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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Josi ()
Date: March 28, 2019 09:52PM

Does anyone know what Chris Butler is doing now? Is he still living in a mansion? Is he still recruiting? Does he still have young people working for pennies to support his life style? Have a daughter that lived and indoctrinated in ashram LOTUS GARDEN in Sacramento after being introduced to him almost 20 years ago. Her personality was robbed from her and of course, we as family are not "good enough" for her since then.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: GODHIMSELF ()
Date: March 29, 2019 09:22AM

Welcome Josi ..So sorry to hear about the lost of your daughter to the Butler cult .
Yes Butler as far as we know lives in Lanikai home in front of the ocean ...as far as we know he u=is still recruiting and did some "initiations " last years .The cult activities are now so secretive no one know exactly who is doing what for Butler .Read this forum backward as much as you can and you will learn much information.Your daughter must have been brainwash by TUSTA KRISHNA who for many years was in Sacramento recruiting for Butler .

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Re: Krishna group in Hawaii
Posted by: Paul T Harrison ()
Date: March 29, 2019 09:20PM

Why are they picking on Gays? Maybe because these groups adopt a hierarchical system and they think gays are easy to bully....

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: GODHIMSELF ()
Date: March 29, 2019 10:00PM

Paul thank you for posting .

Chris Butler is a disciple of Swami Bhaktivedanta who said that "homosexuality activities was demoniac " even as Swami Bhaktivedanta had dozens of his disciples that where homosexuals.Most famous one was Kirtananda Swami(you can google his name )Chris Butler and his main disciple Mike Gabbard aka krishna Katha ( the father of the politician Tulsi Gabbard ) also collected hundreds of thousands of dollars from far-right religious organizations in Hawaii to organize anti homosexual propaganda in Hawaii including a radio show .

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: GODHIMSELF ()
Date: March 31, 2019 11:34AM

Tulsi Gabbard keeps repeating in many interviews that her past views on LGBT was partly due to having been raised in a "socially conservative family ".
When I think of a socially conservative family ..I think of a Southern Baptist regular family or a Mormon family that reject abortions on believe that marriage is only between a man and a woman
The truth about the Gabbard is much more sinister ...Tulsi father Mike Gabbard was a preacher of hate against the LGBT community in Hawaii with the encouragement of his GURU Chris Butler .Mike Gabbard collected hundreds of thousands of dollars from far-right religious organizations to demonize the LGBT community in Hawaii ..there is still a video online of Mike Gabbard preaching is a message of hatred in a church in the mid west .Mike Gabbard who received the name Krishna Katha from Kris Butler is such an hypocrite that to this day he claims that he is a Catholique possibly to keep happy the far right Christian base that he as cultivated for so many years ..Over and over in the last few months including Tulsi video saying that she was SOO SORRY for her past choices regarding talking negatively about the LGBT community ...Its all bullshit as far as I am concern for she still worship her guru Chris Butler who is as far as we know as homophobic as he as ever been ..When the gay and lesbian community in Hawaii where finally permitted to marry in the sate of Hawaii ...Mike Gabbard said
"THIS IS THE SADDEST DAY IN THE HISTORY OF HAWAII " I guess he does not remember a thing about Pearl harbor.Tulsi Gabbard political life is now full of deceits.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: April 01, 2019 04:03PM

Josi- I am sorry your daughter was brainwashed by the Butler cult. It is possible to escape but only if you truly want to, otherwise your life will be hell. The only reason for a devotee's existence is to serve Butler 100%. So sayeth Butler.
One of the first things Butler and his minions do is to convince their hapless victim that their parents/family are "karmis"= meat eating rotten demoniac people.
Only Butler & Co are worthy to serve the blue god Krishna. Butler is still recruiting- beware the "free" Yoga classes and the "free" veggie food (err uhm..toenails) being offered on the islands. It is a hook to ensnare more gullible people. Butler is disguising his "mission" with Yoga.

Paul T. Harrison: It was not just picking on the gays- it went far beyond that.
It was/is far more insidious. This started back in the early 80's when Butler was using his devotees to actually infiltrate the homosexual community in Oahu to gather "evidence" of the depravities and behavior of the homosexuals in and around Oahu. The homosexual scene was secretly being video-recorded to create the tapes that Ian and the other bramacharis were forced to endure day in and day out. It was at the lectures that the rest of the devbots were instructed to vilify the homosexuals. Intolerance was preached and heavily encouraged. Butler wanted to install hatred for gays, it was actively being taught! The group of men who were following Butler's orders were disguising themselves as gays in order to gain entrance to the various gay hangouts. They video-recorded everything they saw. This was tantamount to a direct order to single out a group of people in order to teach hatred and intolerance.
This extreme hatred of gays may have been a Butler thing, a personal vendetta, as well as a carryover from his guru A.C. Bhakitvedanta.
Once Butler was able to get the first generation to hate the gays, it was easy to train their babies and little children to also hate gays. Tulsi trying to apologize now for her past intolerance is a flimsy excuse and just back-peddling. She was entrained to hate from the get-go. Now, three generations in, intolerance is still being instilled.

Butler's guru, A.C. Bhaktivedanta had many homosexuals in his group, in fact, the first devotees of his were homosexuals he had met in Central Park when he first arrived from India. They took care of him and gave him money to start his preaching in New York. It appeared that although ACB did not approve of the homosexual lifestyle, he was quite willing to accept their money. It was always about the money as much for AC Bhaktivedanta as it is for Butler.
Money and Power.
Control.

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Prabupada hated homosexuals but willingly used us anyway
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: April 01, 2019 08:35PM

Allen Ginsberg was an early, prize recruit for ol homophobe Prabhupada.

Allen Ginsberg singing Hare Krishna

[www.youtube.com]

[www.google.com]

All Prabhupada wanted was fame, power and money.

He'd hate you and see you in hell but welcome you as a devotee if you could attract other devotees.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: CarlFig ()
Date: April 05, 2019 11:32PM

How interesting - Don't see Tulsi LOL

PLACE CHALLENGER CHANGE
----- ---------- ------
1. Kamala D. Harris UP 2
2. Bernie Sanders —
3. Joe Biden DOWN 2
4. Pete Buttigieg —
5. Elizabeth Warren UP 1
6. Beto O’Rourke DOWN 1
7. Amy Klobuchar UP 1
8. Cory Booker DOWN 1
9. Kirsten Gillibrand —
10. John Hickenlooper UP 1
11. Julián Castro UP 2
12. Stacey Abrams DOWN 2
13. Michael Bennet DOWN 1
14. Jay Inslee —
15. Michael Bloomberg RETURNS TO RANKING
Falls off ranking: Howard Schultz
Also receiving votes: Tim Ryan

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: GODHIMSELF ()
Date: April 06, 2019 06:01PM

VOX VERITAS VITA DAS

Here are exact quotes of Butler on homosexuality

[www.youtube.com]

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: IanKoviak ()
Date: April 11, 2019 06:57AM

Thx for the youtube post GODHIMSELF. There are many websites discussing this for the truly inquisitive. The origins of Bhakti Vashnavism, modern day cults like ISKCON and many more are readily available in a cursory search. It's not about demonizing the gurus at this point. They themselves were taken full throttle by the jibber jabber ideology. The connection to Tulsi is vivid and while she may not be the most vile candidate, she needs to renounce any connection with these gurus to get passed the modern thinking public. Even after that, she needs to clarify a lot of positions to convince any thinking person of her motive beyond fulfilling her gurus divisive stance.

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