Reepicheep Wrote:
Date: January 06, 2018 11:34AM
the reply was to what acesandates quote below.
Reepicheep gave an excellent reply. I think this quote and reply is worth repeating for all the newcomers to the forum whether or not they have jumped into the active discussions. I have one of many possible examples to disputes Acesandates "feelings"
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> acesandates Wrote:
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> > Lastly, in my experience and belief, I do not
> > believe JRS was a false prophet or false
> ministry,
> > money and property issues be damned. Because
> what
> > i experienced, beginning in the early 70s in
> San
> > Diego, Anaheim, Southgate, Sepulveda was the
> > return of the apostolic anointing.
Reepicheep responded:
>
> Acesandates, you seem to continue to use your
>
feelings as proof of apostolic anointing. Here is
> the test for true and false prophets according to
> Jesus: Matthew 7:15-20. NIV
>
“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you
> in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are
> ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will
> recognize them. Do people pick grapes from
> thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise,
> every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree
> bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad
> fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
> Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut
> down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their
> fruit you will recognize them.>
> >
Those churches were solidly packed, and the
> presence
> > of the Spirit was rich, especially during the
> Feasts.
> > For me, it was a goddamn joy and I'm thankful
> that its
> > spirit went deep into me.
>
> Not sure how the churches being
"solidly packed"
> is proof of truth or anointing. There are many
> megachurches that are packed during multiple
> services every Sunday. Does that mean that they
> are teaching a true word? I doubt it. Of course,
> you can believe whatever you like about JRS, but
> that doesn't make it true. Many people who post on
> this topic here have seen their families torn
> apart and destroyed. A daughter posted about
> reading her mother's diary after she had passed
> away, and of the terrible things that she had gone
> through. People lost their life savings because
> JRS harangued members to invest in the Nevada
> mine, or the camp in Brazil, or Shiloh, or the
> school etc. This is the fruit of TLWF and JRS.
The comments of feeling that "packed services" were proof of an anointing have concerned me
about discernment as has the discernment of the people who 'solidly packed' Megga Frauds such as Benny Hin who is only one example of
solidly packed believers to be preyed upon. How many other TLW's "feel" the same without any real proof- simply a "feeling"?
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Benny HIn Proof of FraudBenny Hinn: PROOF OF FRAUD & SCAM & DIVORCE
joelx.com/pastor-benny-hinn-fraud-scam-divorce/4863
Televangelist Pastor Benny Hinn is a fraud, scam, divorcee, and cheat. Benny Hinn preys on weak-minded people to convince them he can use “faith-healing” to cure their illnesses so that they donate over $100,000,000 per year to support his extraordinarily lavish lifestyle.
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JRS, then Marilyn and Gary did not use the Latter Rain teachings with
"faith healing" to build their empire. ( Yes, Hinn and JRS were involved with Latter Rain- all too many frauds came out of that movement.) They were teaching other significant Latter Rain believes tho'. ( Occult basically means that the teaching is not accepted by the main stream Christianity.)
I will guess that many in TLW did not have time to Benny Hin nor the other 'in the name of Jesus illusionists' fraud who had solidly packed services televised. ( They did not miss anything.) I only watched all these TV frauds because my late father loved to watch them all- and I spent time with my dad. These charlatans were better at their "magic shows productions' than JRS was. JRS used the same techniques and anyone who gets glued to the TV or who attended a 'solidly packed service"
felt something as well.
I find it interesting that many 'religious illusionists" have in common infidelity and live lavish lifestyles. They take from the poor and needy but do not really give anything except highly emotional entertainment. I believe that that is what JRS did. The invisible mantle that M & G claimed was based on the show that JRS put on- much like Benny Hin
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Benny Hin in a NutshellBenny Hinn in Nutshell | Benny Hinn Bible in one hand ...
godinanutshell.com/.../voices-of-honor/benny-hinn.html
Benny Hinn in Nutshell |
Benny Hinn ties to the occult is exposed, fake miracles, fake healing,
greed, and financial money deception. In this video, Trey Smith exposes Benny Hinn Free Mason roots and
occult practices.[
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There are numerous researchers ( I have researched I Latter Rain as well) who have analyzed the teachings of JRS as "occult ties" and there are questionable
financial money deceptionwithin TCLW that has needs legal investigation. (Don't forget that Gary Harves ran with the alleged mantle of JRS and how many people took that word as fact?)