Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: CarlFig ()
Date: January 30, 2019 01:00AM

Fortunately the MSM is not taking her seriously.

One fairly funny example.


Samantha Bee says, "... But look at America now. There are several exciting women running for President, and also Tulsi Gabbard."

...and "Oh, Tulsi, honey, No. There's just too much."

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: January 30, 2019 10:25AM

Carl Fig- that was great! More, more. !!!

and "Oh Tulsi, honey, No. There's just too much."


Run away Tulsi, run away.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: AC4711 ()
Date: January 31, 2019 07:42AM

when you are raised inside the group... All outsiders are bad people, you must keep that in mind to understand the mentality.. us vs the demon meat eaters, ( and gays don't forget the gays are out there)... You are also taught that with time, place and circumstance, you can lie,cheat, steal, eat meat.. you name it in the service of GOD.. KRSNA. Butler once said that he could go to downtown Waikiki and pick up chicks at a bar + have illicit sex with them and it would not be against any regulated principles or be any type of Karmic behavior for him because he is pure. When you are also raised as a devotee are told of the prophecy that at the end of times.true disciples and devotees of Krishna will be hunted and unjustly prosecuted.Just so you ALL know, regardless of how loud the drums of truth are banged around them. from the inside CORE hippie ones who were with SAI from the Start.. to the 30's and 40's hip ones who look cool, they know that one day society will turn on them .... it says so in their books. here is a picture of who is to come save them at the end times.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: GODHIMSELF ()
Date: January 31, 2019 09:15AM

Thank you very much AC4711...We need more testimonials like yours on this forum.
The cult now denies that they ever had a school in the Philippine.
Where you a student of Butler in the Philippine ??

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: January 31, 2019 02:27PM

Their whole life,
Sheep are scared of the Wolf.
But in the end, it is the Shepherd who
eats them.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: AC4711 ()
Date: February 01, 2019 04:12AM

VoxVertiV das that is so true. I have been and continue to be impressed by your continued work on this subject, keep on banging the drum. GODHIMSELF not sure if that is the correct pronoun to use. just google, SIF Philippines. Google is not as deceptive as Mr. Butler and his group.. but I guess God let SIF lie but holds Google to higher standards? because?

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: February 01, 2019 12:01PM

Ponder if you will, a starry Hawaiian night.
A young women hastily puts her ticket in her pocket.
Destination bound, she carefully picks her way thru the streets
towards the dock. There under a full tropical moon, she
boards the ship.
A ship that will never drop anchor.
Destined to never arrive, Tulsi Gabbard is now firmly entrenched aboard
a political "Titanic".

- You have just crossed into, the Twilight Zone

Twilight Zone

Tulsi Gabbard campaign in disarray

Her campaign manager is already set to depart and the congresswoman is under fire back home in Hawaii.


Tulsi Gabbard’s presidential campaign hasn’t officially launched yet but it’s already melting down.

Two-and-a-half weeks after the Hawaii Democrat told CNN she had decided to run for the White House—an announcement that even her own staff didn't know was coming, after weeks of debating the timing of the rollout—the 37-year-old congresswoman has struggled to contain the chaos.

Campaign manager Rania Batrice and Gabbard’s consulting firm Revolution Messaging are set to depart after this weekend’s official kickoff in Hawaii, two sources familiar with the situation told POLITICO. Gabbard is leaning on her sister, Vrindavan, to fill the void.

Meanwhile, the congresswoman is under fire back home after picking a fight with Sen. Mazie Hirono (D-Hawaii), and a prominent Democratic state lawmaker is already challenging Gabbard in next year’s congressional primary. That means she faces the possibility of losing the presidential race and her House seat as well.

For years, Gabbard has been regarded as a rising star in the Democratic Party, and supporters hoped she could use a presidential bid to pressure party elites toward a non-interventionist foreign policy. But her early campaign stumbles and problems back home—where at times she’s had sky-high approval ratings—call into question whether the Hawaii lawmaker can compete on the national stage.

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Batrice is an experienced campaign operative and served as deputy campaign manager for Sen. Bernie Sanders’ insurgent 2016 bid. But Gabbard‘s tumultuous rollout over the past several weeks suggested there is a disconnect between the candidate and her team.

Gabbard's campaign downplayed the departures, as did Batrice and Revolution Messaging.

“Rania Batrice is a longtime adviser and friend and remains so,” Erika Tsuji, a campaign spokeswoman, told POLITICO. She said Revolution Messaging was hired for only the campaign launch and "we appreciate the work they've done to that end.”

Batrice described Gabbard as a close friend and said "it’s been an honor to work with her over the last few years. I wish her all the best as she mounts her historic campaign.”

But the losses of Batrice and Revolution Messaging are certain to disrupt what is already an underdog candidacy beset by turmoil.

Three people familiar with the presidential bid over the past few months describe a candidate who managed to be both indecisive and impulsive. Just announcing her candidacy became a minisaga that exhausted and bewildered people involved.

At first, Gabbard had vendors and staffers working through Thanksgiving weekend to get ready for a campaign rollout, only to pull back. Over the next several weeks, Gabbard went up to the starting line again — signaling to her team that a green light was imminent — only to make repeated retreats.

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The pattern of false starts continued through Christmas and New Year's, frustrating people who worked through the holidays.

When Gabbard did finally announce she would make a 2020 run, her team was blindsided. "I have decided to run and will be making a formal announcement within the next week," she told CNN on a Friday night in a pre-taped interview for “The Van Jones Show.”

The Gabbard campaign website was not ready to go live; social media posts weren’t ready to be sent out. And Gabbard hadn’t signed off on the launch video.

The surprise announcement left Gabbard's aides working frantically on a Friday night to get everything up online. Jones himself was surprised by her announcement and did not expect it to come on his show.

In the days after the announcement, the campaign appeared to be frozen. Gabbard’s Instagram page occasionally posted 2020 campaign-style videos as she traveled back and forth between Hawaii and Washington. But unlike other likely or declared candidates, Gabbard didn’t follow up her announcement with a trip to any of the early 2020 presidential primary states, a routine move for any federal officeholder thinking about running for president.

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Gabbard did ultimately release a launch video on Jan. 24, 13 days after her CNN interview. The campaign plans to have a formal kickoff in Hawaii on Saturday.

Meanwhile, Gabbard has faced a backlash in Hawaii. Her public feud with Hirono infuriated other Democratic politicians and activists in the state. She spent a week apologizing for her past comments opposing gay marriage and work for an anti-gay group run by her father.

The Honolulu Star-Advertiser's editorial board weighed in against her candidacy. And state Sen. Kai Kahele, a fellow Democrat, recently declared his candidacy for Gabbard’s congressional seat. Days after he announced, the powerhouse liberal group Daily Kos, which directed millions of dollars to Democratic candidates in 2017 and 2018, endorsed Kahele.

The group called Gabbard “at odds with her party’s core beliefs” in a blistering statement criticizing her on abortion, guns and foreign policy.

Kahele painted his candidacy as a remedy to the neglect Gabbard’s district has felt under her tenure.

"My sense is the challenges that face the district are real," Kahele said in an interview. "I know that this bid for the presidency is going to take up a lot of her time. It's going to take up a lot of her energy."

The conflicts have robbed Gabbard’s long-shot campaign of any early momentum. Though she was one of the few members of Congress to back Sanders over Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential race, that endorsement has bought Gabbard little goodwill among Sanders supporters in Hawaii, said Tim Vandeveer, a former state party chairman who backed Sanders in 2016.

"I think that proximity doesn't translate to support," Vandeveer said. “I have yet to talk to a single Bernie Sanders supporter ... who is supporting Tulsi over Bernie."


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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: February 01, 2019 12:17PM

Among the many Bart Dame FB posts this one stands out- a must read.

Anonymous writes:
Quote: "Bart Dame writes, I can feel the breath of Chris Butler in all of this."

Not only is it his breath, it is his hand, his mind, and his words. Like all of Butler’s disciples who have vowed to serve and obey their Guru in any directive he gives them, Tulsi is no different. She is his only disciple in the media spotlight. Tulsi is his vessel, her life service is to her Guru first and foremost, family next and community last. Sorry Hawaii, you should have vetted her when you had your first chance.
Just like you cannot divorce Tulsi Gabbard’s cloistered upbringing from whom she is today, (Bart Dame words), the same applies to her Guru Chris Butler. He was the one raised in a politically active family and purchased his road to success by getting into the guru business. Now he wants the ultimate power as POTUS through his marketable parrot and loyal servant Tulsi Gabbard.
Butler, even though he and his disciples believe he is Gods confident-someone who God (Krsna) speaks through, is merely a man; a self-indulging, ambitious, narcissistic, low-life of a man who has abused his complete power over his disciples for his own gain for years. He has had no human interaction with anyone other than his disciples for over forty years. Imagine no one ever telling you NO, that is his world.
Except for the media and whatever his brainwashed disciples disclose to him, his views of the world are all his own. The maverick, independent, heroic, self-promoting, aloha- loving, flavored with a dash of surfing and sometimes baseball, that we see in all of Tulsi Gabbard's media, is the work of her guru. While the Hare Krsnas chose temples to expand their cult, Butler chose the media. He is the sole director, and his cult followers provide the manpower behind his numerous media production business’s. Bart states he sees the telltale signs of the Hare Krsna Homoeroticism through its media productions, maybe a little but I see the egomaniacal Butler throughout.

If journalists are going to cower behind the threats of lawsuits from Butler’s highly paid Attorneys, then expect Tulsi Gabbard's political charade to continue. Over the years, his cult organization and its followers have filed defamation lawsuits in an attempt to scare in-depth media reporting and ex-follower’s testimony. Only those that got out of his cult and cut off any allegiance to Guru Butler can act independently. Only they are of sane mind to bare the truth behind Butler’s cult curtain of secrecy. For those still involved in his cult, they lost their independent minds the day they started following Butler.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/01/2019 12:18PM by VoxVeritasVita Das.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: GODHIMSELF ()
Date: February 01, 2019 01:23PM

State Sen. Kai Kahele seems to be a very good candidate to beat Tulsi Gabbard
and send her to oblivion...Thank you Vox VeritasVita das Sir are doing a great job researching pieces of information for this forum .

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: AC4711 ()
Date: February 02, 2019 03:23AM

"Pride takes many forms, but spiritual pride is the most grievous. To become proud of spiritual gifts or leadership position is to forget that all we have is from God" Why stay in hiding? why is Sidda sending out the children of his disciples to be torn up in the political machines and slandered throughout the 3 worlds? Does Sidda not speak with A.bay C.haran at night over tea? how far has Sidda fallen to not understand that you cannot Appoint a GURU? Does he not remember the truth and light spoken from the heart of his master? Now sidda invites the demon god brothers of his gurudeva to speak in Hawaii? To listen to the boga coming from this corrupted linage of Appointed Gurus mouths? a thousand lifetimes Sidda will suffer as does he not understand that Shrila Gaura Kishora Dasa Babaji ate mud, saw everyone as being the direct personal associates of Radha and Krishana, felt lower than the straw on the street devoid of all sense of false PRESETIGE. Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakur.. what would that Man say to sidda all sickly hiding behind his walls and doors…. I can see it now.
A loud thunderous roar would be heard from the heart of the spiritual lion Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakur as he was coming to Chastise, with his thick hands and muscular build he would kindly bring Sidda out form his chair and walk with him in the street to meet the light of the world As Siddas young Australian male bodyguard disciples run away in horror as the light and fire in the eyes of Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakur would be like the sudarsan charkara in their minds. But alas we have but a lost sidda, who spat on his gurus Vanyasi initiation and hides from the “media” with his lawyers… as Shrila Gaura Kishora Dasa Babaji ate mud, saw everyone as being the direct personal associates of Radha and Krishana, felt lower than the straw on the street devoid of all sense yada yaday ydada yada dya dsense yada yaday ydada yada dya dysense yada yaday ydada yada dya dysense yada yaday ydada yada dya dyyadadad bs just keeps dripping from his mouth.

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