A friend of mine has received four hang-up, harrassing-type phone calls -- it seems to be how MOL treats defectors.

One of the calls was in German (my friend doesn't speak German)

Another of the calls was from "The Restart Room" at US phone number 619-668-5671. I wonder who is at the Restart Room. Is that MOL-talk for re-starting someone in MOL?

This shows MOL's attempts at intimidation and control. My friend is making a new life in the 'real world' free from being controlled!

There is an informative article on the LGAT thread re the effects and combination of humiliation and depression.

FYI : I have received numerous private messages from non-custodial parents who are concerned about their children, various ages, being raised inside of MOL by the custodial parents.

Also, other messages have referred to legal concerns, that knowledge of sexual secrets revealed in the Intensives and elsewhere in MOL are being used as leverage against them in legal matters.

However, there is NOthing that I can do to assist such. I also have never been privy to the inner workings of MOL - my children and I were only profoundly manipulated by 2nd hand effects. ALL that I know about MOL has been posted. I' simply 'did the right thing' to respond to another person's query on a different online bulletin board, then posted my info here also - in the hopes that others could benefit. I'm NOT on a personal vendeta against MOL or ANYone.

For those with the aformentioned concerns, I feel the deepest of compassion. I can only imagine the pain and frustration, on many levels.

Unfortunately, cult-savvy therapists and attorneys are rare.

As always, I suggest contacting the major cult-recovery groups for their recommendations. Rick Ross, ICSA, Factnet and others maintain lists of therapists in various areas. They also have their own attorneys, and may be able to recommend others who are familiar with cult related issues and psychological abuse.

My support to all of you in exiting this group, and in assisting your loved ones who are lost in MOLandia.

I can;t imagine the pain of these families torn apart by MOL. Of all of our ties as human beings, the strongest are those of family.

Seems to me that there are two things former (and present) MOL'rs are dealing with:
1. The emotional and psychological support needed to heal the trauma and reassemble themselves, and
2. Work with a knowledgable and experienced attorney AND a cult expert.

Those professionals are out there, and, like the poster above, I encourage people to seek them out; this website is a start, and also freedomofmond.com.

I know some former MOL'rs are doing these things, and others, unfortunately are unable to bring themselves to do so, being still under the control of the MOL hierarchy and their manipulations.

I applaud the recovering MOL'rs and past MOL'rs who reach out to help others. Their courage is impressive and admirable. For those in the shadows, may your healing begin.

kinds of difficult custody disputes--very valuable since men are often at a terrible disadantage in court. An excellent cover-your-butt resource.

Its possible that if you go to www.bpdcentral.com ( you may be able to get referrrals to attorneys who have experience in tricky custody suits.

[bpdcentral.com]

Love and Loathing:
Protecting Your Mental Health and Legal Rights When Your Partner has Borderline Personality Disorder
by Randi Kreger and Kim A. Williams

With additional material by:
J. Michael Bone, Ph.D.; James Novak; Michael Roe;
The Texas Fathers for Equal Rights;
Dean Tong; Michael R. Walsh; and Robert Weiss, LCSW

Love and Loathing is for people in romantic relationships in which one of the partners has BPD. Kreger and Williams discuss how to survive the romantic emotional roller coaster ride, how it affects children and how to decide what to do; legal experts explain how to deal with the legal issues often involved in divorce, such as child custody battles, false accusations, and restraining orders.

Compared to their old website there is now less informaton available on their website, since the various message boards have been active.

www.miracle.org

However, there is a way to examine previous editions of websites.

[www.archive.org]

which is otherwise known as the 'Wayback Machine'

Plug www.miracle.org into the search ('take me back') slot. It will take you to the older versions of their website that give names and descriptions of the intensive.

Be patient. Some of the hyperlinked citations go to dead links. Others will take you to past versions.

[web.archive.org]

go to both dates for 2004, december 24 2003, december 25 2002

and you will get old versions of the site. This list is by no means exhaustive, so click around. Again, you'll get some active links, some inert ones.

IMHO, the user groups are having an effect -- GOOD NEWS!


I think the best thing we could do now is to each keep posting and exchanging information; what one thinks isn't significant may help someone and/or may help them think of something that IS important

If someone is concerned about identity, use PM's

Slimy things under rocks just hate the bright light of day

Translation from a German article about cults in Europe, w/ a brief mention of Miracle of Love :

[www.fuoriradio.com]

German ''Stern'' magazine about the psycho-cult AVATAR

[Rispondi al messaggio] [it.cultura]

Subject: German ''Stern'' magazine about the psycho-cult AVATAR
Da: ronald-cools@wanadoo.nl (Ronald Cools)
Newsgroup: it.cultura
Organizzazione: Planet Internet
Data: Aug 24 2004 07:40:12
Message-ID: <cgekqn$lk2$1@reader08.wxs.nl>
User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437

GUÁRDESE DE DI AVATAR. Es un culto.
Ciò è il Web site italiano del AVATAR: [www.avatar-italia.it]
Più rivelazioni: [home.planet.nl]

Saluti,
Ronald Cools, Precedente autorizzato Avatar Master #1822
Amersfoort
Olanda
Teéfono 00-31-033-4756799
(Sono olandese, ma parlo inglese.)
=====================================================================
>
> "THE NEW PSYCHO-CULTS
> [excerpts translated from Stern Magazine--October 17, 2002]
>
> Yesterday, it was Scientology. Today the groups are called Avatar or MOL
> [Miracle of Love]. They bait their victims with esoterica and rake in
> millions
> around the world with their false promises. In Germany, hundreds of
> thousands have already fallen into their traps. The new PSYCHO-CULTS have
> no
> scruples: they are aggressive, totalitarian, inhuman. In Stern magazine,
> former
> members tell of their breakdowns in the clutches of sinister cults.
>
> The new supermen are among us. They promise immortality, overcoming
> instability, and at the very least, solutions for all of life's
challenges.
> The self-proclaimed gods, gurus and spiritual healers come right from our
> midst; they are med school drop-outs or theologians, mutated psychologists
> or accountants who are a few beads short of an abacus. Their prophesies
are
> slick, and their clientele is educated: professors, entrepreneurs,
doctors,
> local politicians, business leaders, actors.
>
> Up until recently, one name stood for cult power: Scientology. But these
> days, hundreds of smaller psycho-groups have flourished in the shadow of
> that
> money-hungry organization, unnoticed by the public. While they bear
magical
> sounding names such as Avatar, Jasmuheen, or Miracle of Love, their
leaders
> are quite mundane in nature. They discreetly recruit their followers in
> community college courses, health food stores or the alternative medicine
> scene.
>
> Meanwhile, over 600 psycho-groups have popped up in Germany, and the
market
> is bullish. They are the new danger, warn reputable experts on sects,
> because
> they hide a new form of extremism: aggressive, totalitarian and DANGEROUS.
> Accordingly, they present just as much of a threat as Scientology.
>
> These self-proclaimed saviors turn their devout disciples into slaves,
often
> practice brainwashing techniques and psychological terror, and rip off
their
> followers without compunction. Victims are compelled to break contact to
> their families and relinquish all their assets as part of their pact with
> their
> pseudo-gods. The numbers of people who even temporarily get mixed up with
> these high power psycho-cults is in the hundreds of thousands.
>
> Some of the groups are not even publicly known yet. Many of their former
> members hesitate to tell their stories, fearing reprisals from the gurus,
> and are usually ashamed of being bamboozled in such a perfidious way.
This
> vicious circle of silence and shame is well known from the early days of
> Scientology, when that religious corporation was still able to loot
without
> restrictions.
>
> Cloaked as an aid to self-discovery or consciousness expansion,
involvement
> often ends in social isolation, slavery and self-abandonment.
>
> A mystical patchwork that is lifestyle-compatible and high-tech: there is
> hardly any other psycho-group that represents the new designer gurus
better
> than Avatar. "Create the reality you prefer," states the central concept
of
> the teachings: life is a hard drive, hit F6 on the keyboard and start
over.
> According to Avatar literature, 60,000 people worldwide use the methods of
> this psycho-organization that is active in 66 countries. Flooding
esoteric
> journals with their advertising, thousands of licensed Avatar instructors
> have helped
> to build a psycho-empire. The guru is ex-Scientologist Harry Palmer, who
> founded the Avatar course in 1987. His wholehearted message: Imagine that
> everything is possible. The promise of the Avatar Master's Course is very
> fitting for
> our self-involved day and age: Take Control.
>
> DIVINITY IN SEVEN DAYS? No problem for Avatar. The organization swaggers
> confidently: In the past, you could count the enlightened people on the
> planet on one hand. Today they're in the thousands. In Hinduism, the
term
> refers
> to a deity that has assumed a physical form in order to take part in
> creation.
> And for every new avatar, Palmer cashes in grandly. The so-called
Master's
> Course with its promising name "Awakening," costs ¨$3,000; the Wizard
> Course as
> much as $7,500. For your money, you get (according to the advertising)
> EXTRASENCORY capabilities as well as leadership and co-creation of
> civilization. And if that isn't enough, also the ability to transform
> society. Palmer also holds the commercial reins and acts as president of
> Star's Edge
> International. The profit-oriented enterprise markets Avatar courses
> complete with the requisite materials.
>
> Still, not all of the Avatar disciples work aboveboard, as Gabriele H.
> experienced after booking a trip to Bali with an esoteric travel agency,
> Lotus Travel Service in Munich. In Bali she met Regine R., who had
enrolled
> directly with an Avatar vendor without knowing what or who was behind it.
> The lively
> forty-somethings encountered a die-hard Avatar course group at the
vacation
> camp. From that point on, the centerpiece of the trip was the basics of
> Avatar, not R&R: "Everything was controlled, you couldn't even make an
> unsupervised phone call." The two residents of Baden-Wuerttemberg flew
> home. Regine R. got her 3500 Marks back after threatening to sue.
>
> Even family members, friends and coworkers have to submit to Avatar's
pushy
> attempts to embrace them. Ruined friendships and broken relationships are
> the result. Twenty-three-year-old Aline M. from Saarland complains: "My
> boyfriend's family is totally wrapped up in it. His mother follows the
> tenets of Avatar fanatically." Her relationship is suffering, too: "My
> boyfriend
> is pretty much helpless, and is unable to answer questions. He can't get
> his
> life together any more. He is completely dependent in terms of his
> personality,
> which he denies, of course. Eventually, I couldn't even get near him."
>
> The portrayals resemble the now familiar experiences of cult victims on
the
> order of Scientology or the Moonies: inviolable leaders. Followers lose
> their sense of self, eventually falling under the spell of malicious mind
> control.
> The Avatar courses are reminiscent of Scientology.
>
> "We've heard that there have been nervous breakdowns and that people have
> not been looked after appropriately," says Hamburg cult expert Ursula
> Caberta.
>
>

dynamics. According to two well known professional exit counselors, who have guided folks out of the that cult, Kalindi/ Carol has purposely replicated the dynamics of enmeshed families, specifically those w/ lots of money and trust fund control issues... designed to make such controlled individuals initially feel that they've taken a step away from that control. Then they are taken in and provided with the same manipulative group dynamic with which they are accostomed.

Pretty sneaky (gotta give her credit for being smart, though)

These folks would not only be more manipulate-able but also would feel they have more to hide or 'be ashamed of' -- just what she's counting on.

When one fully commits to the fast trak to enlightenment through MOL, there is great recognition and support within the MOL community for such.

We know there are MOL communal living homes called "Men's Houses" and also "Ladies' Houses". It is an MOL honor to live in such a setting, with all fully devoted to achieving enlightenment together. All valuing the same Meditation Practice, and living by the same guidelines. Having thus removed the distractions / obstacles from the outside world, those living in such settings feel greatly bonded as they "do their work" together toward enlightenment.

We also know that many women have left their male partners or husbands to be spiritually married to Lord Gourasana (he's dead). There is a ritual wedding ceremony for this marriage. Those women who already have children, then tell their existing children that their stepfather is Gourasana, and they pray to their dead stepfather.
Men have likewise left their female partners to live in the "Men's Houses' in full pursuit of enlightenment.

Also, there have been babies born recently, who are claimed to be fathered by Gourasana (who has been dead for many years....).

Is there a ritual spiritual conception ceremony... either private or group, for the impregnation of Gourasana's so-called spiritual wives? Do the women know which man acted on behalf of Gourasana to father their baby? are the people masked?

No wonder those who leave MOL are so intimidated w/ being identified! Sigh. And yet, this is NOT their 'real selves' -- it's just the shell MOL created.