Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Banjo ()
Date: January 11, 2020 12:51PM

Fortunately for me, I was far enough away from the center that I rarely received direct unkindness or worse. Most questions were answered without sarcasm or criticism. But I have heard and believe of the rottenness to the core of the leaders.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: kBOY ()
Date: January 11, 2020 11:36PM

O N I O N

Once again, a revealing glimpse of a side of JRS hardly anyone knew.

As was mentioned previously, the calls for intercession we all survived during the JRS era, that were spun as someone suffering 'Satanic assault', now look more like JRS trying to survive being overwhelmed with his own unresolved guilt.

Deflecting problems onto other sources (be the human or 'spiritual') seemed to be the soup-de-jour we were all fed for decades.

Just one more sad chapter in an anthology of deception and abuse.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: changedagain ()
Date: January 12, 2020 12:12AM

Banjo wrote,
Fortunately for me, I was far enough away from the center that I rarely received direct unkindness or worse. Most questions were answered without sarcasm or criticism.

Hi Banjo,
I'm generally sympathetic (bad word, sorry) to criticism and/or sarcasm if directed toward bullies--not toward those who are busting their ass to serve leadership & and often are living in survival mode.
Yes,you were fortunate to be far away from the center.
Good to hear from you.
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Reepicheep ()
Date: January 12, 2020 12:26AM

Posted by: changedagain ()
Date: January 10, 2020 08:58PM

Onion wrote:
I have always had that in my head when I comment on a nice day. TERRIBLE. Too bad John didn't have therapy because if he had gotten sober and got some help with his rotten conditioning, maybe we all wouldn't have been tormented with the haunting words of a man who was having morning-after guilts with his hangover and who was conditioned to think negatively about himself.


Changedagain wrote:

so true


Thinking back on the JRS that I was acquainted with, I cannot, in my wildest imagination, visualize him submitting himself to receive counseling, therapy or substance abuse intervention. Neither can I imagine him following through with any prescribed program. Sadly, the man was a law unto himself, and always had to be in charge.



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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Reepicheep ()
Date: January 12, 2020 12:27AM

Welcome, Banjo.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Onion ()
Date: January 12, 2020 02:44AM

Reep - My comment about John didn't mean I thought he would willingly get help in any of the areas I mentioned. It was more wishful thinking.

Therapy of any kind was generally frowned on by TLWF. Gary once did a whole message from the pulpit about how bad anti-depressants were. In that area, TLWF and Scientology were twins at job 1 being cult protection along with membership harming.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: changedagain ()
Date: January 12, 2020 03:07AM

Onion wrote:
Gary once did a whole message from the pulpit about how bad anti-depressants were.
I think some people were taking them to see if it would help them cope with the "living word."

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: kBOY ()
Date: January 12, 2020 08:52AM

C H A N G E D

The proverbial 'Christian guilt' was on steroids in TLW, especially following the passing of JRS, which of course, we HAD to be responsible for.

All the decades that followed, we were also responsible for holding back the 'new day', which was just another rehash of yesterday, akin to a nightmare scenario of Groundhog Day, without the humor.

While we muddled along under the burden of guilt, the 'upward flow' continued to 'party hard'.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: changedagain ()
Date: January 12, 2020 09:10AM

good summation, kBOY.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Northerngate ()
Date: January 12, 2020 09:32AM

It seems certain leaders have fantasies of unlimited power and believe they should only associate with special people. Even though they can be charming, their sense of entitlement and lack of empathy is intimidating. Ignoring the needs of those who are giving their lives to them, and triangulating stories among the circle of friends, is CRAZY making!!! And incredibly hurtful.
I have felt the punishment of a leaders poor financial management and discovered he’d taken all I had. Then he humiliated me by blaming me for the losses. There is never any apology and always the feeling that some kind of danger might be lurking around the corner.
At least, that’s how my life used to be about ten or twelve years ago. I’m so grateful for the distance between myself and the terrible leaders who thought it was okay to do these things. Getting out was difficult and staying free from their thinking patterns is ongoing. Every day I become more of myself. More innocent but not naive.
Thanks for letting me share.

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