Tulsi is a Guru-ist not a Hindu
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: April 20, 2016 09:53PM

Tulsi is not her own person.

She has been advised and monitored by handlers her entire life. Legally, she is a born citizen of the United States of America.

But, functionally, emotionally, Tulsi is not a citizen. She is subject to a mad monarch, and has been her entire life.

(The same holds true for children born into polygamist cults, or into Bible groups ruled by one charismatic person who speaks for God.)

A serious candidate for the Presidency needs to find a person who practices one of the Hindu sects, a person who nevertheless makes a clear distinction between 'the Hinduisms' versus Hindu Nationalist jingoism and retrograde regression into guru idolatry.

Find someone like this to advise and accompany Bernie Sanders, and he can
ditch Tulsi and her shady handlers.

Any person in public life who takes up with Tulsi Gabbard will become
a hostage to fortune--specifically, a hostage to the history and family secrets
of Chris Butler the mad guru and his ducal family, the Gabbards.

Tulsi Gabbard is not just "Tulsi Gabbard".

Tulsi is not a person. If you get involved with Tulsi, you, whether you know it or not, have become involved not just with Tulsi; you get involved with her entire family, with all the family secrets.

You will become involved with the death of Sri Shim.

You will become involved with the Gabbard family and its dirty politics.

You will become entangled with Tulsi's parerents' mad guru, Chris Butler.

You will become involved with the many who have been tormented as children in
the jungle school in the Philippines.

It is my citizen's opinion that Tulsi wears her Hinduism as a costume. She wears her Hinduism on orders from the producer of the Chris Butler Drama.

Had Chris Butler been a Christian cult dictator, Tulsi would have been taught to present herself in Christian costume.

What Bernie needs is someone who offers something better than Tulsi and her handlers: a person who is committed to participatory democracy and practices one of the Hindu sects.

What people do not yet understand is that Tulsi has never truly lived as a citizen.

Tulsi calls herself Hindu. But in her case, the term 'Hindu' is a distraction.

Tulsi was born into a dictatorship ruled by a mad guru, a guru who owns his disciples and owns their children.

And plays with their lives and careers.

Tulsi is just one of Chris Butler's toys.



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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: IanKoviak ()
Date: April 21, 2016 12:09AM

That's really it Dharma—yoko stood for something. That's the bottom line. What words and actions or words has was lana conveyed (held in such high estimation by the cult follower)that really makes her a worshipable person? And I'm not talking about giving people courage to wear neon-glow parachute outfits while striking a pose...

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: IanKoviak ()
Date: April 21, 2016 01:17AM

Why is there so little to no information about the brahmacharin school in the PI that she attended?

She was obviously groomed for her role in politics and seems to fit right in to the stereotypical "change your tune as it suits you" political framework. How was she perceived by fellow student at the school.

For Siddha Das, Wai Lana's son, we know the answer. He was arrogant and used his position within the cult to cut corners and stay ahead (I recall many times in the PI where he made it clear who is boss and the hierarchy was very well defined—there was boys being kicked out of that school for jerking off—siddha das visited prostitutes in town and seemed to get a hall pass—in fact we all had to cower and suffer at his expense while he played the role or Ramachandra in plays and performances in both Baguio and Manila—oh the irony of it all). Of course, because of his hot headedness he was no candidate for politics, so they put him in films—but the stage is the same: A platform to create wide scale impact on the general public. With Siddha it failed miserably. With Tusli there is some decent ground covered. It must be madly embarrassing to butler and was lana that their son amounted to shit and meanwhile the Gabbards flourished in terms of political stance and influence. Or maybe it means nothing to Butler who the pawn is as long as he can be the hand that moves it.

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Dump Tulsi Now
Posted by: Vera City ()
Date: April 21, 2016 02:50AM

corboy,

Correct.

But Bernie is not likely to dump Tulsi. I am cynical.

He went to the Pope with whom he shares ideological similarities and in the same way, embraces Tulsi who represents other liberal values. He's the cool old guy appealing to the young Yoga/ Spiritual Millennial crowd...
and then there is a possible connection with Willis Butler?

The only way Bernie will drop Tulsi is if the Hillary camp goes after her,
so the politically inclined should contact the Clinton people. But the cure for Tulsi might also kill the patient Bernie in the process. Still can't figure out how he lost New York!?

No one in power or of any significance (in the media or political arena) has been able to connect the dots you have made in your latest posts... and what we have been posting on this forum for a decade! From Butler's tax free living status, to slave labor and child neglect, alleged drug money laundering, welfare, and immigration fraud, Tulsi's cult staff, to the Gabbard's secret life-long subjugation to a "mad monarch".

People fear to distinguish between a cult and an authentic religion, between (as you stated) guru-idolatry or Hindu Nationalist jingoism and Hinduism, between Islamic terrorism and the Muslim faith. While the information is all here on the CEI site, most people still don't get it until it is too late.

As I stated before, Bernie is stuck in a self-tightening Gordian Knot of his socialist ideology. This is an unfortunate side effect of the fine doctrine of multiculturalism. He can't wiggle out of this one without appearing less than liberal.

There is no way any one is going to connect Tulsi with Sri Shim's death when the Keystone Kailua Kops can't even conduct even a mediocre investigation. Who knows how high up a possible cover up goes?

Political endorsements are carefully considered. Bernie Sanders is no dummy and is running a remarkable campaign. But I am puzzled. As much as I like Bernie, if he hooked arms with Tulsi without knowing what she was about even politically, I have little hope for him being an apt President. If he is unaware of her secretive cult connections, that's understandable and hopefully correctable. If he is a former colleague of Willis Butler and is aware of his son Chris's guru connection, then he is a shameless politician like the rest of the bunch.



In my opinion.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: dabcult ()
Date: April 21, 2016 03:03AM

Good find Rama someone is digging a little deeper in knowing who is TULSI and her connections to Indian politic (sound like the author as look at my video on Tulsi)
But no major paper or TV channel is doing anything to expose her cult connections

I hope that Bernie will lose this Democratic race and that Hilary will turn the heat on exposing Tulsi Gabbard.....That could be a future video ..
"HILARY PLEASE CLEAN YOUR PARTY FROM DANGEROUS CULT "

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The Hand That Rocks the Cradle
Posted by: Vera City ()
Date: April 21, 2016 03:40AM

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IanKoviak
It must be madly embarrassing to butler and wai lana that their son amounted to shit and meanwhile the Gabbards flourished in terms of political stance and influence. Or maybe it means nothing to Butler who the pawn is as long as he can be the hand that moves it.

For any narcissist no one matters but who they can trap in their mirror.

Information from the much indoctrinated women from the girls school is sorely lacking at this time. I suggest you contact Shyam Dodge and read his book if you haven't already.

The problem lies in how the girls are indoctrinated and married off. They are less inclined to be independent and leave the cult.

Is there a possibility that Butler's step son Siddha is being groomed as the next Prabhupad?

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It isnt just Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: April 21, 2016 04:45AM

Readers, here is another point to consider.

Consider it possible, even likely, that other wealth and well connected
cult groups are watching the Sanders/Gabbard duo.

They will learn from this campaign, whether Sanders wins the White House or not.

What will they learn?

These other cults will learn how timid the media are, how reluctant editors and journalists are to ask questions about a public figure's true loyalties if that person plays the "religious freedom" card.

A cult is not defined by its beliefs. A cult is defined by its behaviors.

* Contempt for outsiders

* Group makes strategic efforts to conceal accurate information and attempts by former members to educate the public may result in threats, whether personal or threats of litigation (eg Scientology)..

* The name and identity of the actual leader of the group may be concealed.

* Anyone who leaves or kicked out, is despised. Members find it nearly impossible to preserve friendships with those who have left or who refuse
to share the group's beliefs -- unless those members keep such relationships secret from the group and its enforcers

* Lack of financial accountabililty, transparency

* Belief that they know better than we what is best for us

* No valid reason to disagree or dissent from their belief system

* If recruits knew full details of what is expected of them after they join, they would never go near the group.

A cult is a closed society, a society that rejects dissent, cannot admit it and its leaders are in error, and while smiling in public, regards
nonbelievers with contempt while courting non believers' votes.



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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: April 21, 2016 08:44AM

Quote: "For any narcissist no one matters but who they can trap in their mirror.

Information from the much indoctrinated women from the girls school is sorely lacking at this time. I suggest you contact Shyam Dodge and read his book if you haven't already.

The problem lies in how the girls are indoctrinated and married off. They are less inclined to be independent and leave the cult.

Is there a possibility that Butler's step son Siddha is being groomed as the next Prabhupad?”
End Quote.

Correct, Vera- the girls were married off and had babies--easily controlled- groomed to follow orders and be docile - to SERVE...

If Siddha Das is being groomed to be the next Prabhufraud- its gonna be tough if he is on the lam in New Zealand for being involved in the DEATH of Sri Shim......

Once again--the authorities need to go back and take a good hard listen to that 911 tape--the truth is there for all to HEAR!.....just sayin'.

As for Tulsi- we can keep hammering her with another truth- that she is merely a puppet for Butler. And its Butler who wants to sit in the White House and call all the shots- kinda like what he does in Kailua.
Keep in mind Bernie has not said one word about his running mate. Political pundits are saying that this will come down to Trump and Clinton as much as everyone will hate to see that. The advice to notify the Clinton team about "Tulsi the Puppet"is an excellent idea--and send it to Trump the Chump as well.
Wow- can you just imagine what Trump would say about this forum?
Best advice- just keep posting Henry’s videos and Rama’s posts as well as others under all the pro-Tulsi sites. It does make people go "..hey wait...what is this..."

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: dabcult ()
Date: April 21, 2016 09:32AM

"Is there a possibility that Butler's step son Siddha is being groomed as the next Prabhupad?”

No way ...it took 45 years to get Butler where he is ...he is a sick bastard
but he is also very smart when it comes to $$ and mind control .

Siddha is a narcisistic idiot ...no one will bow down to him .....well maybee Bhakti Gabbard when he is on crack ...

when Butler dies ...the cult dies ...

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Imagine someone with the money and no conscience who believes they are infallible engineering a willing puppet into power?
Posted by: Vera City ()
Date: April 21, 2016 03:44PM

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corboy
Consider it possible, even likely, that other wealth and well connected
cult groups are watching the Sanders/Gabbard duo.

They will learn from this campaign, whether Sanders wins the White House or not.

What will they learn?

These other cults will learn how timid the media are, how reluctant editors and journalists are to ask questions about a public figure's true loyalties if that person plays the "religious freedom" card.

A cult is not defined by its beliefs. A cult is defined by it's behaviors.


A cult is a closed society, a society that rejects dissent, cannot admit it and its leaders are in error, and while smiling in public, regards
nonbelievers with contempt while courting non believers' votes.

corboy ~

You bring up something else to seriously consider. Tulsi is setting a dangerous precedent. Additionally, we really do not know what they will do once they get in power. A person without power who whimsically thinks they are perfect can only do harm to a few followers. But imagine a person like this with access to a whole country with real power and means.

I am reading Oriana Fallaci's 1977 book Interview With History. She was an Italian socialist journalist who interviewed world leaders in the 1960's and 1970's. She was true journalist, astounding interviewer, and great writer. To this day no one holds a candle to Oriana Fallaci. She later fell out of popular favor as her views became more conservative, but few have had her courage and insight into the workings of power on men and women. Sadly, not only are there no journalists of her caliber given employment or access to political leaders, she is the only kind who would confront Tulsi Gabbard directly, intelligently and fearlessly. Because she was so adept at revealing the truth of those she interviewed that future generations of politicians have become more cautious of the press. At any rate, the book is worth a read to understand where we are at now politically and how we got here. Many things have not changed; nothing new under the sun.

Most of us have been incredibly naive about the whole election process until this wild 2016 campaign for the President. I know I have. I used to think our great history and the checks and balances of our government would be enough to sustain These United States of America and immunize us against becoming a despotic regime.

But imagine a few changing the rules slowly and quietly in plain sight.

Imagine someone with the money and no conscience who believes they are infallible while they are engineering a willing puppet into political power.

Imagine a world wide network of followers who believe in one man as the savior of the world, a man above sin, a man whose word is as good as God's; a group who is convinced of their own righteousness over the population and bent on transforming the culture into their image.

Imagine a group of political leaders so presumptuous to bypass the will of the people, thinking they are too ignorant and unwashed to guide their own lives without intervention and control.

Imagine a group of people using the laws and good will that protect our freedoms and democracy to advance a narcissistic figure head whose ultimate goal is to crush all dissent. At first it is peaceful so no one will notice.

Imagine a media controlled by only a few wealthy stake holders, a political party, or the government itself using the principles of democracy solely for profit margins and power without consideration for the good of the land and the people.

Imagine a populace too cowardly or naive to investigate, speak out or question, or even imagine the possibility of any wrong doing from a group of people on a "spiritual path" because of freedom of religion.

Imagine a political party or political leaders that are powerless, or too ignorant to vet cult members antithetical to democracy.

Imagine a cult getting into power and transforming our educational system and telling us, "Our children are not our children, that we are only sperm or egg donors for the state."

Never mind. This is all just too far fetched...

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