1. Written by Chuck, on 25-06-2009 23:52

JohnL Look on page 166 in Thomas Willhite's manuscripts. This is the leather bound book one gets when one attends PSI 7. Tom writes, 'You Are God.' The poor man was terribly misguided. He grew up Catholic, didn't know scipture, rode with the Hells Angels, met and married Jane (a Holiday Girl), and bught into the philosophy that "we all our own gods." This leads to selfish behavior. It is very interesting to note that this passage of "You are the universe. You are God," Is omitted from the verbal CD version of this book. There is a gap, just like in Nixon's tapes. Food For Thought.

I found this on another site and laughed my ass off. Does anyone know if the PSI office in LA really closed down? Looking at this post is appears there is alot of back biting. Too bad (NOT!!!!) Here's hoping that PSI goes down the crapper!!!!! That is what I am visualizing (funny huh?).

"PSI Seminars
Posted: 2009-07-18 by dmloera

Jan Kempton
Complaint Rating: 0 % with 0 votes
Company information:
PSI Seminars
11650 High Valley Road, Clearwater, CA 95423
Los Angeles, California
United States
Phone: (707) 998-2222
psiseminars.com

DO NOT TRUST JAN KEMPTON. She took private conversations I had with her an twisted them into a bunch of lies and then embleished those lies into severe allegations against my husband without having any validity or verification - because they are all lies.

Jan is the Los Angeles Basic Coordinator - No wonder the LA office was shut down. No wonder PSI's legal council is denying she is an employ of their company.

Jan's accusing my husband of being unfit around children, when her own boyfriend looks at porn and her husband looks at porn and has hired hookers! Maybe we should be more concerned with the environment her little girl is living in...hmmm. Also this is the greatest form of hypocracy since Jan had her own sons taken away from her by the courts for being such an UNFIT MOTHER. Her son still won't speak to her because of how UNFIT SHE IS. How dare she say anything about anyone else.

Questioning my character and calling me a drunk - Screw you Jan. You were homeless at one point in your life. I'll make sure my attorneys crawl up your history to see if you've ever had a drink or drugs.

Funny how you judge and gossip about me and yet you question my character. If you had concerns regarding me you should have just picked up the phone and addressed them with me. But no, instead you say these filthy things about me. What did I personally ever do to you????????

All of this coming from an employee that works for the seminar that teaches "win-win", "givers gain", "agape love", "see people in their greatness". Jan you're a hypocrite."

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I found this on another site and laughed my ass off. Does anyone know if the PSI office in LA really closed down? Looking at this post is appears there is alot of back biting. Too bad (NOT!!!!) Here's hoping that PSI goes down the crapper!!!!! That is what I am visualizing (funny huh?)."

That is funny

Yeah, people are starting to read the posts on here and other sites with the horror stories of PSI Seminars. People are becoming interested in what their wasting their money on and searching the web on this PSI crap.

Had to laugh at this one!!!!

"Love isn't Enough
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Love Isn't Enough.

Study identifies factors that impact the outcome of marriages after taking PSI Seminars.

July 15, 2009 5:08 AM

Looking for love? Society and culture tell us love cures all and to be truly happy, we need to find the one who "completes us." And once we find love, we marry and then it’s bliss. Right? Wrong!!!!!!!

Well, researchers from the Australian National University report love isn’t what will make us live "happily ever after." The study, "What’s Love Got to Do with It," followed 2,500 couples (married or living together) for six years to see which couples stayed together and why and why couples went to PSI Seminars and divorced.

Here's a rundown of factors that played a significant role in whether those marriages lasted or failed:

• Blending families—20 percent of marriages with kids from prior relationships end in divorce.

• Second/third marriages—90 percent of these couples are likely to separate or divorce.

• Desire to have children—If the women has a much stronger desire to have kids than her spouse, the marriage is not likely to succeed.

• Relationship status of parents—If couples come from separated or divorced parents, 17 percent were headed toward the same result, as compared to 10 percent who come from stable homes and if your new spouse has attended PSI Seminars and leaves his/her first spouse you're likely to separate and divorce also.

• If one spouse goes to PSI Seminars and the other does not.

• If one spouse goes for sex during the barn dance with someone other than their spouse gthe marriage will likely end in divorce.

• If your PSI buddy is a man and you’re a woman, and he picked out your “sexy” clothing for the barn dance your marriage will more than likely end in divorce.

• If you attend PSI7 and bring home a cow turd on a sheet of plywood and try to explain why you would bring home such a thing it will more than likely mean the end of your marriage.

• Money—The root of all evil? Well not exactly, but 90 percent of relationships in which one spouse attended PSI Seminars while paying for the program behind the other’s back ended in separation or divorce.

Is there anything that won't send us to divorce court? The study identified these as non-issues in the success or failure rates of those studied:

• How many kids a couple has

• Whether or not the wife is employed

• Number of years the couple is employed

• And NEVER EVER attending PSI Seminars

In the examination of marriage and relationships, other studies have suggested that we may be predestined to fail or succeed but if you go to PSI Seminars it is a guaranteed that your marriage will FAIL!!!!.

While there are a lot of factors contributing to success or failure of a marriage it seems like common sense is left behind after attending a PSI Seminars Program so be prepared to get DIVORCED.

Many will ignore the warning and go anyway so follow the strong scent of money to the PSI Bank and you too can have all the LOVE money can buy; Remember: PSI is the best love money can buy. (as long as the money lasts.)

Forgo logic and create your own reality and you too can ruin your life. The reasons we are drawn to another person are sometimes curious. Factor in the realities of life and the journey involved in a relationship, and the reasons we stay together are even more mysterious and complicated unless of course you’re involved in PSI Seminars. So get those divorce papers ready!!!!! Because if the one you love attends PSI Seminars that's the only thing left. DIVORCE PAPERS.

Here's another one who lost his wife to PSI

"10th wedding anniversary, 07/24/2009.
PSI Seminars complaint

07/24/2009;

I woke up this morning and realized that this would've been my 10th wedding anniversary. I lost my wife five years ago after she became involved in psi seminars. I would go into detail, but my story seems to mirror pretty much the other stories listed on this site and others, therefore I won't bore you with a long dissertation. I can tell you that there isn’t a day that goes by that I don't think about her and wonder if she's doing okay. It took me a long time to get over this loss, but usually the holidays and anniversaries bring it back to the forefront of my mind. I lost my life, my love, my heart, my soul, my soul mate. Something I could never replace. To my wife; happy 10th anniversary."

Well it looks like PSI posted the “Methodology” for the Basic Seminar. It’s based on 35 years of experience? It explained nothing about their Methodology. This is nothing but circular wording; claiming everything yet saying nothing.
This is the link [www.psiseminars.com]
This is what it says
“COURSE METHODOLOGY
The PSI Basic methodology is based on more than 35 years of experience and designed to introduce students to foundational principles of personal growth and human potential.
EXPERIENTIAL LEARNING
The course uses an experiential learning approach, a model that fosters an environment of active participation throughout the program. Many of the exercises include the entire group's participation, and many exercises require working in small groups. By working in a group dynamic students are able to fully explore the exercises with the ability to receive immediate feedback and apply it to their lives.
GROUP SCHEDULE
The PSI Basic course is approximately 30 hours spread out over four days.
• Thursday: 6:15 p.m.-midnight
• Friday: 6:00 p.m.-midnight
• Saturday: 10 a.m.-7:30 p.m.
• Sunday: 9 a.m.-7:00 p.m.
• Class times are approximate”
The class times are approximate? These times are flat out a lie. The class ran like this:
Thursday: 5:00 PM to past midnight
Friday: 5:00 PM to past midnight
Saturday: 7:00 AM to 7:00 PM
Sunday: 7:00 AM to 5:00 PM
Tuesday: 5:00 PM to 7:00 PM The debriefing
Wednesday: 5:00 PM to 8:00 PM The Graduation, or in other words the SALES PITCH.

Damn, it seems I have a following: I found this on another site I "troll."

"Steve, Steve989, John Doe and all the others.

Steve, Fred, Bill and John.,.

I am amazed that even now you continue to troll the boards and forums, always using the same story and variations of the same story, I've been watching for some time now, and I surmise that the hardest part for you, is setting up all these accounts with different names (HUH?, sorry, not me. I have always used the same name). Why hide behind so many aliases? (I don't) You think one of these organizations would hire a hit-man and take you out? - I don't think so. (Hahaha I don't think so either.)

I remain on the fence (sorry I fell off the fence some time ago, it seems I can make a decision about this shit) about these 'Seminar' courses/people I get mixed messages (oh really????) about them, what does not help is seeing the same post in a variety of flavors, on a variety of sites (yes, you've been busy...well done!) (Gee thanks) with the same trademark comments and locations.

This takes away validity to your comments. (I really don't think so, but you are entitled to your opinion)

So is PSI a bad thing (yes), are they indeed a mind-warping organization?(Oh hell yes) are they predators (no, not from where I sit) and you the prey? (see previous). What if your Wife left you because of your own flaws/vulnerabilities? (hate to tell you this but I still have no idea why she left) My wife left me after 8 years and three kids later, and guess what? a lot of it was my fault (then shame on you), as a human being for errors in what I assumed to be a caring and loving relationship. Life happens (yes it does), We divorced and I will pay child support for many long years to come. (So did you cheated on your wife while attending the PSI Barn Dance?)

So what?, this is important, I moved on (so have I), I took a step back and accessed my life (actually so did I) and I made changes within myself (I did too), for myself. I didn't go after the guy she had an affair (Oh I see, she cheated on you after attending the Barn Dance) with and took her away from me, I moved on.. You should too, how much time and effort will you ultimately spend trolling the boards (don't know, this is a hobby for me), writing your words and then what!? all these organizations will still be around when you and I are worm-food (funny you should mention "worm food.")

I have read, and read, yin and yang, good and bad, I think the important part of all these complaints and judgments is YOU, before you (sorry, I didn't go) went to these 'Seminars' or before your partner, your mother-in-law or Grandpa went, is their mind state before they joined any one of these life-improvement courses. (Sorry but you lost me on that one guy.) Weak-minded people will always seek, the winning lottery ticket (Be it in love, life, money or all three!), those who are strong minded will seek to fortify, to reinforce what they already have, and that's not a crime in either cases. These 'Seminars' simple bring out and amplify what was, and is already inside you (so you;re saying this was already inside my wife? are you a doctor?)- be that good and the light or Evil and the Darkness, be it a quiet mouse or be it loud roar.. (What the fuck are you taking about here?)

The point is ... do you need to pay $500, $3000 or $7000 for someone to tell you what you already know? yes? Hey, here's my number, gimme a call! No? well I wish you, like myself all the luck and health that you deserve, life's a bitch, then you die. (Would you please make up your mind!!!!!)

At the end of the day, do you want to lead (sorry, but I am an army of one sport) or do you want to follow, will you pursue this all your life (yes if I have too, like I said this is my hobby) and when it buries you what will you have achieved? (Hopefully I will see the end of the PIss and Shit Institute, I've already heard the LA Office has closed and the last basic only recruited 10 newbie) I know it is painful (Do you really?), I lost everything.. and I mean financially, emotionally and spiritually and it put me on the streets for several years, but you know what...

I survived, (I have too) I would not surrender (Ah, and you expect I should surrender? I think not), I would not give in and I have to tell you there were some scary times (no shit, really?) and situations I would not wish upon anyone but I made it through, I came out the other side, and finally now almost 5 years (oh, it took you 5 years to come to this realization?) later my life is finally coming together because I know myself now, I knew myself then and that's who got me through all this.... myself."

I chose to expand my knowledge of this group and other LGAT's in order to understand them so that I could fight them. This is my venue. If I save one marriage from the PSI Dream machine I will find that reward in itself. Sorry your wife cheated on you; mine didn't. But she destroyed her life with this crap. Her life and the lives of my daughters. My daughters I hope will recover; only time will tell. Do you like explaining to your three children why your wife cheated on you? Try explaining to them their mother left them for a group of strangers. Try explaining to them that their mother no longer cares about them. She's more interested in staffing the basic and spending money (money she does not have) to get back to "the RANCH."

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My ex-wife had her journal from the PSI Ranch and she had written about "the sharing" and how it effected her staring into the eyes of complete strangers.

They do a similar exercise in the Landmark Advanced course and your standing just inches away from the person looking straight into their eyes for a very long time while the instructor goes on about how the persons eyes are those of your parents, siblings, spouse, lover, etc. Parts of the exercise have you look into the class and make eye contact with others.

During this exercise one of my friends had a break down and started crying. There were quite a few others sobbing too. This is a very intense exercise. Afterwards when people from the class talk to each other it is usettling to watch because of the intensity of the eye contact.

There is a similar method used during the called "The Final Step Retreat", brought to you by Larry Crane and the Release Technique crowd. Towards the end of the seminar, people are told to sit across from one another and gaze into each other's eyes, fixated until you feel no more "resistance." Honestly, I found that whole experience to be quite unsettling. It may be an effective technique but should only be used between people you already know or trust.

Someone emailed this to me a couple of weeks ago. For some strange reason I thought I had seen this before. This guy was really down probably more so than I was when my wife left me.

1. Written by Wayne, on 08-07-2009 21:10
PSI wore me out. I gave my all until exhaustion then was disgarded with the garbage. To heal, I wrote this Limerick.

There was a woman named Shelli,
She hit poor old Jesse in belly.
She left him for dead,
A gash in his head,
Then swiftly drove home to watch telly.
Shelli then married O’Kelley,
They went trippin’ off to the deli.
Before she was fed,
He got up and fled,
Jane’s belly then giggled like jelly.
Mackenzie is glad for the switch,
She said “Dad, she’s always a bitc*,
You’re better than that,
To take all that crap,
She’d leave you alone in the ditch.
Jane plumped to a terrible fat,
Ate cookies and drank from a vat,
Jen saying “Get thinner,
I’ll cut off your dinner,
And wrestle you down to the mat.”
Jane’s boys are a running amok,
They’re plucking fresh cherries to f***.
And Jane doesn’t care,
She says it’s all fair,
You’ll be the next PSI queen with luck.
Mark and George have plenty of gals,
they share them all with their old pals.
Brett, Carson and Tim,
Have vigor and vim,
While doing it over at Val’s.
Tom Willhite was always a king,
He wore a gold eagle as ring.
And got you to pay,
While working away,
And many a women had fling.
Tom ripped off old Alexander,
Plus William Penn Patrick yes sir,
He claimed as his own,
He charged to the bone,
And bought jewelry and velvet and fur.
Jane donated to Hilary,
If only Penn Patrick could see,
All those she would save,
He’d turn in his grave,
And make them all drink their own pee.
Bob Proctor is out on the take,
They always come up to the lake,
And shell out some more,
For Ropes Course and lore,
While knowing full well it’s a fake.
So off to the noisy barn dance,
You’re partner says you’ll wear her pants,
And just for a whim,
Although you’re a him,
Would rather sit on pile of ants.
Substandard bunkhouses to stay,
Uncomfortable beds which to lay,
Community sinks,
No privacy stinks,
Where roaches and bugs go to play.
Jane/Shirley love buying new shoes,
Plus drinking 5 bottles of booze,
While laughing at you,
Cause you’re in their zoo,
An *** they think you are to loose.
PSI World is a big money cult,
By fleecing your pockets, poor dolt,
Are you not aware?
That they do not care,
By keeping you into the folt!
If PSI really cared for the kid,
They’d place on their heads “I AM” lid,
And teach them for free,
Kids of Lake County,
To stop drug use parents that hid.
Some then go to play PLD,
As goal setting grads come to be,
To sign friends all up,
And fill up Jane’s cup,
While she goes on living for free.
Principia ground is all tents,
To beat up your body with dents,
To sleep on the grass,
With bugs up your as*,
In ranch house the chosen they wents.
The women that now run the show,
To male gonads they must go,
They mean there to harm,
The castration farm,
While squeezing them dry of their dough.
Jane said Jenna’s top on the vine,
Tom, Kevin, and Val are sublime,
But Jen will inherit,
And make you then bare it,
To make what is your now all mine.
The concept of givers that gain,
Give up to the point of pure pain,
World peace for the clime,
One mind at a time,
And for them yes the money will rain.
So that is the story of PSI,
Make all of your neighbors to cry,
To force them all in,
thus making PSI win,
While kissing your bank account bye.