howmidoing Wrote:
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> LampShmamp Wrote:
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> > Howmidoing, I enjoy your enthusiasm and quest
> to
> > galvanize the troops for change. I imagine we
> have
> > all dreamed about bringing down that
> organization
> > once and for all. Go for it. Have you thought
> > further than the theoretical? Optimally, to
> whom
> > do you see a letter or letters going, and what
> > reaction are you hoping for? Would we all send
> > approximately the same letter? Considering
> those
> > here who collectively agree that there has
> never
> > existed a religion that did NOT twist scripture
> > for its own gain, and since the walk never
> > pretended to care about bringing souls to Jesus
> in
> > the first place (indeed, many here thoughtfully
> > maintain the whole Jesus thing is overrated),
> that
> > leaves for subject matter the harm they have
> done,
> > something we do agree on. No need to dispute
> > religious dogma differences, which are legion;
> > there is plenty of good old-fashioned
> immorality
> > they should answer for. I would love to read
> more
> > of your thoughts on this, and a first draft.
>
>
> I doubt that it would bring them down. But I
> imagine a well executed letter campaign would stir
> up something. Possibly get some rumors going
> around, at least the word "cult" should circulate
> to get people searching; maybe get some of the
> members to question what it is that they truly
> believe in. And start a trend of people possibly
> beginning to think for themselves. I mean we have
> all done it at one time or another and all of us
> were involved for years or born into. So it is
> possible. Especially if the letters are addressed
> to different people and the main churches. So it's
> not just going to one person that can hide them.
>
> I just know for me, it wasn't until someone
> confronted me with the word cult, showed me
> evidence that LW is a known as such by other
> Christian & secular organizations, did even start
> to suspect anything. It was a seed planted, and I
> was angry and defending LW even though I hadn't
> been part of it in 3 years at the time.
>
> I would hope to at least get the main pastors &
> some individuals to realize that the hurts they
> have caused, the people they have tossed aside are
> not gone or insignificant. That we exist in
> numbers.
>
> I would hope that everyone here would contact
> their friends that are former members as well and
> ask if they would like to join the letter writing.
> I can think of 5 people off the top of my head
> that no longer attend but I doubt are aware of
> this website or the numbers of people viewing this
> particular forum.
>
> I do think, even if some here do not ascribe to
> Jesus, there is validity in pointing this out to
> LW, because they advertise themselves as
> Christian, but wholly do not follow scripturally
> legitimate procedures. Such as the very clear
> tenants in Timothy of being a deacon/pastor in a
> Christian church (husband of one wife, sober, not
> given to anger, etc).
>
>
> I think letters (plural) would have greater
> impact. I don't imagine this to be an instant
> fire, but a slow burn.
>
> Does that make sense?


I don't think it would work, but not sure. I think most of us are not members for different reason. Some on here liked some people but others have bad memories of those same people and vis versa.

I would say most ex-members unless you were booted out or had a broken up marriage would ever say anything bad about John. Especially the leadership at the time. JMHO

kBOY Wrote:
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> (Or all the fun we are missing out on.)
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> Pray Without Ceasing!
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> Posted on April 5, 2017
> by Debbie Oliveira
>
> [www.haleokaula.org]
> sing/
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> Christ Ends Your Mistrust
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> Posted on April 7, 2017
> by Craig Haworth
>
> [www.shilohiowa.org]
> rust/
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> Passover Judges The Gods You Serve
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> Posted on April 7, 2017
> by Gary Hargrave
>
> [www.garyandmarilynhargrave.com]
> over-judges-the-gods-you-serve/


"Passover Judges The Gods You Serve"

Is there a hidden message in this one. Is Gary about to die?

I doubt the G-man would pass up the opportunity to become a bishop or a cardinal in the Catholic church--he seems to be on the fast-track.

kBOY Wrote:
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> I doubt the G-man would pass up the opportunity to
> become a bishop or a cardinal in the Catholic
> church--he seems to be on the fast-track.

John would be so proud of him!

kBOY Wrote:
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> (Or all the fun we are missing out on.)
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> > Passover Judges The Gods You Serve
>
> Posted on April 7, 2017
> by Gary Hargrave
>
> [www.garyandmarilynhargrave.com]
> over-judges-the-gods-you-serve/


As we approach the Feast of Passover, I am driven to see the School of Prophets fulfill its purpose of bringing the Kingdom of God to earth. (blah, blah, blah...more polluting God's name and claiming His power to be yours.)

However, today we are just as subject to other spiritual deities (does he mean, Marilyn) as the children of Israel were.

Once we are free from other gods (could it be G&M?) and we are living in the Kingdom, we can, as a school of prophets, deliver all of humanity into the Kingdom (of Disney World.)

This Passover, we confess our subjection to other gods, (who..The Lamp?) and we ask God to finish (go for it) what He started in the first Passover. (Is Gary next?)

Our cry (primal scream) is, Father, deliver us from all the other gods (G&M) we serve (YES, we loose it!) and into Your Kingdom of Disney World.

kBOY Wrote:
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> I doubt the G-man would pass up the opportunity to
> become a bishop or a cardinal in the Catholic
> church--he seems to be on the fast-track.


Marilyn will never allow G-man to pray to Mary: Hail Mary full of grace....blessed are you among all women.....

howmidoing wrote:

"Just as a side note - I personally think, if former members of LW no longer ascribe to Jesus and the Trinity, then LW has won (I mean they are the "right" way to the Kingdom, right?). Just my biased opinion. Please feel free to ignore! :)"

Sarcasm, right? I hope you don't truly believe that statement. If there is actually a loser, it's those who remain in TLW frittering away their lives waiting for a pseudo-leader to lead them into some conjured up fantasy that is never going to appear. The winners are those who have chosen to go out into this huge, beautiful world of ours and fully savor every moment of our lives, free from the tyranny of those who only want our money and servitude for the purpose of feeding their delusions and outsized egos.

Unfortunately for many, there are avid followers of their faith, and then there are rabid ones.

kBOY wrote: “Unfortunately for many, there are avid followers of their faith, and then there are rabid ones.”

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One of my closest friends here in Salt Lake City is a devout Mormon. He is very knowledgeable, well read, and well versed. He openly boasts about winning debates and converting people. He wins because that is what he has practiced and done all his life. Our friendship has continued for forty years without either one of us giving an inch.

Since he always wins with great scriptural knowledge I resort to ‘alternative facts/tactics:’

I’ll say, “The Spirit is with those who don’t know. The scripture says in Kena Upanishad II.3 --- He by whom it is not known.......knows it. He by whom it is known.......knows it not. It is not known by those who know it. It is known by those who do not know it.”

My friend always retorts, “I don’t recognize those wishy-washy scriptures.”

I’ll say, “It’s okay that you don’t recognize them since knowing doesn’t matter anyway.”

The conversation ends with smirks and a “What’s the point?”

Neither one of us try to enforce an authority trip on the other with ultimatums. At least we have that much respect for each other which preserves the friendship.

Didn't join this forum to hear about posters journeys and agendas. About their beliefs or disbeliefs. Howmidoing invited those who disagree. Debate her with a PM. Can you spare us anymore of the Upansishands. The caste system of Hinduism. One of the most destructive systems on the planet. Can we get back on topic about G-man. The destructiveness of TLWF.