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Techno Tutor, Perfect Mind Technologies, Desteni
Posted by: Sandman ()
Date: March 09, 2013 10:05PM

Here's a summary of background information and links about Techno Tutor.

Techno Tutor is an allegedly stolen piece of software and is apparently the same as the previously named Desteni Vocabulary Purifier or Quantum Vocabulary Purifier and sold by "Desteni Education", a company run by Desteni member, Cameron Cope... Also sold by the Desteni group in 2009: [web.archive.org]
- [vocabulary-purifier.software.informer.com]

Posts at this forum began in April 2010: [forum.culteducation.com] in which Cameron Cope threatened legal action and failed to carry it out. More at these links:
[forum.culteducation.com]
[forum.culteducation.com]
[forum.culteducation.com]
[forum.culteducation.com]

Cope continued to attempt to distance his business, Desteni Education from Desteni [forum.culteducation.com]

.... More at at this post dated July 03, 2010 from sbb: [forum.culteducation.com]

On July 23, 2010, Ferdi Poolman of Readers and Leaders [www.readersareleaders.co.za] alleged that the original software was written by him and a team of other people, and that his brother, Bernard Poolman of Desteni stole or copied it from them - [forum.culteducation.com]

August 16, 2010: A video was made in response to Ferdi from Bernard Poolman in which he denied he'd stolen the software but confirmed certain details relating to his brother and the software in question:
[forum.culteducation.com]
further commentary
[forum.culteducation.com]
[forum.culteducation.com]

New Earth Publishing sells Techno Tutor for €2,490 whichn is approx $3,237 [www.newearthpublishing.de]

Techno Tutor is owned by Perfect Mind Technologies of Houston, Texas, run by members of Desteni, Darryl W. Thomas, Cameron Cope, Katie Conklin, Rebecca Dalmas and others such as Valentin Rozman and Avery Williams. Desteni is not mentioned in Techno Tutor marketing materials and likewise Techno Tutor is not mentioned or sold at Desteni websites, but almost everyone endorsing Techno Tutor is a member of Desteni.

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Re: Desteni
Posted by: freespeech4tw ()
Date: March 10, 2013 07:41PM

Let us not forget the very obvious fact that, if this program actually had any language-improving effects at all, the members of Desteni would not suffer from collective dyslexia.

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Re: Desteni
Posted by: exposethelies ()
Date: March 13, 2013 03:34AM

Hi All

Anybody who is so inclined to see the software

[www.4shared.com]

Here is is it is zipped , when unzipped it can be loaded with free software such as

Virtual clonedrive from Slysoft

Check , the word lists , spelling errors etc

See if the word lists actually match your school grade 1-12 and 3 years university

And it wasn't copyable ha! another lie

If you somehow think this software is for you contact for the latest version , its the "real" deal !!

[www.readersareleaders.co.za]

And if this does not suit your needs

Google Reading Trainer , or Vocabulary Builder and purchase or Free from a company that has
A reputation
A money back gaurantee !!
Real teachers , with degrees etc.
I am sure you understand .... smiles :)


Techno Tutor is a WAY overpriced package of lies and techno babble and a front for the Desteni Cult

Some Sales people have been trained by Kevin Treudeau , who is a convicted fellon with no morals
(about to goto court again .....for misrepresentation )

And if you have just been caught , check with your local government , for buyers remorse or your credit card for fraudulant refunds

Oh and by the way , they closed the office in surrey , gee i wonder why !

Cheers .....Your Welcome

And this is my opinion from firsthand knowledge , i post this to help others to not be deceived

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Desteni, Techno Tutor, Perfect Mind Technologies
Posted by: Sandman ()
Date: March 13, 2013 06:46PM

exposethelies:
That is great, some good work to get the truth out there about this Techno Tutor Desteni scam -- but you have to sign up and log in to the 4shared site before downloading that file and then download and install a virtual CD/DVD drive in order to run the program. I don't think many people, myself included, are going to want to have to bother with that.

It might be more effective if you could just post some screenshots. Is that possible?

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Equal Money System, Quora.com, Desteni, Bernard Poolman
Posted by: Sandman ()
Date: March 20, 2013 07:16AM

Desteni and their Equal Money System have been causing a controversy at social networking / question and answer website, Quora.com. See this link to the Equal Money System topic: [www.quora.com]

IN the past couple of days it has died down a little but now all the questions appear with the heading: "Equal Money System: Distribution Restricted Topic -- Quora Moderation currently reviewing"

Bernard Poolman now says it was all some kind of "experiment" started by Desteni to expose trolls and certain types of people like academics loyal to "the system"... [creationsjourneytolife.blogspot.com]

Desteni members on Quora are denying the anti-Semitism and Hitlerite parts of the Desteni material. They only get away with that to some extent because in 2011 some of their videos were deleted by YouTube and they deleted articles on their own website. Anyone interested can find the documentation of Poolman's Hitler-worshipping in earlier parts of this thread....

Maybe contributors to Quora would also be interested to read about more of the Desteni scams like Techno Tutor and the Equal Life Foundation. Then all they need to do is refer to page 126 of this thread [forum.culteducation.com] onwards.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/20/2013 07:17AM by Sandman.

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Desteni, Hitler, Quora, Equal Money System, Bernard Poolman
Posted by: Sandman ()
Date: March 21, 2013 09:42PM

Continuing from the last post...

By pretending that the controversy with Desteni that occured at Quora.com was a deliberate social experiment carried out by Desteni, Bernard Poolman reinforces an us and them situation by informing his group members that they must recognize that when people on Quora criticize Desteni it is abuse and hate speech due to brainwashing by "the system".....

Day 329: When Anonymous Acted like Hitler on Quora
[creationsjourneytolife.blogspot.com]

Poolman spins some yarn about Desteni being targeted on Quora by one anonymous paid internet troll whom he accuses of committing a crime in South Africa usually associated with racism named Crimen Injuria.

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Bernard Poolman
Now, what is Fascinating about the Internet Troll – is that he stepped right into it this Time. He has tried to link us to Hitler as if we are apparently Nazi’s and I am apparently one that Control Groups, while we have Only Impressed upon people, that Inevitably Hitler will have to be Forgiven if we are to Move-on from our Past on Earth. And that, Hitler have the Same Right to Forgiveness than everyone else, which is obviously, Self-Forgiveness.

Desteni members always say other people should decide for themselves what kind of an organization Desteni is by referring to the material published by them. Here are some of the links at this forum which include more direct quotes from Poolman about Adolph Hitler...

[forum.culteducation.com]
[forum.culteducation.com]
[forum.culteducation.com]
[forum.culteducation.com]
[forum.culteducation.com]
[forum.culteducation.com]
[forum.culteducation.com]
[forum.culteducation.com]
[forum.culteducation.com]
[forum.culteducation.com]
[forum.culteducation.com]

The Desteni Hitler book which was deleted from the Desteni website 2011 : [web.archive.org] - and Videos of Sunette Spies channeling Hitler at DesteniUSA YouTube [www.youtube.com]

As anyone familiar with the history of the 20th Century knows eugenics was at the core of Nazism. Desteni member, Marlen Vargas Del Razo wrote that Eugenics is Best for All Life in Equality [marlenlife.wordpress.com]

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Marlen Vargas Del Razo
Positive and negative eugenics aim at the reproduction among the genetically advantages and lowering the fertility among the genetically disadvantage – all of this has been linked to Nazism and Socialism as well as Social Darwinism in the past, we are here to redefine it as common sense and equal life eugenics.

Advocating this point can lead us once again to a known-link which is Hitler. The sterilization of ‘defectives’ was in his book Mein Kampf and as such it was regarded as ‘evil.’ – I have no problem at all with that either

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Re: Desteni
Posted by: freespeech4tw ()
Date: March 23, 2013 12:48AM

"Day 329: When Anonymous Acted like Hitler on Quora
[creationsjourneytolife.blogspot.com]"

Followed that link ^
Found this:

"Hitler Acted in Self-Preservation. The German people Acted in Self-Preservation. In the Revenge that the Jews are taking on the Germans about this – they are Acting in Self-Preservation."

Excuse me? Self-preservation ok, that's his simplistic, uninformed opinion, but what revenge of Jewish people on Germans? Is this some conspiracy theory I missed?

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Desteni, suicide, Bernard Poolman
Posted by: Sandman ()
Date: March 23, 2013 07:58PM

In the comments section to this blog post: Desteni - La Secta de los Skinhead - Canalizaciones de ANNONAKIS. [losfalsosprofetasdelaconspiracion.blogspot.mx] there is this comment which has been translated by Google:

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Here is the link -> [forum.culteducation.com] <- for those seeking help for their children out of this sect or family who have been members, the trouble is which is in English, but the information provided here is detailed and specific (now go about 100 paragraphs with what they need to know to find out who actually is a cult), brings out all the activities that are carried Desteni breaks out and of course they promote illusions as'' absolute truth''.

I agree, it is a cursed sect, I am a former member and tell them all the tools that show there are garbage, is certainly mind control. It's as simple as realizing that the purpose and constant motivation speaking there are to become one and the same with the leader of the sect, is a tyrant who believes that love is crap, wants to eliminate morality, wants eliminate family endemoniza everything is out of Desteni, to masturbation, any positive or negative thinking.

Again here with channels that present important information about Desteni, also in English. They are people who have fought against this destructive and dangerous move.

[www.youtube.com]
[www.youtube.com]
[www.youtube.com]
[www.youtube.com]
[www.youtube.com] -----> In Spanish
[www.youtube.com] -----> In Spanish

The reply to that comment reads:

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Anónimo15 August 2012 19:19
Thank God you were able to get through this, our friend took his life, his family and friends are devastated by this .. It was a beautiful human being, but that it ended, unfortunately .. Take care and be strong ..

The next two comments read:

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Anónimo15 August 2012 15:04
my amigOoo is suicidOoo to causaa of estaaa malditaa sectaaaa ... quisoo out he ... peroo nosee that pasoo and suicidoOO to vecess elloss piensoo that did not want to be harassed and Muchoo salieraa ... and what hizoo esoo ... Erm difudaaa esperooo ke, ke muchoo hurts to lose a causaa of estoo amigoo!!

Anónimo15 August 2012 19:15
If our friend took his life because he could no more, all notes and writings he left speaks of this sect where you away from your family, and brainwash you, please people, alert their children, family and friends about this, Stay tuned to see what their children, if they see a friend or family member needs help, help him not be left alone because the safest esque not help yourself and do not be helped by others, we must insist, never forget you friend, I'm sorry not to have known they were gone, I'm sorry you've been a victim of this sect that is desteny never forget you.

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Techno Tutor, scam, Desteni I Process, Bernard Poolman
Posted by: Sandman ()
Date: March 26, 2013 09:50PM

A long list of questions about Desteni and the Equal Money System is accumulating at Quora.com, like Bernard Poolman: Is Bernard Poolman upset that non-Destononian Quorans are calling out his cult/scam? [www.quora.com] Another question: Is the Desteni I Process at all related to Bernard Poolman's previous computer education software Power Education? [www.quora.com]

A link to an article is given: [ings.ds9.org.za] It was published in 2004 and shows how Power Education / Mind Technology was a scam.

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Their web site is awful, not to be rude or anything but you would think that a software company could produce a better site? I am not a great html coder myself, but mine is not that bad. Also their site is not terribly informative in terms of how much their software costs, or what OS you need in order to make use of the packages. They have lots of rubbish about how their packages will improve your life... in fact they reckon that people who are illiterate usually land up killing themselves due to depression and they are making products that will prevent this. Read here for all of it, the last section at the bottom of the page talks about illiteracy leading to suicide, there is so much emotive speech and "propaganda" that you want to vomit. Anyway, they seem to target children with learning disabilities, and through computers and use of their software they claim that children dramatically improve. They also site lots of testimonies to back this up.

This post [desteni.co.za] at the Desteni Forum reads:

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Hi to all fellow Destonians,this is my personal intro by Greg Klette

How i got to Desteni

Well it was back in 2003/2004 when I first met Bernard and Esteni .I was at a loose end and I was invited by a friend, Ceanlia Vermeulen to a demonstration of the educational software programme that Bernard and his gang had developed. The demonstration took place back at his house in kloof, durban.I was suitably impressed by the software and its possible benefits to learners .At the time I was selling computers and cctv cameras, so this really sounded like a new and interesting challenge to market the product to schools and to then follow up and sell the packages to the students/learners.
At the same time I was also exposed to Bernard’s work and research on mind constructs, it was all new to me, very interesting but quite scary as I was not ready for it ,so I didn’t get involved.

Ceanlia Vermeulen [ae.linkedin.com]
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Power Education & IQ Smart Educational Software
February 2002 – June 2006 (4 years 5 months)

Full time involvement with Power Education and IQ Smart by Mind Technology: - conducted training workshops to students, parents & consultants. Compiled, handed out and presented Power Education training manuals and training and educational software: training manuals and training workshops.

It seems that Bernard Poolman has a long history of being involved in scams to do with educational software and "mind technology". The current one is Techno Tutor, which is not publicly acknowledged by the company as being associated with Poolman's name.

[techno-tutor.com]
[www.facebook.com]

TechnoTutor has been discussed in its previous forms earlier in this thread but more recently from this post onwards: [forum.culteducation.com]

June Roca of Desteni writes [juneroca.com]

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L and I left last from Cameron’s place. The rest of the Destonians left earlier. It was about 7:30 pm alreay when we left because he showed us how to earn money from the techno-tutor and showed us how to assess our reading speed using the software and how it can be assist in SRAT.

That's Cameron Cope of Desteni / Techno Tutor. SRAT stands for Structural Resonance Alignment, which is part of the Desteni I Process.

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Equal Life Foundation, Desteni I Process, eqafe.com
Posted by: Sandman ()
Date: April 07, 2013 10:56AM

A new video on YouTube asks questions about the Desteni Equal Life Foundation (which has been discussed previously at this forum in the last few pages of this thread)...

Desteni Equal Life Foundation - Scam?
[www.youtube.com]


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Equal Life Foundation manages finances of the Desteni group of South Africa. Equal Life Foundation is legally registered as a Non-Profit Company but it sells products for the profit of its members using affiliate marketing -- [url
http://eqafe.com/about-affiliate-program[/url]

Equal Life Foundation also takes payments for the "Desteni I Process", which is a form of multi-level marketing: [desteniiprocess.com] Equal Life Foundation appears to exist in order to manage finances of the private profit-making business concerns of the Desteni group, and for no other purpose.

Is Equal Life Foundation a genuine non-profit company?


If not, then a fraud report can be filed with the Companies and Intellectual Copyright Commission of South Africa at [www.cipc.co.za]]

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