.The Declaration of Independence states
“We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness….”
The mission statement for the United States of America was written by a non Krishna devotee, by a karmi named Thomas Jefferson.
From Srila Prabhupada and Chris Butler's standpoint, Jefferson was a karmi because he did not share their beliefs, not because Jefferson owned slaves, and not because he overworked slaves after he discovered his slave labor industries at Montichello were highly profitable.
In one of Prabhupada's books, here is what he says about karmis, those of us who
do not believe in the Krishna doctrine taught by Prabhupada and Chris Butler.
Note: just now when Corboy wrote "the Krishna doctrine taught by Prabhupada and Chris BUtler" -- writing that sentence demonstrated Corboy's karmi status.
You see a pure devotee regards this as not one doctrine among many doctrines.
A pure devotee does not regard this as something that can be compared with
other, different doctrines such as other sects of Hinduism, secular humanism, Christianity etc.
This is not are mere doctrine which one can stand outside of and think about.
This doctrine does not bring happiness, it IS HAPPINESS because it is EVERYTHING.
To the pure devotee this doctrine is a happiness so utterly beyond, beyond that
it is to Jefferson's life, liberty and pursuit of happiness as the utter annihilation of planet Earth by a supernova.
All we karmis love, worry about, care about as American voters -- is nothing
in comparison to this incomparable relationship rupturing ABSOLUTE TRUTH which IS Srila Prabhupada's teachings.
To the pure devotee this is TRUTH that is is beyond any relative truth, that is beyond reasonable doubt, that contains everything, that is contained in no catagory and cannot be really compared with any other belief.
In short, all we care about as karmis is contemptible from such a standpoint.
Here is old man Prabhupada talking of us karmis.
The happiness we feel in our marriages, having children, doing a job and doing it well -- he utterly belittles them.
Is a Krishna devotee capable of genuine basic respect for those of us who do not buy into Srila Prahupada and Chris Butler's doctrines?
Here Prabhupada demonstrates
his contempt for those in other sects of Hinduism.
Sri Mad Bhagavatam 10 2 24
?s?na? sa?vi?a?s ti??han
bhuñj?na? parya?an mah?m
apa?yat tanmaya? jagat
Karm?s hanker to be promoted to the heavenly planets, but a K???a conscious person considers such promotion a will-o’-the-wisp, good for nothing. Durd?ntendriya-k?la-sarpa-pa?al? protkh?ta-da???r?yate. Yog?s try to control their senses and thus become happy, but a K???a conscious person neglects the methods of yoga. He is unconcerned with the greatest of enemies, the senses, which are compared to snakes. For a K???a conscious person who is cultivating K???a consciousness favorably, the happiness conceived by the karm?s, jñ?n?s and yog?s is treated as less than a fig.
Today here is a discussion of Srila Prabhupada disciples about karmis. This is years later.
These lectures were given by Prahupada in Hindi.
New Prabhupada Hindi Classes — High Quality MP3s
We have about seventy recordings of Srila Prabhupada preaching in Hindi which have never been presented nicely in MP3 format. Which means many Hindi-speaking people are unaware that we have so many wonderful recordings of Srila Prabhupada preaching in Hindi.
Many of them were released in the Prabhupada MP3 set but the Hindi recordings were presented in an unorganized and unsystematic way and in poor quality audio. Now we have organized them properly and tagged them with the proper MP3 tags so they will play nicely on iPods and other portable players. And the sound quality is very nice. So if you know Hindi yourself or if you know anyone else who understands Hindi these Prabhupada Hindi recordings will be very enlivening for them to hear.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/18/2018 12:15AM by corboy.