Imagine, they are now trying to sell "the Perfect Matrimony" on Amazon. Yet in the first few pages there is a disgraceful attack on homosexuals and homosexuality, saying they are doomed to hell, failures, could never achieve spiritual realisation etc.
Have you also noticed that they won't let you look in the book on Amazon? I bet that's so a casual browser for spiritual books won't find attacks on homosexuality and be put off about buying it.
I agree. I noticed one particular site, based in the USA, closed their public forum a few days after a particularly interesting post seemed to expose the plagiarism of VM Gomez, (SAW) and the followers or defenders seemed to justify it until they actually got involved with the discussion and their questions were answered. It appeared then that one of the senior teachers saw the danger of further discussion and giving a predictable response, ( Samael is great and we don't care what you think) locked the topic and changed the whole structure of the site with no more public forum.
For the post just google " the practice of zen 1959".
Yes, I saw that thread. The final day of posting in it is March 16; the forum closed on March 25. I saved it as a PDF because the moderators are going to extract the "useful posts" and take the rest of it offline. If I wasn't in the middle of writing projects I would spend as much of my waking hours examining the threads and saving them. I'm burning up my free time just to reply to this thread, as you brought up a very relevant point.
There is also a very neat thread which almost immediately predated the announcement of the closure of the forums dated Monday Mar 21, 2011 at 3:33 am entitled "What will it mean to the gnostic movement if ..." the body of the message reads "...hercobulos (sic) never shows up ?" A student replied:
I have never investigated or read about this subject deeply, but I do know that the end times are mentioned in many, if not all, of the world's spiritual traditions. Nothing can go on forever. Even those with no spiritual inclinations can see that the world is in trouble. The world economy is faltering, natural disasters are everywhere, and many nations now possess nuclear weapons in great numbers. When the end does come, I doubt anyone will care to debate whether it matched his or her expectations of the events. :?
If you would like to read more about what the Master himself wrote, perhaps this will be of use to you:
Peace and the Third World War
The original poster replied:
"but are all the troubles of the world man made / gov. made or is there something real wrong going on."
No one else has replied to that and it hasn't been locked (in order to not raise suspicion, I presume). I recommend looking it up before it gets taken down. Several hours later at 1:28 pm, the announcement of the forums comes up, citing that the forums have ceased to fulfill their purpose. I bet they panicked after seeing a thread that questions them like that. Someone replied on the announcement thread:
Ah it must be for the best.
The brainwashing has done its work. There must be some "divine" purpose to closing the forums, according to all those followers.
It sickens me to read things like "When the end does come..."; it's almost like they derive pleasure from awaiting the end of the world. I remember feeling that very same thing under that stuff. I also remember starting to feel very bitter against regular people, but I no longer feel that way since I've learned effective coping mechanisms to safeguard against the emotional states that brought me to find the "gnostic" teaching and actually speak to everyday people; they aren't as bad as I thought. :)
I'll post anything else that's useful if I can find time.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 04/17/2011 05:53AM by Lone_Flame_of_Eternity.