100% correct, Rama!


Quote: "This is the homophobic world Tulsi Gabbard was bred in, and is still sympathetic to, despite her superficial lip service finally endorsing gay marriage.

You can bet your bottom dollar Tulsi Gabbard would never knowingly employ a homosexual or LGBT person, or even a non Chris Butler cult member, for that matter.” End quote.

The age of Chaos and Confusion- Straight outta Kailua-Cult Central!

"And that is the epitome of the reason Butler sends his guys into politics, just so they can make cryptic references and policy choices no one else understands, thinking they are slinging the ultimate truth."

Remember this, when it comes time to suffer thru another Tulsi campaign.

When Butler speaks, Tulsi’s lips move (just like Mike’s did).


Justice for Sri!

To aid in the continuing effort to expose this destructive cult, we are asking for any contributions of SIF videos, books, pamphlets or tapes that you may have on hand.
Feel free to contact any member of this thread thru the PM feature.
We are especiallly reaching out to any ex-ers out there, who may have stored these things away.
Now is the time to bring them out. Your name will remain off the forum postings.


Help us educate and inform the public, especially now, in light of recent events.
No cult leader has the right nor the power to shut down anyone’s voice,
especially if it is their TRUTH.

Remember, a vote for Tulsi is a vote for Butler.

Its not about religion!
It is about a cult’s hatred and intolerance.

It absolutely IS about one man’s lust for power and dominion.

A Call To Arms!

Yes, anyone at all, contact any of us with those old Chris Butler lectures and pamphlets, any e-mails or letters.

If you want to help expose the Chris Butler cult, get in touch and we will make him eat his own disgusting words.

Look me up on Facebook, you can figure it out.

A new documentary about the ongoing child abuse and corruption within ISKCON and the Hare Krishna movement.

Cost Of Silence

http://youtu.be/UvlRAyM3p4Q

Oh man. Those booklets and books are gone. You can't even get them on eBay. I recall on book distribution in the PI how we used to hit up cemeteries and places where vulnerable folks would buy into the booklets. The booklets in and of them selves were a mumbo jumbo of samkhya and yoga with a nice dose of krishnaism. Obviously butler was posited as the "true guru".

One of the ongoing things that blows my mind is that no one made an effort to redo these booklets. New covers, update the content etc. Same for butler's lectures. It's like the man froze in time.

I recall at the PI school there was a big box where the lectures were categorized by topic or in the least alphabetically. There was only so many of them, so after 4 years, it was not uncommon to have heard some lectures a dozen times. We were asked to write essays on the lectures. I recall after the 10th time of listening to some of theme I started to slack on my essays (you can only write about something so many times), and was questioned by Yoshodanandana devi dasi as to why I felt the lectures did not warrant more of an essay. I was like, "I've heard these lectures so many times...".

One funny thing was that at the school, the alter had a big picture of Butler on the left and on the same level as him was a big picture of chaitanya. Obviously, in terms of hierarchy and tradition, the guru was not to be on the same level as chaitanya. It's funny, but we really knew very little about the other gurus in the parampara on the alter. It was just accepted that this was this unbroken line of teachers going all the way back to 4-headed creator god brahma. And we now know that this is far form being the case, but it was always the naive way that it was communicated.

Many of the booklets and pamphlets spent a lot of time on the basic "you are not the body" concept. In fact, if there is one single idea that butler had communicated ad nauseum, it was that one point. As if that was not the basic premise of every religion on the planet.

I assume to avoid confusion with ISKCON, butler almost always focused on mantras like gopal govinda rama sri madhu suddhana and Madana Mohana Murari. Hare Krishna was rarely sung.

Most of the booklets and a lot of promotional material always featured a picture of krishna sitting on a rock, pensive, with his arm around a deer. A sort of jesus pose. Approachable. You know, sans all the 4 headed gods, 4 armed gods, Huge rats and elephant headed gods and everything else you would be exposed to and expected to believe in as you went further down the rabbit hole.

Thank you Rama for posting that timely video.
Make no mistake, the same thing also happened in Butler’s cult and for the same reasons. No one to care fo the children--the adults were too busy with Butler.
If you get a chance, watch it, this is still an ongoing problem.

Very sad situation for the children.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/21/2016 12:29PM by VoxVeritasVita Das.

This person was born into an entirely different group, a Christian belief system.

This person did get out and wishes everyone peace and healing.

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Rama Das (slave name) Wrote:
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> A new documentary about the ongoing child abuse
> and corruption within ISKCON and the Hare Krishna
> movement.
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> Cost Of Silence
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> http://youtu.be/U
> vlRAyM3p4Q


The free mind and open society

Most poverty resulted from bad governance. It’s unequivocal, wealthy nations owe their success to having an open society, defined as one "in which individuals are confronted with personal decisions" as opposed to a "magical or tribal or collectivist society."

In the closed society, claims to certain knowledge and ultimate truth lead to the attempted imposition of one version of reality. Such a society is closed to freedom of thought. In contrast, in an open society each citizen needs to engage in critical thinking, which requires freedom of thought and expression and the cultural and legal institutions that can facilitate this.

[en.wikipedia.org]

Religious cults at best share the same themes organized religions contribute to society – peace, love and charity, that society values and in return protect religious rights. For that, unfortunately, religious cults get an easy free pass to undermine the most basic foundation of an open society, that of a free mind.

Religious cults ring an “utmost surrender” of one’s will, not just to a Supreme Being but to a guru, who always claims to be “The Representative”.

Open societies are by no means perfect, but countries that embrace superstitious values above pragmatic principles are usually poor that results to having less educated populations that are easily manipulated by unqualified politicians and self-interest groups that lead to a protracted and vicious cycle which can last for decades, even centuries. Poorer education always guarantees poorer governance.

If you are to join a cult, be reminded that not only you are propagating a mindset that does not distinguish between natural laws and archaic religious customs, also has no room for individual accountability and responsibility for genuine moral choices. A free mind is simply incompatible with religious belief.

Most of all, you are contributing to a much larger victimhood. Surrendering your will or critical thinking is tantamount to becoming a willing rape victim. Brainwashing is a psychological rape. If you’re an adult, it’s within your rights, but to involve children, let alone, your own children, think of this. Will you allow your child to get raped? Gurus are rapists of the mind.

For what it's worth—nice to see Tulsi as a speaker at [reasonrally.org]