Actually Seeking just about everyone here thought you were still involved, one person thought you had left but it had not really left you. I entertained the later possibility to some degree. So for argument sake how about we give you the benefit of the doubt.
You are in the position you are in because of the personal positions you took in this forum, which you should take account for. You have mostly parroted the message that we have all heard from the Gnostic Movement and Mark Pritchard time and time again.
This is discussion is not only critical of the Gnostic Movement based on individual experiences but also based on the message that is preached about the greater world and society, I think that has been clearly stated. Your failure to to respond to those points really weakens your case. So you are failing in your efforts to " show anyone hearing about the gnostic movement for the first time, that not everyone has had the experiences you speak of", in case of any reasonable person.
You wish that there was peace between people no matter what their beliefs are or what organization they are or are not part of. Well what do you make of Mark Pritchard aka Belzebuub demonizing all other spiritual paths as being the created or promoted by negative entities? Or how he said that those who go against the Gnostic Movement are people who have failed on the path and have scribbled up spiritually? Those kind of statements seem like a lot of hatred to me.
Anyways you are not accounted for what Mark says but you are accountable for what you say. I think there are two major beefs that we have with you here. One applies all of us here and all ex students and the second applies specifically to me and is quite personal.
First of you are re-victimizing everyone who was once involved in the Gnostic Movement, including yourself, when you repeat the nonsense about it being the students fault when the teachings are not helpful to them or they find them to be unacceptable. I would recommend you take another look at the criteria of a cult to see how common this behaviour is. In the case of the Gnostic Movement it is a reflection of the absolutist, totalitarian ideology inherent in the teachings. Apparently the techniques taught by Mark are the greatest meditation techniques ever devised by the human race, somehow they are better than everything devised by any of the meditating cultures around the world so if they don't work for you it is your fault. Oh please what a load of bull. Sounds like a lot of compensation for a crappy program. It also fits right in with his Marks mindset that people that fail the program are going to be on the spiral path towards hell and are no one spiritual antiGnostics (hence the name that I picked).
I am a case in point of someone who did not leave because they were too lazy to do the work. Up until the day I finished reading Secret Knowledge Hidden wisdom and realized that is was nonsense and immoral. In no way shape or form have I stopped being spiritual, in fact I am far more spiritual than when I left, I just reject the Samael Aun Weor teachings and I feel they got in the way.
My second grievance with you is personal and involves what you said about Jordan. Ok what I said about my personal experiences with him are subjective and someone less relevant for what we are discussing here. He is after all just one of the lackeys fallowing and worshiping the psychopath Pritchard. What we can judge him on his attack on me here at the Rick Ross forum. As Keir helped to point out he was attempting to guilt me into silence. Most importantly nothing personal about him or anyone of the Toronto centre had been said before he made his attack. From his post I am very justified in my position.
It appears that you have never seen what he actually posted. Look at it and then respond. [forum.culteducation.com