There is no "pet idelogy" in forums like this, its just people posting their experiences and factual analyses. There are all kinds of diverse opinions all over the place.
The "Anti Cult cult" is another fraud idea put forward by cult apologists, who are trying to distract people from looking at the actual facts and evidence. [
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But the subject is about cults, sects, LGAT Gurus, and the analyses of them. Most people understand that, so they don't try and shove their own philosophical or religious beliefs down other peoples throats. What a concept.
The answer to the question about personal beliefs...its none of your business, and its not relevant, as its not about religious beliefs, or even weird beliefs.
Its another attempt to distract with a straw-man, by trying to shift focus away from the facts being revealed about the Gurus and their systems.
These threads have been crawling with members of certain groups/cults who would love to disrupt all sane discussion with internet trolling. Troll (Internet) [
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They have been caught in endless bald faced lies, and trying to reframe how their sect is perceived, and cover up the facts.
I did NOT ignore the baited question from Dr. Logic about cognition/emotion. I answered it.
But to compare the deceptions and lies of cult/sect/LGAT leaders, to "traffic road rage" is a totally misleading and deceptive analogy, which was being done on purpose. This is not a Byron Katie LGAT seminar where a vulnerable person answers trick questions meant to mislead them.
Many sects/cults use that exact technique, to ask vague leading questions, to try and preframe where they are trying to lead the person.
If Dr. Logic has something to say, why not just say it? Why the attempts at mind-games?
If you want to worry about ignored questions, ask Dave Lakhani [
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The reason for using the name Dr. Logic is its generally a good idea to use the name of someone being addressed when posting online so people know what the subject is! More distraction, why not get to the point?
Gurus are NOT targeted based on spiritual beliefs, that is bullshit, and is actually the opposite to the truth. They are targeted due to their outrageous hypocrisy and deception.
The targeting is based on the deception, lies, criminal behavior, money-laundering, bankrupticies, deaths...coming from the alleged spiritual guru, who is using a bait and switch to dupe people. Their so-called spiritual salespitch is mainly a fig-leaf they are hiding behind, as have been PROVEN time and again.
They pre-frame a prospect to step into their GREASED CHUTE...they lead the prospect by the hand into their sales-system... which can't look like a sales system [
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Dr. Logic, if you have something to say, then say it.
Leading questions, or vague generalities are useless.
If there is a specific New Age Guru who you believed has been wrongly critiqued, then say who it is. Who is it? Byron Katie?
Dr. David Baxter is promoting Byron Katie on his website, and shows an interest in CBT. [
forum.culteducation.com] Either David Baxter is dangerously naive about the real world outside his office doors where mega-saleswomen like Byron Katie run amok and make millions, or perhaps he secretly supports Byron Katie, but doesn't want to come out and say it.
That is then being naive, or dishonest, not very good options.
But vague generalities are useless. That is why these threads focus on specific Gurus and sects, and FACTS, evidence, proof, research.
There is literally 1000x more proof in these threads about Byron Katie, than in all of her marketing materials put together. Name 1 actual provable fact put forward by Byron Katie, there is nothing by her design, its just Stories...hypno-Stories.
The idea that this is about differing philosophies is a lie, its a fraud, its deception. Its actually NOT about that, very clearly. Its about the deception being used, and the wolf hiding behind the sheepish sounding philosophy in the advertising material.
Most of the self-promoting New Wage entrepreneurs rise to the top of the comercial heap, due to their intense greed, ambition and aggressive persuasion tactics. That is called factual reality.
The only way to figure it out, is to analyze specific Gurus and their systems.
So they try to defend against that analysis by going into vague randomness, which is called misdirection.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/03/2010 07:57PM by The Anticult.