Bnei Baruch anyone?
Date: July 02, 2007 12:37AM
I stumbled across your discussions here and just had to share a few things with you. I can share that I have experienced firsthand the manipulative mind control techniques used at Bnei Baruch, but before I do that, I thought you may be interested in reading the follow excerpt from an interview made of Mr. Laitman, the leader of Bnei Baruch:
===============================================A Threat of Destruction Talks With a Kabbalist
A Threat of Destruction
Talks with the Kabbalist, Rabbi Michael Laitman
Vesty newspaper from November 4th, 2000
This is the second part, where Mr. Laitman begins to say something I find very sad.
E.S.: Is there still a way out of that trap?
R.L.: Yes, of course. But I need to warn you that this is the only way out and that you should use it immediately if we want to survive here and not to get drowned in our own blood. Today, when the process of capitulation is moving ahead in full pace, when the army is paralyzed, when the head of the state is paralyzed, when people are demoralized, we should still apply the maximum effort and swiftly change it all.
We should show the entire world that we would not let anyone destroy us. Israel should declare a state of war - we need a military rule, a government of national salvation, a government of generals and colonels - Sharon, Barak, Nataniyahu, whoever is ready to be a military chief, let them decide for themselves. These days we don't need a Knesset (parliament) where our natural enemies are sitting. Those enemies are the Arab deputies (by the way they don't hide it) and the peacemakers who paralyzed the people's will to live on this land. They gave weapons to our enemies and they are responsible for the blood that's been shed in the past several weeks.
It is not a government of national unity that we need but a military rule, which should take the full force of power and responsibility and make an intense preventive strike against Syria who is our main enemy. We should completely destroy its military machine and the camps where terrorists are trained. With Syria we are even formally in a state of war. It keeps Hizballah as a chained dog and this dog is trying to rip that chain and destroy us. Through it, Iran supports and trains the groups of terrorists who capture our soldiers. It's now time to acknowledge that the so-called war “Shlom aGalil” was an unjustified attempt to solve nothing. That's because how can you wage a war against guerillas who are supported and fed by Syria? It is only Syria who is our military adversary, who creates, trains and feeds all our enemies, both inside Israel and on the side of Lebanon. And is the fact that it does not conduct the war from its territory really clears the charges against the enemy?
We should destroy that threat. The Territories should be entirely blocked and a 24-hour curfew should be upheld. Of course, all this assumes complete disarmament of the Palestinian bandits and suppression of any resistance. Everyone, who does not want to live under those restrictions of the military rule and under full military control of Israel, should be deported to Syria (I hope I don't need to explain why not to Jordan).
I foresee a lot of shouts and objections against this scenario: international sanctions, international boycott, complete isolation. But I repeat once again, there can be nothing worse, than what is awaiting us, in case we do not resist. These are temporary, but completely necessary measures. To accomplish all that, we need not only the military power, but also the revival of the spirit, completely destroyed by the “peace process”. The alternative is the destruction of Israel, in fact, a terrible destruction.
We should clearly state to the world - we will remain on this land and will build the Third Temple for all mankind. We still have the strength and the capability to endure and to remain standing. If we do not take advantage of that now, it will be too late. We should show the world, that we will not let them annihilate us, even if we have to threaten to use of nuclear weapons.
We have been pushed into a tight corner - and I do not want to examine it on another level, where it is obvious, that we pushed ourselves into it. But everything is done by somebody else's hands, and those hands are dipped in our blood. Only the passionate desire to survive, understanding of the fact, that everybody will try to prevent us from doing just that, and the clear picture of our future, if we do not take advantage of this last opportunity, can save us.
I repeat: all kabbalists, who are capable of seeing and understanding the mechanism of how the future is formed, see one thing - a sea of Arabs and a sea of Jewish blood. And do not amuse yourself with illusions – illusions that you can escape and hide somewhere. As soon as Israel is overcome with a huge wave of Muslim invasion, as soon as blood bath starts, the terrible hatred will reach Jews everywhere - throughout the “enlightened world” (It will be even worse in the “blessed” America).
Only here you can save yourself and only here you can save all the Jews in the world, but it has to be done immediately. Salvation lies only in the full realization of the task at hand. It is said by prophets that as soon as Israel wishes to rebuild the Third Temple, the people of the world will
carry the sons of Israel on their shoulders to Jerusalem, and will help them do that - “Thus says the Lord God, Behold, I will lift up my hand to the nations, and set up my standard to the peoples: and they shall bring thy sons in their arms, and thy daughters shall be carried on their shoulders”
(Isaiah 49, 22).
E.S.: But where were you before, why were you silent when the process of capitulation began? Unlike the leaders in the national camp, you cannot say today, “I warned you!”
R.L.: I am neither Clinton, nor Netanyahu to appear on CNN or in our Knesset. I wrote articles, spoke on the radio, mentioned the prophesies of great Kabbalists in my books. Was there anyone who heard me? Today, when we are standing on the edge of the abyss, there is a slight hope that somebody will hear me. But what could I do then?
E.S.: Is there any time left to change things? Or, maybe, the laws of the upper worlds have already “snapped”, and the mechanism of our destruction has been activated. More than 50 years ago, Baal Sulam wrote about “the sea of Arabs” here.
R.L.: The violations of the laws of creation do not cause immediate reaction in our world. Enough time is always granted to correct things. Today time is really running out, but we can still try to stop this wheel of destruction. Concrete steps should be taken both in the political arena, by saving the state, and in the spiritual spheres, having received at least minimal knowledge of the laws of creation.
We have to do that in order not to violate them completely, to stop the impending annihilation and exile, to prevent the bloodbath, based on the model of the Jews who got lost in the Arab city of Ramallah (maybe not everyone have noticed that the prototype of things to come has already been demonstrated).
Right now, Israelis have to realize at least one simple thing: they must stop. The Peace process has never existed. The illusions of both Kremlin and Jerusalem dreamers about the immediate and universal prosperity, have always lead to bloodshed. At last, it is time to think not about the universal prosperity or the mythical peace and friendship among all nations, but about the survival of our own people and the given task that we have to accomplish for other peoples.
You have to clearly state - this is ours and we are not moving anywhere from this land. We can survive only here, and only here we can fulfill the mission assigned to us by the Creator. Even those who do not believe in this Creator, who do not want to hear anything about Him, should at least want to remain alive on this land.
Answering a question on building Kibbutzim in the Negev, where there is no water and no vegetation, Rabbi Ashlag once said: Anything can be achieved through prayer. But they do not believe in G-d - he was retorted. – That does not matter, - he answered, - they want to master this land so badly, that their desire is a prayer.
You cannot even imagine the power of the clearly directed intent of Jews to remain on this land! On the spiritual level, this is the main thing that can halt the terrible process, which leads to our annihilation.
And let no one think: they can cope without me, somebody else will stop it. All Jews carry collective responsibility for everything that is happening. This is the unbreakable cycle that is built into us, being the chosen people, and it is not revocable. Our only salvation is to fulfill our mission.
We have always been and will remain a chosen nation. But we have to always remember, what is the purpose of this “choosiness.” Only we can create a connection between mankind and the Creator. We introduced the concept of monotheism and of One common “supervision” from above. On this first stage, we, or more correctly, our forefathers, have fulfilled our mission.
E.S.: And what did we received back - exiles, persecutions and the culmination of that - Holocaust?
R.L.: What culmination are you talking about? I am trying to explain here that much more horrible things are still awaiting us! But you persistently refuse to hear that. We got exiles and persecution, not because we tried to fulfill our mission, but because we stopped doing so. Like today, nobody heard the warning about the Holocaust, which could have been avoided.
You always have the freedom of choice. One cannot revoke the laws of physics or the laws of the upper worlds. But we can use those laws if we understand them. The Jews did not want to go to Eretz Israel and create their own state.
E.S.: But the state of Israel was created anyway. Do you think it was an accident? Do you think that we got 50 years to enjoy our country in the Holy Land, only to have it all revoked now?
R.L.: Yes, the state was created, but it is not enough! I already explained that for every action from above, we have to respond with the corresponding action from below - that is from us. I have already mentioned in my previous interviews with you, that we were given back the land and the book of Zohar was “opened”. But we refused to accept neither one of them.
We do not wish to know which spiritual force is weighing on this land, and what is its nature. We do not explore the laws of connections between this land and our people: some scream - abandon the fairytales about the holy rocks and ground, only our life is holy. Others are screaming with the same loudness: this land was given to us by the Creator, but they do not have even the slightest desire to know why, what for, and who is He, anyway.
That is why, “hazara-be-tshuva” - or return to faith - does not have anything to do with the spiritual work that Jews have to perform on this land. We can see today that speculations on religion lead the country to a terrible split. One can also see the unbelievable hatred towards religious people in our society. All rational explanations of this hatred are not adequate.
Religious Jews do not serve in the army, they say. It is such nonsense to bicker about a small percentage of the male population, when they were talking about significant reductions in military draft. Non-kosher shops have to be closed, they say. No kidding! In Jerusalem alone their number have tripled over the last 10 years. Streets are being closed for prayer? But it takes only 3 minutes to go around it. This is all children's play.
The real reason of hatred towards religious Jews is the fact, that they do not fulfill their spiritual mission. Likewise, the reason of hatred towards all Jews lies in that they do not fulfill their mission towards mankind.
Generations of kabbalists worked to relay the Zohar to us and to make it accessible to our generation. And so what - one can find it in any bookstore, but how many people actually do open it, in order to understand our connection with G-d? According to which laws and how do we have to work with our soul, with our ego, to comprehend the Creator? How many people open it to grasp His plan, and then to operate the world with Him and in place of Him, in order to unlock the way to the spiritual worlds for all of mankind. We, in turn, are refusing our role in this world, and precisely for that, other peoples are persecuting and want to annihilate us.
E.S.: Until now the relationship between Jews and G-d has been their personal affair, hasn't it?
R.L.: Of course not! And non-Jews either understand or feel it unconsciously. We are slowing them down on their way to grasping the Creator. Many times outside of Israel, I heard complaints of non-Jews, who very clearly sensed our mission and asked, “Why don't you build the Third Temple? Why don't you master the highest levels of “command” and relay that knowledge to the rest of the world?”
This is an absolutely accurate question, which is being asked by the people who understand our goal. In your paper you published a letter from Muslim leaders in Italy. Take a look at what they say: “The Jewish people must once and far all acknowledge their G-d given right to the Land of Israel.”
I don't want to bring up here long citations, but don't be lazy and look up what Muslim believers are writing, quoting passages from Koran. They know, as many others do, that in fact the people of Israel have to bring the “highest” knowledge to the world. If we do not bring this knowledge of the spiritual world, of the laws of this world, to other peoples, we are putting up hurdles for all the people in the world to achieve “correction”, and therefore perfection and happiness. This is being felt subconsciously everywhere in the world, and is revealed in the hatred of Israel.
But the Creator is asking the same of us. That's why we feel pressure from both sides - neither the Creator, nor any of the peoples of the world, are our friends and guardians today. Anti-Semitism is a demand of the peoples of the world from the people of Israel to fulfill its purpose. I am telling you this, so that you understand the concept of anti-Semitism on the spiritual level.
I hope that you will not conclude, based on the above, that this acquits anti-Semites in the material world. And getting back to the material level, you can see for yourself that we provide an opportunity to be thrown out of here. While it was done at the negotiating table, we, like stupid lambs were friskily running toward the mirage of peace. Now that we are being shot at, we are shyly firing back, leaving the wounded to run out of blood, due to the fear of hurting the peaceful Palestinian shepherds.
E.S.: You are saying that all Kabbalists are seeing the same horrible picture. But during the last seven years, hundreds of totally secular people, who know nothing of Kabbalah and of higher worlds, were giving exactly the same warning. Whom did that help?
R.L.: Certainly, there are enough sober and reasonable people in Israel, who can figure out historical causes and effects. The problem is that no one believes reasonable people. The only people who believe them - is the small amount of other reasonable people. Crazies and people, who are possessed by a universal intoxication of immediate peace - even if only for 48 hours - and happiness for all of mankind. They will call those reasonable people obscurantist instigators, as well as I, who did not study history, and do not understand politics, but have different tools to foresee our future.
And maybe, possibly, that it is exactly for those people, who are deaf and possessed with “peace” (which is a case of religious ecstasy), a warning by a Kabballist - the last argument, that can stop them on the edge of the abyss, where their beloved “peace” fell, and where it is pulling all of us.
That is why I say, “Stop and defend yourselves, otherwise you will die a horrible death!”
We, immigrants from the former USSR, know very well what to do when “the motherland is in danger” [Reference to WWII]. And if we did not compose any new songs that raise the spirit of the people, at least let us remember the old one, “We are in the people's war, the sacred war!” Yes, we will have to fight “the cursed horde” and we should not have even the smallest illusions regarding its intent to annihilate us.
We must fight and we must win. We no longer have the right to beg them for peace and humiliate ourselves. In this humiliating posture it will not take them much effort to destroy us. Israel is ready for war, but only on the technical level. In order for the fundamental changes to take place, the
people have to want it and demand it from their leaders. Without this demand from below, without the will to live and resist, Israel cannot be saved.
Interviewer: E. Sotnikov
Translation: P. Stremt, I. Kohov
Proofreading: C. Marce, C. Ratz
This is published on their site until only recently, when they finally pulled it from online after several students questioned it.
Pleas note that the date this was first published was just before things began to deteriate again into violence, after all the hard work Pres. Clinton and his administration did to bring peace to the middle east. Therefore, one can only blame Mr. Laitman for at least being a part of the negative influence on the middle east again. It is such a shame too.