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Outside criticism has severe limits. Impacting Landmark is an inside job.
Mmmmmm... and why do you suppose that is ? Because Landmark refuses to attend to any thinking about Landmark that doesn't originate within Landmark ? Isn't that indicative of an.... errr... incestuous dynamic of self knowledge ? Or incestuous something or other...
I am aware that the average Landmark customer has little to no idea of the [i:01b20fe6a5] geneology [/i:01b20fe6a5] of the theoretical underpinnings, nor the chains of being that brought the Landmark "technology", as they prefer to call it, into its' present form... they have no mechanism for analysing the validity of the many assertions that Landmark proffers as revealed truth.... and the Landmark orgsters aren't about to enter into such a discussion...
Becuase IF you walk the cat backwards from Fernando Flores to Heidegger you might have to take into consideration some of Heidegger's extremely questionable affiliations, as in the Third Reich, and the equally unsettling possibility that Heidegger's philosophy was interwoven with the philosophical fabric of the Third Reich's belief system(s)...
Fernando's restatement of Heidegger... and for Flores Heidegger was The Man...( Wikepedia's entry on Flores isn't even skeletal, it is a microscopic sketch of the man and his thought processes and his intellectual legacy... I honestly cannot believe that any serious thinker would even turn to Wikepedia to enlarge on this subject.... it would be like asking for the Classic Comics version of War and Peace....) well, having gotten that off my chest... Erhard and Flores were joined at the hip conceptually, and it was Flores who introduced much of the vocabulary that animates Landmark expression today.... what nobody at the helm seems to have stopped and asked was, what if Flores was fundamentally in error ?, What if Flores' beliefs about the function of language and it's relation to action were broken at their foundation ? What if Heidegger himself was an incompetent philosopher ? What if Heidegger's theories were hopelessly misguided... or worse, what if they were essentially fascist, essentially narrowing, or beyond that, imprisoning to the mind ? What then ?
So my question is, did any of the EST crew, any of the Landmark ( to use the term charitably ) "thinkers" , any of the people actually responsible for the ways, shapes and forms of EST thought and Landmark "thought" , actually perform [i:01b20fe6a5] due diligence [/i:01b20fe6a5] on Flores' ideas ? Did they consider the implications of swallowing such a large dose of a philosopher that was intimately associated with Nazism ? Or did they buy in because Werner Erhard was enthusiastic about Flores and Erhard had a Diktat in place that his follower were supposed to "recreate" him [i:01b20fe6a5] without critical reflection [/i:01b20fe6a5]. If Werner Erhard bought the Heidegger-Flores model, then so, By God, would they.
Darker ? I dunno. What's "darker" mean to you ?
Well Alex, in response to your:
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Outside criticism has severe limits. Impacting Landmark is an inside job.
I'll let Werner answer for me.
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So What ?