-bag of copied techniques from a number of other sects, groups, and cults.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
Desteni Productions has obviously copied a number of cults, and their methods. They have even tried to tap into channeling L. Ron Hubbard from the Scientology cult. "She also has a video up of her channeling L. Ron Hubbard" Desteni members are even posting lies that everything in Desteni is "free". Obviously that's a proven lie, as shown in this thread, the onlin
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
@ CosmicConnie: Abe-Hicks have a rather large multimilliondollar business going, with many followers. Even though Mrs Hicks is a horrible actress when she fakes going into a Abe-Trance, the Abe-Hicks couple ain't stupid. So of course they are not going to risk their own necks openly for James Ray, as James Ray might get convicted. Abe doesn't want to get tarred with James Ray, just
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Cosmic Connie
I agree, Anticult, that $20.00 crap-books are not the big problem here. They can be a stepping stone to 'harder drugs,' but they're not the big deal. I hope you don't think I'm trying to underplay the more serious harm that LGATs, etc. can inflict on some people. I'm not. As for Abe-Hicks, I agree that they're con artists. You won't get any argument from m
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
Yes, Kevin Trudeau, who might defined as a health-quack scam artist conspiracy Guru... the authorities banned him from certain types of infomercials, so he just did a slightly different type of infomerical. They fine him, he just changes tactics. He doesn't care, it just makes him angrier. Kevin Trudeau used to sell memory-programs, he'll sell anything that makes a profit. He picked
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Cosmic Connie
Anticult: Amen (if you'll pardon the expression :-)) One who comes to mind immediately is Kevin Trudeau, aka True-dough. Though not originally or specifically a self-help guru per se, he is a serial con artist, and recently has dipped heavily into the lucrative New-Wage/Law of Attraction pool, through his association with Joe Vitale, et al. True-dough has been in prison and has been fined mi
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
James Ray continues to make his idiot tweets, the only value of which are the clever responses from others. Here you have James Ray, a New Wage conman and sociopath Tweeting his secrets of the universe, and he can't even spell basic words. Its existence, not existense. Its literal, not litteral. The only LITTER is the trash being put out by James Ray's warped mind. Did James Ray
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Cosmic Connie
Good points again, AC, and I hope it didn't seem that I was implying that the issue of whether or not Dave Lakhani is exaggerating his credentials is unimportant. I only meant that from my own perspective, NLP claims are an automatic red flag, so I didn't bother to go down that research path myself regarding Dave's claims. However, you're correct when you say that it'
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Penelope
I think people who've read Deepak Chopra and Wayne Dyer over the years have been put in a frame of mind where if someone DOES tell them to put it to the test, they'd be much more likely to go along with it and think it's possible. These two authors are extremely popular and mainstream. I have no doubt the average James Ray fan has read Chopra, Abraham-Hicks and/or Dyer, if not o
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
The Anticult
QuotePenelopeThe concept of mind over matter in New Age circles isn't as extremist as you might think. Abraham-Hicks teach that you can do anything, I mean ANYTHING, if you're in emotional vibration with what you want. Yes, many new agers sell the New Thought idea of supreme mind/matter. The difference is that for most of them, they keep it to TALK in their books, and don't rea
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Penelope
The concept of mind over matter in New Age circles isn't as extremist as you might think. Abraham-Hicks teach that you can do anything, I mean ANYTHING, if you're in emotional vibration with what you want. I remember someone asking if they could regrow a missing tooth and they said yes! of course you can! You can also ignore a cancer diagnosis and focus on postive thoughts and it wil
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Sparky
I've attended a session with someone who was "channeling", in this case, an alien lifeform from far far away who spoke through telepathy and had no native tongue. The "Channeler" slipped into his "trace" and IMMEDIATELY started speaking like someone from India! Huh! Why the accent, big guy? All channeling is bullshit and robbery of the "less mentall
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes
14 years ago
jeand
A woman I know, C, who is in another state now, is in communication with a mutual friend,V, who I talk to on a regular basis. Today V told me C is really into the Abraham channeling and cannot do one thing all day w/o referring to Abraham. She won't shop at thrift stores, or associate in any way with volunteer work because she said these things are associated with "lack" and negati
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes
14 years ago
The Anticult
The banality of dangerous internet luring directed at soft-targets. _____________quote excerpt________________________ Christina Merkley The SHIFT-IT Coach Ask Christina Question: I Love Your Stuff and LOA But I’m Barely Making Ends Meet … 1. There is a wealth of free information on my favorite teachers site: Jerry and Esther Hicks and The Teachings of Abraham. Go to www.abraham-h
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