lily rose Wrote:
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> Lettruthcome I think you would do well to follow
> the advice of Cloudwatcher, FCSLC, and puddinton.
> The Austin and the Living Word fellowship may
> share charismatic beliefs about the Kingdom not
> held by most Christians as pointed out in
> Cloudwatcher's post, but unlike most charismatic
> churches, the Living Word Fellowship demands
> unquestioned trust and obedience to Gary as he is
> seen as having an unusual and special connection
> and pipeline to God (this is false and unproven);
> however, belief in this self proclaimed connection
> helps a person become gullible in giving
> themselves over to trusting and obedience to Gary
> for their spiritual welfare. Good for you for
> questioning establishing an associate pastor as a
> mother over the church!!!!!

The mom and dad syndrome? Ha. I had solicitors at my door wanting to tell me about the mother God--maybe it is M communicating from the cloud--after all I am designated watcher LOL



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I made the mistake of trying to connect to what I thought was 'Mom' in the cloud of witnesses, and all I heard back was:
"No wire hangers, ever!"
Someone up there knows my bad habits.

changedagain Wrote:
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> I made the mistake of trying to connect to what I
> thought was 'Mom' in the cloud of witnesses, and
> all I heard back was:
> "No wire hangers, ever!"
> Someone up there knows my bad habits

LOL I wish they had the like buttons on this forum like on Facebook--just a way to respond to posts without having to do all this. RR Moderator what say you?

What is the focus on whether Satan is chained for a thousand years or is running free? If you don't believe the Kingdom is here or you are sceptical if God or Christ exist or you have lost faith, then the whole Satan thing is moot. Really, I see us still giving too much power to the ghosts over us! Some haven't been to a service in 30-40 years! How can this be of importance? How can something from 1979 still have any weight? How can anyone you have no faith in still affect you?

My hope is your healing from injuries done to you will be fast, that the PTSD can be controlled, that you recognize you don't have to give your power to people you have no relationship with.

I don't post much anymore. I don't care what Gary is doing. I don't care that Marilyn died. I don't care what ApCo does. And the people left behind are on their own. They have no qualms in kicking us out or labeling us as nephilim or Jezebel. They are sychophants who bow down to status and money but marginalize those who don't offer that.

I'm sure I'm offending some in this group. But at some point, all this has to stop meaning anything in our lives and we move on.

changedagain Wrote:
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> This is really depressing. What is the point of
> bringing Satan down, if he keeps getting back up
> and returning to his nefarious ways? It's just one
> more thing I have to worry about in the coming
> years.

HEADBANGER NEWS: S t r e t c h i n g the Truth

"Love For The Word"
December 1, 2016

[www.haleokaula.org]

"I am privileged to have spiritual parents—Gary and Marilyn Hargrave—who are always bringing the scriptures alive and nurturing this fellowship of churches." ('Nurturing' is a bit of a stretch.)

"They are a tremendous example of the love for the Word of God and of walking in it." ('Love' is a bit of a stretch in any context here.)

"As we see examples of faith around us, let’s imitate it (Hebrews 13:7)!" (TLW leadership role-models have been conspicuously in short supply.)

TheSarge Wrote:
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> What is the focus on whether Satan is chained for
> a thousand years or is running free? If you don't
> believe the Kingdom is here or you are sceptical
> if God or Christ exist or you have lost faith,
> then the whole Satan thing is moot. Really, I see
> us still giving too much power to the ghosts over
> us! Some haven't been to a service in 30-40
> years! How can this be of importance? How can
> something from 1979 still have any weight? How
> can anyone you have no faith in still affect you?
>
> My hope is your healing from injuries done to you
> will be fast, that the PTSD can be controlled,
> that you recognize you don't have to give your
> power to people you have no relationship with.
>
> I don't post much anymore. I don't care what Gary
> is doing. I don't care that Marilyn died. I
> don't care what ApCo does. And the people left
> behind are on their own. They have no qualms in
> kicking us out or labeling us as nephilim or
> Jezebel. They are sychophants who bow down to
> status and money but marginalize those who don't
> offer that.
>
> I'm sure I'm offending some in this group. But at
> some point, all this has to stop meaning anything
> in our lives and we move on.
>
> changedagain Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This is really depressing. What is the point
> of
> > bringing Satan down, if he keeps getting back
> up
> > and returning to his nefarious ways? It's just
> one
> > more thing I have to worry about in the coming
> > years.

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Your post cracked me up because I have misinterpreted changed too. I know I can't speak for him but I think he was using sarcasm to express his disdain for the LW.

A while back I posted something about Leah Remini leaving Scientology and speaking out about it. It didn't garner any discussion on the forum but I found her expose pretty courageous. I have kind of followed her exit and she continues to speak out and has recently said she "will keep doing battle with the Scientology Church to give the victims the strength to speak and fight back." I think that is what many on the forum are doing here through their participation, and moving on may not be an immediate goal. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.



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kBOY Wrote:
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> HEADBANGER NEWS: S t r e t c h i n g the
> Truth
>
> "Love For The Word"
> December 1, 2016
>
> [www.haleokaula.org]
> d/
>
> "I am privileged to have spiritual parents—Gary
> and Marilyn Hargrave—who are always bringing the
> scriptures alive 10% OF THE TIME WHEN THEY AREN'T BRINGING THEIR OWN CRAPOLA REVELATION WORDS and nurturing this fellowship of
> churches WITH THEIR OWN OPINIONS, GUT FEELINGS AND HUNCHES."

> "They are a tremendous example of the love for CHERRY PICKING the
> Word of God TO CONTROL THE MEMBERS and of walking in DEEP DOO DOO."
>



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lily rose Wrote:

> Your post cracked me up because I have
> misinterpreted changed too. I know I can't speak
> for him but I think he was using sarcasm to
> express his disdain for the LW.

Yeah, I don't put much thought into whether Satan is here or there,..or whatever. That post was my best effort to express disdain toward the topic, in my usual ineffective sarcastic way. I do need to start using the proper emoticon to convey an attempt at satire. The ensuing confusion is wearisome.

260,375 page view to date...
Apparently, there are quite a few people out there that seem to enjoy reading about our gaping wounds.
That said, I will not be satisfied until we overtake that other cult that seems to be drawing more interest. We will prevail!

yeah the whole message changed in the church after Gary imparted oneness, went from Love to submitting to authority so we can all be one.