Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: GODHIMSELF ()
Date: January 12, 2019 11:09PM

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: January 13, 2019 02:06PM

Tulsi Gabbard will have much to answer to- the spotlight will shine directly onto her acknowledged Lord and Master- Chris Butler- whose teacher, AC Bhaktivedanta, is someone that everyone should know about.
You can only be as good as your master.

And his master before him.

Let us start at the beginning of his life:


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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: terrenaut ()
Date: January 14, 2019 05:40PM

hello all

it has been a few years since i posted on this forum. The news about Tulsi running for president brought me back.

Surely now, a light will be shone on The Science of Identity and Tulsi Gabbard's deep involvement.

She has released statements saying she is now opposed to discrimination of LGBTQ+, that she has learned a lot, and has changed. and of course, an apology.

I hope that is not enough to keep people from asking real questions.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: GODHIMSELF ()
Date: January 15, 2019 02:59AM

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: GODHIMSELF ()
Date: January 15, 2019 11:04AM


"SO SORRY" TULSI GABBARD NOW SAY....its political hypocrisy

How can she still obey and worship her GURU Chris Butler who is a homophobe
and at the same time say I AM NOT HOMOPHOBE ??

Chris Butler is not saying he is sorry

Mike Gabbard is not saying he is sorry

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: January 15, 2019 02:57PM

Score one for TRUTH

Sharing from-
Skye Williams
Jan 12 at 7:09 pm

Quote:"Before you slam me for posting established FACTS about Tulsi Gabbard, you better do some research. And don’t dare imply that any of this is “fake news” just because you didn’t know it or don't believe it. Oh and by the way, gathering facts and vetting a Presidential candidate isn’t a “purity test”, it’s common sense.
On the surface, her uninformed followers see Tulsi Gabbard as a “progressive”. Below the surface, it quickly becomes clear that she is anything but “progressive”.

Here are a few highlights:
Former anti-gay activist who called gay advocates "homosexual extremists".
Born and raised in a creepy Hare Krishna sub-cult.
Outspoken defender of Syria’s genocidal Assad (an idol of the extreme Right).
Supporter of Hindu nationalism in India, a violent right-wing movement.
Refused to vote for major gun control legislation, including the Assault Weapons Ban of 2015.
Voted with Republicans to pass HR 1181 in 2017 to remove gun restrictions for the mentally ill.
Voted with Republicans to block Syrian refugees.
Voted with Republicans in 2014 to pass HR 4118 to weaken ObamaCare.
Regularly slammed Democrats and the Obama administration on Fox News and other major TV news outlets.
Resigned from the DNC and endorsed Bernie Sanders. Called DNC Chair a "liar" on TV in an election year (2016).
Endorsed by alt-right leader Richard Spencer and former KKK leader David Duke. (This is not a joke).
Has refused to debate all Democratic challengers since being elected to Congress.
Filed an extension on her 2017 Financial Disclosures to delay release until AFTER the Democratic Primary.

Tulsi Gabbard, or as I call her “the Manchurian Candidate”, is a Republican posing as a democrat. She is an embarrassment and a disgrace to the Democratic Party.
Tulsi is also a bona-fide cult member, born and raised in a creepy Krishna subsect cult. She claims her spiritual master is Chris Butler, the leader of the homophobic Science of Identity cult. In Butler’s cult, children kneel in his presence, marriages are arranged and any attempt to leave the cult means you can never have any future contact with your own family members. The cult gets tons of money from dubious sources and has some interesting members, including some global drug traffickers.
Years ago, the cult began backing it’s members as political candidates, including Tulsi’s conservative father Mike Gabbard, who ran as a Republican and was elected to Hawaii State Senate. Mike Gabbard quickly realized he wasn’t going to get far in a State where Democrats have long had a supermajority, so in 2007, Gabbard switched from Republican to the Democratic Party of Hawaii. Although he still serves Hawaii’s 20th district, he receives repeated complaints regarding his opposition to the Democratic Party of Hawai'i's platform.
The cult also groomed Tulsi Gabbard for political power, but her district in Hawaii is 76% Democrat. Knowing this was the only to infiltrate State politics, Tulsi took cues from her father and entered politics as a Democrat.

Tulsi’s family are well-known anti-gay activists. Tulsi proudly touted her work for her father's anti-gay organization, which led the charge in Hawaii AGAINST same-sex marriage and promoted controversial gay conversion therapy.
Gabbard's father ran The Alliance for Traditional Marriage, a PAC that spent more than $100K to pass an amendment in that gave the Hawaii state legislature power to "reserve marriage to opposite-sex couples." The Alliance for Traditional Marriage called homosexuality "unhealthy, abnormal behavior that should not be promoted or accepted in society."
Gabbard's father was also the director of Stop Promoting Homosexuality and also served on the National Campaign to Protect Marriage and Save Traditional Marriage. He also hosted an anti-gay radio show called Let's Talk Straight Hawaii.

In 2004, while serving as a "Democrat" in the Hawaii State Legislature, Tulsi (who at the time used her married name Tamayo) led a protest against a bill that would have legalized civil unions for same-sex couples. “As Democrats, we should be representing the views of the people, not a small number of homosexual extremists,” she said at the time.. The same year, she made a notably anti-gay floor speech against another bill to help gay youth. Screen shot excerpts of that speech are in my photo albums under Tulsi Gabbard.
So why did Democratic voters elect her to Congress? Tulsi entered the Democratic Primary for Congress in 2012. The leading candidate at the time was Democrat Mufi Hannemann, a political opponent of then Democrat Governor Neil Abercombie. Abercombie's highest priority was to see Mufi defeated. Despite her right-wing views, Abercombie's team took Tulsi under their wing and repackaged her as a “progressive.” Tulsi started claiming to have "evolved" from her radical anti-gay and pro-life ways, but she never really acknowledged her actual views. At the same time, her opponent Mufi was still spouting anti-gay beliefs and opposing the state's then Civil Union law. Democrats had a choice between an outspoken anti-gay bigot (Mufi) or a candidate with an even worse anti-gay record but who claimed to have changed.
Tulsi also has a long history of being against a woman’s right to choose. She entered politics in as an anti-gay pro-lifer, but later she suddenly changed her public stance on gay rights and abortion. This was dubious at best and in a 2015 interview with Ozy, she confirmed that her “personal views” on gay marriage and abortion hadn’t changed, just her view on whether the government should enforce its vision of morality. Hmmm.
Once in office, Tulsi started showing her true (RED) colors. She often votes with Republicans in Congress. Gabbard refused to co-sponsor gun control legislation, including the Assault Weapons Ban of 2015. She voted in favor of a Republican-sponsored anti-refugee bill.
She wormed her way into a position at the DNC and began her campaign of sabotage and self-serving publicity. She went on every news and talk show (including Fox News) and began slamming Democrats and the Obama administration. Gabbard criticized Obama for not bombing Syria, while praising Putin for doing so. Gabbard has since been glorified in conservative media.
Tulsi was very outspoken AGAINST Obama’s nuclear agreement with Iran but begrudgingly voted for it and tweeted that “It’s not a great deal, or even a good deal. I voted for it because I could not find a better alternative.”
In 2014, long before Trump jumped on the bandwagon, Gabbard was appearing regularly on Fox News to slam the Obama administration for avoiding the phrase “Islamic extremism” or some variation of it.

Gabbard, the first Hindu in the House, aligned herself with the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), and their leader, Narendra Modi. He campaigned for election in 2014 by threatening to deport undocumented immigrants from Bangladesh (who are mostly Muslim), calling them “infiltrators.” The same year, Gabbard said “He is a leader whose example and dedication to the people he serves should be an inspiration to elected officials everywhere.” Modi has been accused of a multitude of human-rights abuses, including attacks against Muslims and homosexuals. When members of the U.S. House of Representatives introduced HR 417, a bill that called on India to improve its human-rights abuses, Gabbard publicly opposed it. Modi became prime minister of India.
In 2015, Tulsi traveled to Egypt as part of a congressional delegation and met Egyptian dictator Abdel Fattah el-Sisi. Sisi is a blood-soaked tyrant who’s killed hundreds of Egyptians and imprisoned thousands more. Gabbard saw it differently, stating that “President el-Sisi has shown great courage and leadership in taking on this extreme Islamist ideology,” urging US political leaders to “stand with him in this fight against Islamic extremists.” Some of the Sisi government’s accomplishments in this fight include killing a group of Mexican tourists and torturing and murdering an Italian PhD student.
Gabbard went to Syria to meet with Syrian President Assad in January 2017. She was accompanied by Elie and Bassam Khawam, officials in the Syrian Social Nationalist Party, a party actively engaged in the Syrian civil war on the side of the Assad regime. To visit an authoritarian regime, while accompanied by two men who greatly support it, in front of a global audience, can serve to legitimize authoritarian rule. Gabbard came back from the experience saying Assad should remain in power, despite the fact that he's been committing genocide of his own people for years.
After reporters revealed that Gabbard’s Syria trip had been funded by a pair of Lebanese-American businessmen with ties to a pro-Assad political party, Gabbard’s tepid response was to simply agree to repay her travel costs. A few months after her trip, after a sarin-gas attack in Syria, Gabbard publicly said she was “skeptical” of claims that Assad’s regime was to blame. Howard Dean responded on Twitter, saying “This is a disgrace. Gabbard should not be in Congress.”
Gabbard voted against a House resolution condemning “war crimes and crimes against humanity” by the Syrian government.

In 2015, before the DNC had a chance to kick her to the curb, Tulsi
resigned “in protest”. She couldn’t openly cross the aisle where she belongs (without risk to her seat in congress) so she endorsed Bernie Sanders. This was seen by insiders as another way to generate publicity and headlines, since her rhetoric and positions on issues have often been closer to Trump's than Sanders.

Tulsi is so RED that after the 2016 election, Donald Trump seriously considered her for secretary of state or U.N. ambassador. Tulsi was the only “Democrat” considered and the only one Trump met with. Steve Bannon loved the idea because of her stance on guns, refugees and Islam. Kellyanne Conway told reporters that “Trump and Gabbard have a lot of common ground and both understand the country very well”. Racist alt-right leader Richard Spencer also loved the idea, tweeting “Tulsi Gabbard is brave and the kind of person we need in the diplomatic corps.”
As if one racist alt-right endorsement wasn’t enough, Tulsi is also supported by David Duke, the former grand wizard of the KKK. In a 2016 radio interview, Duke said that he was a huge fan of Congresswoman Gabbard. Although Gabbard quickly renounced Duke’s support, his endorsement at the very least says a lot about her ideologies and affiliations with right-wing dictators.
In 2017, according to FEC filings, Gabbard's campaign paid the Potomac Square Group (headed by Chris Cooper) for media consulting. The same year, Cooper was named in a letter from Senate Judiciary Committee as part of the Russia investigation. Cooper was also hired to do PR for Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer from the Trump Tower meeting who has now been charged in a separate case that shows her close ties to the Kremlin.

Gabbard's campaign spent over $70,000 on video equipment and production costs, with much of that going to her husband Abraham Williams and his production company. Tulsi’s husband is also a member of the Science of Identity cult. His company produces all the videos for cult co-leader Wai Lana Butler, including local PBS shows raising funds for the wealthy cult leader and his wife.
If you live in Tulsi's district and ask for information or services, Gabbard requires her own constituents to fill out a 3-page "Privacy Release Form" before her office staff will provide assistance. This invasive form requires detailed information including immigrant status, business tax ID, Medicare, and Veteran's Administration numbers. These forms are not required by other Congressional offices.

Tulsi Gabbard has never attended a Women's March even though Teresa Shook lives in her district. Shook founded the movement before it was hijacked by radical extremists like Tamika Mallory, Carmen Perez and Linda Sarsour.
Tulsi Gabbard was chosen to be an inaugural fellow at the Sanders Institute, founded by Bernie’s wife, Jane Sanders. Just like Sanders, Gabbard is pure poison to our party. We must do everything in our power to keep Democrats from being deceived by this self-serving cult-raised infiltrator. Tulsi Gabbard’s actions have proven to be against the ideals and platform of our party and her true agenda and motivations are unknown.
This extensively researched article was first started in 2015 and has been updated over the years. Thanks to my partners at Fact Society and to my friends in Hawaii who brought this all to my attention and provided links and articles they had been compiling for years. Many of them have lived in this district in Hawaii for decades and can attest to the facts presented in this article. Everything in this article can be verified. Some of the early articles about Tulsi’s deep ties to the Science of Identity cult, many of which were published in independent press outlets in Hawaii, have now been removed from the internet by the cult or by threat of Tulsi’s handlers. Unfortunately, I saved them in a file as links. I have since changed my methods and have begun printing out and taking screen shots of documents used in research.

The truth IS out there.

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Here are some links and videos for those who want more....
[] (a long but thoroughly researched article exposing Tulsi Gabbard's cult ties)


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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: January 15, 2019 03:36PM

Money is the root of all evil.

"You are not the Body"....Chris Butler

"Where is my money? (mangos,Eddie Bauer jacket, Malibu house on the beach, $100,00 air cleaner, private jet, ad nauseum...)".... Chris Butler

Follow the Money !!


Soumya Shankar
January 5 2019, 5:00 a.m.
LONG BEFORE THE Indian strongman Narendra Modi became prime minister of the world’s largest democracy, he was a prominent leader of the Hindu right. He rose as a public figure through the nationalist organization Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, or RSS, whose ideology includes a desire to carve out a Hindu nation in which Muslims and Christians are considered second-class citizens. It was a well-known activist who once had links to the RSS who assassinated Mahatma Gandhi, accusing him of appeasing Muslims during the bloody partition of the Indian subcontinent.

That anti-Muslim sentiment has been a major driving force of Modi’s political career in the Bharatiya Janata Party, or BJP. In 2002, when Modi was chief minister of the state of Gujarat, he oversaw an outbreak of violence by Hindu nationalists against the minority Muslim population that resulted in the deaths of more than 1,000 people. Local and international fact-finding groups accused Modi of complicity in the killings, charging that he did not do enough to contain the violence. Indian courts eventually exonerated him for a lack of evidence, but his image was pilloried. The United Kingdom and some European countries refused to deal with him and in 2005, the United States barred him from entering the country.

Modi’s ascent has normalized nationalist rhetoric, the silencing of dissent, and violence against religious minorities in India — and it’s also had global implications. Elected prime minister in 2014, he was one of the first of a class of populist autocrats who’ve risen to power in recent years. That group includes Egypt’s Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, who was elected in the same month as Modi; Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who’s been in office for more than a decade but has been increasingly consolidating power; Rodrigo Duterte of the Philippines, whose war on drugs has killed thousands of people; Brazil’s Jair Bolsonaro, who was elected in October despite his pro-military dictatorship stance; and, of course, America’s Donald Trump.

In the United States, Modi’s reputation has been helped by a group of Hindu-American supporters with links to the RSS and other Hindu nationalist organizations, who’ve been working in tandem with a peculiar congressional ally: Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii, the first Hindu in Congress.

Gabbard — a member of the House committees on Foreign Affairs and Armed Services, and co-chair of the India Caucus — is an oddity in American politics. Ever since her 2016 resignation from the Democratic National Committee to endorse Bernie Sanders for president, she has been a rising star in the progressive wing of the Democratic Party. Last year, she racked up endorsements from groups like Progressive Democrats of America and Our Revolution, and she sailed to re-election.

But she has also become a polarizing figure. Her progressive domestic politics are at odds with her support for authoritarians abroad, including Modi, Sisi, and Syria’s Bashar al-Assad. As right-wing nationalism rises across the globe, it is beginning to be recognized as an existential threat to a world order rooted in liberal democratic values, and Gabbard, an Iraq War veteran, is now being pushed to choose sides. (Gabbard did not respond to The Intercept’s multiple requests for comment.)

Gabbard was embraced early on by pro-Modi elements of the Hindu-American diaspora in the U.S., who have donated generously to her campaigns. But as she flirts with the idea of running for president, she has publicly cut ties with those fervent supporters on at least one occasion, while continuing to court them in private.

IN JUNE 2014, after Modi won the election, nearly 700 of his supporters gathered at a Hindu temple in Atlanta to celebrate and plan their path forward. To mobilize their community, the speakers laid out a plan that included a call for donations to Gabbard’s re-election campaign. They described the Hawaii Democrat as an “American Hindu” who “has fought against the anti-Modi resolution introduced recently by some members” of Congress.

The event was organized by the Overseas Friends of the BJP, the American chapter of the Bharatiya Janata Party. Gabbard had landed on the group’s radar as one of America’s few pro-Modi lawmakers. In December 2013, she had voiced her opposition to House Resolution 417, which chided India to protect “the rights and freedoms of religions minorities” and referred to incidents of mass violence against minority Muslims that had taken place under Modi’s watch. Gabbard later told the press that “there was a lot of misinformation that surrounded the event in 2002.”

Also in 2014, Gabbard attended an OFBJP event, where Vijay Jolly, a senior politician of Modi’s government, was present. He took to the stage and told Gabbard that “with the support of … non-resident Indians … your victory later this year is a foregone conclusion.” She cruised to re-election.

Hindu-Americans have supported Gabbard since the start of her political career, and that support has increased substantially since Modi’s election, much of it coming from Hindu nationalists.

Dozens of Gabbard’s donors have either expressed strong sympathy with or have ties to the Sangh Parivar — a network of religious, political, paramilitary, and student groups that subscribe to the Hindu supremacist, exclusionary ideology known as Hindutva, according to an Intercept analysis of Gabbard’s financial disclosures from 2011 until October 2018. We cross-checked the names of Gabbard’s donors against open-source materials linked to Sangh organizations, such as event announcements and the groups’ websites.

According to our analysis, at least 105 current and former officers and members of U.S. Sangh affiliates, and their families, have donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to Gabbard’s campaigns since 2011. (Nearly one-third of Gabbard’s overall donations — $1.24 million — came from more than 800 individual donors with names, according to an expert consulted by The Intercept, that are of Hindu origin, many of whom made repeat donations. Of that amount, nearly $1.12 million was donated during the 2013-2014 election cycle and beyond, according to our analysis.) Gabbard’s ties to Hindu nationalists in the United States run so deep that the progressive newspaper Telegraph India in 2015 christened her the Sangh’s American mascot.

The Sangh’s U.S. affiliates are led by Hindu-American professionals and businesspeople from around the country. Historian Vijay Prashad refers to their collective movement as “Yankee Hindutva,” which he defines as a political ideology whose adherents are successful Hindu-Americans with nostalgia for India and a fantasy of a Hindu state. “This fantasy came at a time when the Hindu right rose in India, and it was this Hindu right that was able to capture the sentiments of this diasporic population,” Prashad told The Intercept.

ALLAHABAD, UTTAR PRADESH, INDIA - 2016/05/18: Indian Hindu-nationalist Vishwa and hindu Parishad activists tossed offerings into a sacred fire and recited hymns in Sanskrit to pray for Trump's victory. (Photo by Prabhat Kumar Verma/Pacific Press/LightRocket via Getty Images)
Hindu nationalist Vishva Hindu Parishad activists toss offerings into a fire and recite hymns in Sanskrit to pray for Donald Trump’s presidential victory in Uttar Pradesh, India. Phoro: Prabhat Kumar Verma/Pacific Press/LightRocket/Getty Images
Since 2013, Gabbard has attended conferences across the United States organized by Sangh affiliates, like the Vishwa Hindu Parishad of America, whose counterpart in India has been linked to advocating violence against Muslims in India and was classified last summer as a “militant religious organization” in the CIA World Factbook. (The BJP has hotly contested this classification.) The Sangh organizations in the U.S. reportedly provide social and financial support for their Indian counterparts. A 2014 study by the South Asia Citizens Web found that between 2001 and 2012, five Sangh-affiliated charitable groups allocated more than $55 million for program services, funds that are largely sent to Sangh groups in India.

Gabbard’s allies are committed to their efforts. “Why should the Hindus not have their own political organization [in the United States]? The Jews have it, the Muslims have it, the Christians have it too,” said Bharat Barai, a Chicago-based oncologist. In 2014, Barai organized a fundraiser for Gabbard, and he has donated almost $16,000 to her campaigns since 2013. He is known to have ties to the Indian prime minister, and just last year, Modi’s government awarded Barai the Pravasi Bharatiya Samman, the annual civil honor given to a nonresident Indian for meritorious achievement. In 2019, Gabbard is slated to attend the Pravasi Bharatiya Divas ceremony, at which the Indian government hands out this award, as a guest of honor.

Barai is on the advisory board of the VHPA, which on its website says that it is independent of the VHP and that its vision is to “build a dynamic Hindu society.” Asked about his association with the VHPA, given the VHP’s violence in India, Barai maintained that the groups are separate and that Sangh outfits in America are very careful in “trying to work within the bounds of law.”

Hindu-Americans, Barai believes, are finally making a name for themselves in U.S. politics.

“We have been enslaved for 800 years — first by the Islamic rulers, then by the British,” he said, referring to India’s history under Muslim kingdoms and British colonizers.

THE HINDU AMERICAN Foundation is a prominent, not-for-profit advocacy organization of Hindu-Americans with strong ties to Gabbard. In a 2014 Atlanta speech, Gabbard said she and her team are in touch with HAF on a weekly, if not daily, basis. HAF co-founder and former VHPA activist Mihir Meghani has donated $18,500 to Gabbard’s campaigns and has organized several fundraisers for her. Meghani, a California physician, did not respond to The Intercept’s request for comment. In the 2017-2018 election cycle, individual board members of HAF collectively donated $24,000 to Gabbard’s campaign, the news outlet Sludge reported.

In 2016, the HAF lobbied against the replacement of the word “Indian” with “South Asian” in middle-school history textbooks in California, arguing that the change was essentially an erasure of India itself. These efforts were protested by South Asian academics and activists belonging to India’s minority groups, who said that those on the side of the HAF sought to whitewash California’s history textbooks to present a nativist, blemish-free view of how the Hindu caste system was enforced in India. They also argued that the term “South Asia” correctly represents India’s collective history with countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh. A letter to the California State Board of Education about this issue, which garnered thousands of signatures, was spearheaded by the HAF and signed by more than 100 people who have the same names as donors to Gabbard.

Gabbard’s ties to VHPA members have seeped over from the professional to the personal. Rishi Bhutada, a former director of the Hindu Heritage Youth Camp and officer of the Hindu Students Council — both projects of the VHPA — was invited to Gabbard’s intimate Hawaii wedding. (Also present was prominent BJP strategist Ram Madhav, who delivered a gift from Modi.) Bhutada, who runs a business in Houston, has donated $15,200 to Gabbard’s campaigns.

He told The Intercept that that he initially supported Gabbard because she was the first politician to ever directly ask for his support, which she did after reading about him in a 2011 CNN post. “In that first conversation, I heard something in the way she articulated her views on leadership and on how politicians should serve America, and realized that those were qualities that I wanted to see reflected in the political sphere at large,” Bhutada wrote in an email. “We’ve been friends ever since.” He noted that he’s also donated to the other Hindu-American members of Congress, as well as candidates for office. Bhutada said his involvement with the VHPA-affiliated groups did not make him a Hindu nationalist. “I’ve never been interested in such a philosophy, and I (and HAF in general) routinely get blasted by actual right-wing Hindus,” he wrote.

Like Barai, Meghani, and Bhutada, most of Gabbard’s Sangh-affiliated donors are not from Hawaii. This is reflective of a broader trend in her donor base. Since the 2014 election cycle, California residents have given her campaign $725,520, Texans have contributed $215,060, and New Yorkers have donated $215,810. In the most recent cycle, Gabbard’s campaign received $692,198 — 80.2 percent of her total contributions — from individuals outside Hawaii. Out-of-state contributions are normal for politicians with national ambitions, but Gabbard’s political opponents frequently point to this as one of her weaknesses.

Shay Chan Hodges, Gabbard’s 2016 primary opponent, said that Gabbard skews the political dynamics of Hawaii by not paying attention to the small state. “I say, whatever she thinks about Syria or the Indian prime minister, how does that affect us?” Hodges said. “She’s our congresswoman. We have our own problems.”

AMID GROWING SCRUTINY of Gabbard’s sympathies for authoritarian world leaders, something that would be a huge liability in a potential presidential run, Gabbard has begun to distance herself from the Sangh affiliates — at least publicly.

In a November 2017 video message, Gabbard announced that she would be chairing the 2018 World Hindu Congress, a conference held once every four years organized by the VHPA and RSS that has drawn other Hindu groups, in addition to Hindu nationalists. She described the event as a “global platform where Hindus will be able to come together, share ideas and inspiration, as we seek ways to positively impact the communities around us and around the world.”

Five months later, she quietly withdrew from the event. But questions about Gabbard’s association with Hindu nationalists persisted, and on September 3 — four days before the event — her campaign released her April letter informing organizers that she would no longer be attending. She ascribed her decision to “ethical concerns and problems that surrounded my participating in any partisan Indian political event in America.” Her recusal marked a significant shift in her rhetoric, as she has attended and spoken at numerous events organized by affiliates of India’s political parties, like the OFBJP.

I’m in
Abhaya Asthana, the VHPA president to whom Gabbard’s letter was addressed, said his organization was not bothered by her withdrawal, even if she was “misinformed about who would be participating.”

Barai, for his part, initially described Gabbard’s recusal from the event as a “blunder.” “She will be re-elected in Hawaii, but if she wants to run for national office, she will need continued support from Indian-Americans,” he said prior to the midterm elections. Barai anticipated that many Hindu-Americans would be less inclined to donate to Gabbard moving forward. “It is not going to become zero,” he said. “But earlier, if people were giving $5,000, they will give $500, until she clarifies her position and apologizes.”

Displeasure with Gabbard’s recusal from the World Hindu Congress was widespread.

“Gabbard is playing to certain galleries hoping not to attract their ire and their wrath,” wrote Ramesh Rao, a professor of communication at Columbus State University, in a column for Swarajya, a pro-Hindu nationalist publication in India. “It is easy to distance herself from Hindus and Hindu organizations because she knows they are the easy-going, let’s forget the past, let’s join hands together kind of folks who will continue to send her money in support of her election campaigns, and write about her potential of becoming President of the United States. May be not.”

After her re-election, however, Barai had a change of heart and asked Gabbard for a meeting. On November 14, he met with her at her Capitol Hill office, along with Suhag Shukla, who is on the executive board of HAF. They spoke about the World Hindu Congress, ultimately reaching a “happy consensus to put that episode behind us,” said Barai, who chaired the WHC Finance Committee and raised $1.5 million for the conference. Within a couple weeks of that meeting, Barai said, Gabbard held a conference call with about 50 of her Hindu-American supporters, including Asthana, the VHPA president. They talked about her consideration of a presidential run.

Update: January 10, 2018
This piece has been updated to include a comment from Rishi Bhutada that he provided after publication.


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A Modest Proposal
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: January 15, 2019 09:47PM

Here is an old post from 12 years ago documenting Chris Butler's homophobia.


(small quote)


I wasn't surprised by the hate speech by Guruda towards gays and lesbians. Chris Butler's group is famous in Hawaii for being the most vocal anti gay activists on the islands. I remember the public anti gay campaigns by Mike Gabbard and his wife (the guy and girl running for office) he was said to be the owner or part owner of the groups main health food store/restaurant in honolulu. I remember after some really vocal tv ads and other vocal anti gay activism that the gay community deciided to picket the health food store. They said they wouldn't leave until Gabbard gave up the store or something along those lines. That store is the main health food center for oahu, which has a very large health food population. The picketing made it so bad for business that supposedly Gabbard gave up ownership of the store in order for the picketing to stop, that's what the press reported anyways.

Friends, here is an old but interesting item.

Chris Butler's Science of Identity group (tied to Tulsi Gabbard) got some of its money from its Hawaiian noni farm.

If you have friends, relatives, business associates in Hawaii, tell them about
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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: CarlFig ()
Date: January 15, 2019 10:27PM

Tulsi is making a big case against religious bigotry because she is about to throw her hat into the ring for the Democratic presidential nomination.
She is a pawn, bought and paid for by Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa (i.e. Chris Butler).
While he is her guru, his influence over her makes her dangerous and unreliable, because Chris is dangerous and unpredictable.
The media need to start asking questions about THIS situation, NOT so much about her formerly virulent views concerning homosexuality in support of her right-wing father, himself a forty year plus devotee of Chris Butler.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: GODHIMSELF ()
Date: January 16, 2019 07:54AM

Reading Vox Veritas Vita das post makes you wonder how can a HINDU with such past and a connection to the cult of Chris Butler even think of running to be the president of the USA .

N0 1 ...It's free publicity ..but it might backfire on her and the cult.

No 2 ....She has collected a few million dollars until now from the "HINDUS" in America and India ..Hindus that have no understanding of who is the megalomaniac Chris Butler

No 3 ...Is this a ploy to collect more millions of dollars from the HINDUS saying


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