lily rose Wrote:
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> changedagain Wrote:
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> > In reply to
> >
> [forum.culteducation.com]
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> > 579#msg-133579
> >
> > FCSLC Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> > > changedagain wrote: “p.s. Golden State by
> 8
> > > Sunday night.”
> > >
> > > ------------------
> > >
> > > Yes, that’s right. We demand it violently.
>
> > We
> > > demand that it materialize tomorrow night!!
> >
> > Now--if it does not happen as predicted,
> > it's because of the lack of faith/hardness of
> > heart in this forum.
> > I write this in love.
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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>
> Win it for the gimper!

Ha

slandjt Wrote:
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> I haven't checked in for a while and now that I
> have, wish I hadn't. In fact, I'm sickened by
> what I read. We have all been through so much
> already and it's disappointing to see what this
> forum has devolved into. My understanding is that
> this forum is supposed to provide a safe place to
> share about the depravity of the Walk and its
> effects on our lives without fear of yet more
> judgment. I had enough of that in the Walk having
> been judged to be a Jezebel because I wasn't
> submissive to my husband and the elders towards
> the end. I can't stand reading arguments here
> about Scripture and politics. This forum is
> supposed to be a place for people to gain
> understanding, to forgive themselves and others,
> and even perhaps to find some healing and the
> ability to move on after having experienced such
> devastation.
>
> Can we stop with the endless speculation? I
> personally don't think it helps any of us to move
> on.
>
> What about someone who finds this forum for the
> first time? Are they going to be helped by reading
> these posts?
>
> Please feel free to disregard, dislike or do
> anything else you'd like to with what I've said
> above. I felt the need to say these things and so
> I did.
>
> Anyway, I sincerely hope that we can all get back
> on track. To that end, something has been
> bothering me for a long time. Way back in the day
> when I was a teenager, one of the Walk elders laid
> hands on me and I received the Holy Spirit. I
> spoke in tongues and didn't think much about it at
> the time because it seemed perfectly normal within
> the context of the church.
>
> Through the ensuing years of life's many
> difficulties, I received a great deal of comfort
> from the Holy Spirit.
>
> Or at least I think I did. Now I'm not at all
> sure. Was any of that real? Do you see what I
> mean now about people looking to this forum for
> help? I am many years post leaving the Walk, yet
> memories from that time are triggered by the most
> random things.
>
> Peace to all of you.

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I am glad you checked in slandjt. I think the Holy Spirit is real but I don't think it was the dog and pony show of visions, voices from heaven, prophecies, trips to the future that we saw in the Walk. Cults and deceivers coopt the term Holy Spirit (HS) and exploit it and then they demand not to be criticized for its misuse. My experience has been similar to yours in seeking it for comfort but it does other things to help us and after my prodigal adventure I am only now learning more about the HS. Also, I think it is a mistake for churches to single out and label women in their congregation as a Jezebel. Jezebel was a pagan OT character who worshiped idols and false gods so of course she behaved badly, and there is nothing in the scriptures that refers to a "Jezebel spirit" that is put on women. We (men and women) all screw up. I am sorry that happened to you. Peace to you too.

changedagain Wrote:
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> In reply to
> [forum.culteducation.com]
> 579#msg-133579
>
> FCSLC Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > changedagain wrote: “p.s. Golden State by 8
> > Sunday night.”
> >
> > ------------------
> >
> > Yes, that’s right. We demand it violently.
> We
> > demand that it materialize tomorrow night!!
>
> Now--if it does not happen as predicted,
> it's because of the lack of faith/hardness of
> heart in this forum.
> I write this in love.

O.K.--I take full responsibility for this loss. And I'll make it up to you guys. I have this investment opportunity in a silver mine that is a sure thing. Details to follow.

changedagain wrote: “O.K. -- I take full responsibility for this loss. And I'll make it up to you guys. I have this investment opportunity in a silver mine that is a sure thing. Details to follow.”

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Haggai 2:8:

Wow, say no more. The connection is there. I’m in!!

slandjt Wrote:

> What about someone who finds this forum for the
> first time? Are they going to be helped by reading
> these posts?

It's possible, out of spite, they may join the cult. I hope not. Talk about being counterproductive!
I agree--let's stay with the original purpose, which if I recall, was to examine whether gun control will have any measurable effect in reducing crime. I mean...
Wow--these tangents have really taken a toll on my focus. Sorry about that.

p.s. welcome, slandjt.

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changedagain Wrote:
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> slandjt Wrote:
>
> > What about someone who finds this forum for the
> > first time? Are they going to be helped by
> reading
> > these posts?
>
> It's possible, out of spite, they may join the
> cult. I hope not. Talk about being
> counterproductive!
> I agree--let's stay with the original purpose,
> which if I recall, was to examine whether gun
> control will have any measurable effect in
> reducing crime. I mean...
> Wow--these tangents have really taken a toll on my
> focus. Sorry about that.
>
> p.s. welcome, slandjt.


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"Wow, that Internet argument completely changed my fundamental belief system," said no one, ever.

Psychotic break

There's an interesting post on another strand (listed below our strand) "My time in a new thought cult-reflections" by Julie S who recounts the psychotic break she experienced as a result of her participation in a cult.

I recall a young man in the Walk who was taking meds for mental health issues until he heard a message from JRS that debunked the fields of psychology and psychiatry. After the young man stopped taking his meds he became obsessed with a young woman in the church and the situation became very awkward for the young woman. The pastor at the time, Glen Oswald, intervened and the young man went back on his meds. While JRS never told folks to go off their meds, I think the young man was deeply influenced by what JRS said about psychology and psychiatry. Suicide, depression, psychotic breaks can be one of the destructive effects of cults. Anyway, I thought some of Julie's insights were worth reading.

Shazaam. Haven't checked in for over a week. I caught up on the reading of posts. I think it is good that once in a while it gets a little heated--at the end of the day--we all we carry on holding a candle, saying a prayer, being there for those who escape and hoping for the freedom of those who still suffer under the LW tyranny. It is sad that so many pass away not knowing they were living a delusion not their own. Sad---very sad.

Damn the liars and cheaters and thieves who continue to perpetuate this insanity.

Cloudwatcher Wrote:
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> Shazaam. Haven't checked in for over a week. I
> caught up on the reading of posts. I think it is
> good that once in a while it gets a little
> heated--at the end of the day--we all we carry on
> holding a candle, saying a prayer, being there for
> those who escape and hoping for the freedom of
> those who still suffer under the LW tyranny. It
> is sad that so many pass away not knowing they
> were living a delusion not their own. Sad---very
> sad.
>
> Damn the liars and cheaters and thieves who
> continue to perpetuate this insanity.

Yes