A long time ago, Lakhani claimed that he helped a 12-year-old boy stop wetting the bed. I'm wondering if he didn't take that from Dr. Milton Erickson, who famously used a metaphor about baseball to teach a young boy about bladder control...
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This is a long read. The mind you save may be your own. This is an analysis by The Antcult of a script of another guru's "teaching story". Go through it and see if any of it matches what you've seen Moo say or do. Re: Byron Katie (the Work) - hypnotic language patterns, metaphors Posted by: The Anticult Date: March 11, 2008 06:48AM -----------------------
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Slightly off topic but for those interested in understanding the efficacy of these techniques, Derren Brown is a bit of a master. I’m no expert on the subject but will share my take on this (interesting) video, to demonstrate & demystify somewhat. Derren opens by asking for something the participant will most likely be happy to give (directions), it's his initial way into building
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Thanks for reposting that. I've noted similar things with his speech patterns, and his "invitation" being a trance induction routine. Tony used to have an almost middle class British accent, someone in the comments here notes he assimilated Papaji, this seems like a fairly accurate opinion. Tony's earlier videos were of this assimilated style, but over time his spee
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Sahara71 Wrote: Date: June 19, 2019 08:54AM ------------------------------------------------------- > > Also: > > A very interesting article about Osho (Rajneesh) > that includes references to hypnosis: > > > Quote: > 'Hilly Zeitlin, a clinical social worker who was > co-director of Options for Personal Transition in > Berkeley, an organizati
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Heather, you are really brave. I recommend the book "The Other Half of the Mountain" by McCall Erickson which is about how to find meaning when all paths seem to have lead to a dead end. Then compare that to Hesse's "Siddhartha". I too am trying to figure this out after waking up about the path I was on. Ruth
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Hi Heather, I was in SRF from 1979 to 1990 but the abuse I suffered because of it seems very minor compared to yours. I am trying to not be in despair because of the disillusionment. A book is coming to me which may help: "The Second Half of the Mountain" by McCall Erickson. BTW, don't let anyone try to use Byron Katie's ideas to help you because they are abusive. I wish you
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Basic Introduction To Hypnosis In Scientology The Mockingbird site has additional articles on methods of confusion used by L Ron Hubbard in Scientology. Then, let us ask if we have seen these same methods, this 'tech' used by persons in settings other than Scientology, ahem. L.Ron Hubbard and those who learned from him, were the earliest on record to appropriate Milton
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Some gems from Google. This article contains many quotations from Milton Erickson's early article on Confusion Technique of trance induction. The Anticult, who in 2008 gave lessons to CEI message board about methods of trance induction, told us about the work of Milton Erickson, who created innovative methods of trance induction - methods where it is unnecessary to put the subject to slee
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Prettyboy: Welcome! A couple comments/questions for you and others if they know. You mentioned Anthony Cox and his wife - was her name Melinda? I watched his documentary and the woman looks like Melinda Erickson, who married Todd Erickson. They lived at Shiloh when I was younger and then moved to the East Coast I believe. If I remember correctly they had a printing company. Interestin
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kdag, Thank you for this resource, which I excerpt below: "Why is the Double Bind important? The discovery of the Double Bind led it’s visionaries to produce a variety of works dedicated to understanding the use of paradox and the double bind to overcome resistance and motivate change (much of it necessarily covert manipulation) within a therapeutic context. They, especially Bateso
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This stuff has been discussed here in depth by a denizen of the message board named The Anticult. We learned a lot from TAC while discussing by a commercial transformation teacher named Byron Katie. Introduction - double meanings in sublminal trance persuasion. The Anticult showed us how these messages can be used to dull our response to genuine danger, compromise our boundaries and - inst
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The Yes Set trance induction technique and how it might in some contexts be used in satsang gatherings. QuoteThe Yes Set and No Set Trance Induction Techniques--How Satsang Questioning Blows Our Minds This is a 'technology'. It is not a mark of special wisdom or attainment. Anyone can learn it if patient and ambitious. This mere verbal description may seem inadequate w
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Check out this amazing article about Tulsi Gabbard, and all the comments. Bernie Sanders Must Drop Tulsi Gabbard http://ww4report.com/node/14756 PAY ATTENTION TO COMMENTOR MIKA ERICKSON - that is the real deal opposition to Chris Butler right there. Dharmabum- Wai Lana sure is Horri-Bol haha and DABS, much respect to Yoko Ono for calling out ACBS and his BS way back then. Don'
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Walter1963 wrote a lot of informative material. QuoteDate: January 18, 2011 06:16PM Gregory Bateson soon after endorsing B&G repudiated both of them and NLP when later asked about NLP stated: 'If someone says they know NLP, run don't walk away from them.' Bateson was ticked off at them because he saw the toxic direction NLP had took and that a lot of it's leadi
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Corboy note: one important rhetorical device is the implied syllogism, the term for which is enthymeme. Yet...if you put enthymeme into Google search alongside trance, or neurol A small excerpt from the article. Take care to read the comments, too - its fun to see the range of reations. QuoteWhat they came up with was a kind of evolution of hypnotherapy—while classical hypnosis
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Meh wrote: "It wouldn't surprise me if there's a subconscious association that someone who is a little ditzy and helpless can't possibly be that dangerous." Acting stupid and ditzy can be a brilliant move. Read an anecdote by someone in the fashion industry. I cant find the book, so here is a paraphrase. Elizabeth Hawes, an American designer, was put of
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c-barb wrpte I also want to share my own analysis of the situation having spent my first 18-20 years in the church and almost as long searching for the answers before I really began to understand the words of the Bible, without the elaborations and taking out of context done in Struthers. Anyway, I have spent many years researching mass hypnosis in various places and forms and, whether you b
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Dear NOT AGAIN First thank you for your testimonials.....rare is the one who will have the courage to come forward and not be afraid of the HELL REALMS that will be the result of betraying the great Sharon Wipprencht NOW YOU SAID when you have people that want to believe so badly in something or someone, it is easy to manipulate them very subtly, especially when people do have geniuin
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NLP is a form of trance induction brought about by manipulating the grammar and word usage in sentences. It was developed by ambitious persons who studied the work of Milton Erikson, MD, who was an accomplished medical hypnotist, but took it in directions (use by salespeople) that Dr Erickson would not have approved of. Nouns and verbs are confused, triggers can be embedded. The problems a
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Upgrayed wrote: QuoteBecause people who join subconsciously feel the objectification, they often try to please others in the organization through showing faith and zealotry as a means to overcome that subtle objectified feeling. That is important. When feeling emotionally starved, a little bit of affirmation can seem a feast, and one dwells on the memory of that affirmation during the l
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There are standard methods of inducing sublime experiences, even ecstacies that feel personal intimate and private for the person to whom such methods are applied. They will feel and be encouraged by the others to feel that the ecstatic experience proves the value and truth of whatever belief system is taught. And..they will often unconsciously believe that the group has ownership of this e
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One way Ole and his minions can separate the true believers from those less suggestiable is to see who becomes convinced that the phowa ritual left a mark on their noggins. And phowa deals with preparation for death--a matter that brings up deep emotion for us. An aroused audience, concerned with death and with the ritual of phowa is a deeply suggestible audience, in terms of trance induct
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Found this paper, all of which is well worth reading. Over the years, many former members of Siddha and SYDA yoga have written with deep emotion how they came to recognize how abusive the organization was, that they knew in looking back that they had made the right decision to leave. But despite this conscious recognition, many spoke of the bliss they had felt not once, but many times,
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QuoteyasminMr Ross, Out of interest what were the ethical concerns regarding Steve Hassan? I am aware of the fact that at one point his fee schedule was not posted, but did not know that there were ethical concerns regarding his practice? Would be grateful for more info on this. By the way, Zeuszor, congrats on the degree, and I agree with you , ( for what its worth) that sociology/research at l
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Zueszor, Just mo, but a discussion of therapy may be considered of use/relevant to some in or around high intensity religious groups. When you are discussing the possibility of creating change, the issue perhaps is that right now you are looking at and talking about sociological approaches, not about therapists. If you want to fix a broken car, you can go to an electric physicist for theories
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Hi Paperlane, NLP is largely based on Ericksonian hypnosis; that's what the "quotes" were for - Erickson, from what I understand, never intended his techniques to be used outside a therapeutic context. When I was a teenager, I became the "student" of someone who had been the direct student of Richard Bandler, one of the founders. By the time I was 18, I was at a wha
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I agree with you completely Anticult. 'Design Human Engineering' a truly horrible concept, and open to abuse by any megalomaniac with the cash to buy and twist the tech to his own ends. But there is nothing new under the sun. A couple of years ago I read a blog comment, on a long dead Hindu chap called Dattatreya, that really did underline that for me: "The Self alo
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Robbins had a falling out with the NLP gurus decades ago. Heck Bandler and Grinder slammed him hard in their book "Frogs into Princes", in it they didn't name him, but got after him for using monsters like Hitler and Mussolini as along with various TV evangelists as role models. Not only did he pick up their charisma but also their collective inhumanity as well. As to why Robbi
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The Yes Set and No Set Trance Induction Techniques--How Satsang Questioning Blows Our Minds This is a 'technology'. It is not a mark of special wisdom or attainment. Anyone can learn it if patient and ambitious. This mere verbal description may seem inadequate when compared with the bliss and astonishing altered experiences people report "we all had them" around Andre
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