Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: NancyB ()
Date: June 01, 2019 04:36AM

Shlome's open letter opened the flood gates. Big hugs of gratitude to you dear brave lady - we were never alone

UnapologeticallyJohn832 Wrote:
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> Hello - First time poster, my name is Shalom
> Abrahamson (Caples married name) and I would like
> any support from posters here by going to my
> facebook post in which I publicly shared an open
> letter to TLWF congregation. Support in any way; a
> like, a comment, sharing your own stories and
> abuses, would be helpful in continuing to expose
> the truth of this organization. I have been
> reading this forum for a while now and I know many
> of you and I believe you and I have privately
> supported you, but now I am publicly supporting
> you. Thank you for speaking out on this forum; it
> has and will continue to help me in my life.
>
> "An Open Letter to The Living Word Fellowship
> Congregation from Shalom Abrahamson-Caples
>
> Why am I writing this open letter to The Living
> Word Fellowship (TLWF) congregation?
>
> 1. A real problem exists, even after removing Rick
> Holbrook from the ministry and those in power
> should be held accountable.
> 2. I can no longer carry these secrets and their
> shame and I want to be free of the damage of these
> abuses.
> 3. I want the other girls and women and men and
> children who have also been abused to know that
> they are not alone. I am not being brave, I just
> believe that the truth will set me free and
> hopefully provide a way, a safe way, for others to
> come forth with their truth and be set free.
> 4. To start living unapologetically without
> regrets although I do not know if that is possible
> because exposing this truth is embarrassing to me
> and hurtful to many others. I was too trusting and
> allowed people to control my life decisions that
> in return hurt me and others around me. I was
> fearful and intimidated and even worse, I believed
> they were the only way to God, “Christ in the
> flesh”. I was raised in The Living Word Fellowship
> from age 3-35 yo and I did not know other
> Christian churches or Christian ways, but I am no
> longer fearful or intimidated. I am free.
>
> Please click on the link below to read the rest of
> my open letter..."
>
> #metoo #churchtoo #thelivingwordfellowshiptoo
> #tlwftoo #rickholbrooktoo
>
> [thelivingwordfellowshipthewholetruth.org]

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: NancyB ()
Date: June 01, 2019 04:45AM

changedagain Wrote:
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> maggieb Wrote:
> > I am not able to talk to her about this
> > time and was wondering if anyone on here was a
> > member of the North Hills church (I assume she
> > went to this church because she lived in
> Burbank)
> > around 73-75. What I do know and what helped me
> > discover this cult was that she knew Tony Cox
> and
> > his daughter (I believe they went by the name
> Phil
> > and Ruth while in hiding).
>
> Hi maggieb,
> At least a few regular contributors to this forum
> have disputed some of the claims Tony Cox has made
> in his documentary. They don't find him credible.
> The unfortunate reality is if someone semi-famous
> like Cox (for once being married to Yoko)
> stretches the truth, and it's later exposed, it
> casts doubt on the stories of numerous people who
> suffered horribly under the free rein of sexual
> abusers in TLWF/Walk. I'm sure those that have
> been guilty of sexual abuse and the subsequent
> cover up over decades will be looking at every
> angle to discredit the victims. Having someone
> like Cox embellish the truth is not helpful.
> Expect a counter narrative originating from former
> TLWF leaders to begin circulating. If history is
> any indication, the backlash should be vicious.
> But this is something worth fighting for--so I
> encourage those that have publicly taken a stand
> to stay strong and continue to resist the
> bullying, deceitful tactics that are likely to
> come their way.

Vain glory seemed rather vain to me - more about Tony. I did not find it an accurate depiction of the walk. Glad tho' to see a video clip of a "service".

I do hope a more accurate video is produced that is more coherent and sticks to the "walk" and jrs or M & G vs the flaky things Tony and Yoko floated to and from- my opinion - call me critical spirit.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Reepicheep ()
Date: June 01, 2019 06:53AM

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maggieb
Hello I just discovered yesterday that my mother was a member of this church way before I was born--for about 10 years starting sometime in the early 70s. I am not able to talk to her about this time and was wondering if anyone on here was a member of the North Hills church (I assume she went to this church because she lived in Burbank) around 73-75. What I do know and what helped me discover this cult was that she knew Tony Cox and his daughter (I believe they went by the name Phil and Ruth while in hiding). She also may have attended a Phoenix church in the late 70s early 80s. Given her life's timeline she would have left the church around 1983. I would like to understand my mother's past and understand her more as a person so I am reaching out in hopes someone on here could have potentially crossed paths with her. Thank you!

Welcome maggieb. I'm sure that there are people on this forum who could message you for more info so they can help. I'm asking around too. Best of luck in your quest to understand your mom's background.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: changedagain ()
Date: June 01, 2019 07:06AM

I hope this is not too far-off topic, but just want admit here and now that I never could quite appreciate Yoko's singing. I don't have any personal beefs with her (that I know of), just the singing. Again, even if she was partly responsible for breaking up the Beatles, it was the singing that most effected me.
p.s. I'm no longer really bothered by it, BTW. Time has done its work.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: changedagain ()
Date: June 01, 2019 07:20AM

1,048,942 page views to date...
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: puddington ()
Date: June 01, 2019 08:08AM

He who has ears, let him hear...

[youtu.be]

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: NancyB ()
Date: June 01, 2019 08:15AM

changedagain Wrote:
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> Sociopaths are not burdened by conscience. Anyone
> that stands in their way of getting what they want
> (including escaping accountability) is considered
> expendable.
> Anyway...on that positive note, I wish everyone in
> the forum a pleasant Friday & weekend. :)

Great point changed. You obviously have been studying the characteristic of cult leaders. Knowledge is power.

Happy weekend to you.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: FireWalker ()
Date: June 01, 2019 08:19AM

NancyB Wrote:
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> For those newbies wondering about the long list of
> issues on top of the the breaking news of the
> filing of charges In CA, thanks to Onion who wrote
> it out so succinctly and clearly.
>
> I refer you to posts 699 to 702 for more real gems
> many people never knew- its a few tangled web of
> fraud and lies.

Did the cops finally file charges against perps?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/01/2019 08:22AM by FireWalker.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: NancyB ()
Date: June 01, 2019 08:32AM

Puddington I wish you had warned me to put in ears plugs.

While a video of Yoko Ono screaming like a cat seems a bit off subject I think it puts into perspective the film Vain Glory when Tony Cox says he was searching for god or something like that - Yoko and he were into weird stuff. - Cox time of hiding out with his daughter just did not seem to have a complete perspective of the walk. ) OK- It irritated me.

So really, now credible is Tony's disjointed video.?

I personally would prefer that COX not be taken are a credible source for the world to judge what is going on TLW.

I think we forum members barring the trolls and trouble makers are doing good job of exposing the truth layer by layer and baring our hurts - demonstrating that for the most part the congregation were intelligent, good people. ( Feel free to fix up / correct dispute my statement. I want to be transparent and accurate.)...
... and OUCH YOKO hurt my ears.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: changedagain ()
Date: June 01, 2019 08:37AM

I repent for mentioning Yoko's singing.

note: the last time I repented about something was eight years ago when I bought the wrong treats from Costco for my hound. He absolutely hated them. I don't take repentance lightly.

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