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In telling Michelle’s story, I hoped to start a conversation that would give people an opportunity to look more deeply at these issues in a way that might help generate some understanding, and maybe even some healing.

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Grateful Rage
Having said that, I found Katie's technique very helpful in changing my feelings about the past. There was absolutely nothing to be done about the traumas; no lawsuits, police reports, revenge, nothing. The only way to get happier was to find a way to just feel differently about it all, and the inquiry method - which I learned from Loving What Is, helped me.

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Healing from trauma involves much more than lawsuits, police reports and revenge. In fact many, if not most trauma survivors can't or don't sue for a multitude of reasons.

There are many ways to address and heal from trauma. I suggest you seek help from licensed therapists. Denial is not an effective healing method and blaming yourself, as BK encourages, is dangerous and will certainly make things worse.

I'd like to share a new method that I've discovered, of healing trauma through the body. it was developed by David Berceli, a Licensed Massage Therapist and Licensed Clinical Social Worker. It involves invoking the body's natural tremoring (shaking) mechanism to release the stored effects of past trauma. Because of danger and social conditioning, during and after traumatic events, we suppress the natural shaking that the body needs to throw off the physical and other effects of the trauma and move on. Animals do this but our social conditioning doesn't allow physical expression of fear and vulnerability. Berceli's method is called TRE (trauma release exercise) and a good book to start with is The Revolutionary Trauma Release Method -Transcend Your Toughest Times by David Berceli.[/quote

You obviously don't understand what BK is teaching, and are not qualified to speak about how some of us have used it.
You know nothing of my education, or the kind of treatment I've had, yet presume to tell me what I should do.
You obviously know nothing about the nature of trauma, and are peddling some worthless snake oil invented by a massage therapist / social worker.

Eventually Berceli will be revealed as an egomaniacal hustler, and people will be on this list complaining about him and his 'TRE'.
Anytime a guy writes a book about himself promoting his work as 'Revolutionary', run the other way.

If money brought happiness, there would be no expensive LGATs.

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Healing from trauma involves much more than lawsuits, police reports and revenge. In fact many, if not most trauma survivors can't or don't sue for a multitude of reasons.

There are many ways to address and heal from trauma. I suggest you seek help from licensed therapists. Denial is not an effective healing method and blaming yourself, as BK encourages, is dangerous and will certainly make things worse.

I'd like to share a new method that I've discovered, of healing trauma through the body. it was developed by David Berceli, a Licensed Massage Therapist and Licensed Clinical Social Worker. It involves invoking the body's natural tremoring (shaking) mechanism to release the stored effects of past trauma. Because of danger and social conditioning, during and after traumatic events, we suppress the natural shaking that the body needs to throw off the physical and other effects of the trauma and move on. Animals do this but our social conditioning doesn't allow physical expression of fear and vulnerability. Berceli's method is called TRE (trauma release exercise) and a good book to start with is The Revolutionary Trauma Release Method -Transcend Your Toughest Times by David Berceli.

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The current researched and tested psychological methods for treating trauma and PTSD have nothing to do with either of these so-called methods being mentioned.

This "method" by Berceli sounds like extremely dangerous quackery.
The most dangerous thing a person can do with PTSD and trauma is extreme "flooding" like that, without any supports. A person can completely decompensate, and then what?
Hospitalization, or even suicide. PTSD and trauma are very dangerous.

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Grateful Rage
You obviously don't understand what BK is teaching, and are not qualified to speak about how some of us have used it.
You know nothing of my education, or the kind of treatment I've had, yet presume to tell me what I should do.
You obviously know nothing about the nature of trauma, and are peddling some worthless snake oil invented by a massage therapist / social worker.

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She actually tells this poor woman that she shouldn't worry about war, because the FLOWERS ON THE TABLE are not worrying about war.

That's right. The flowers. They're not worried. They have no brain. Be like the flowers.

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She actually tells this poor woman that she shouldn't worry about war, because the FLOWERS ON THE TABLE are not worrying about war.

That's right. The flowers. They're not worried. They have no brain. Be like the flowers.

My rational mind tells me this is about accepting what is reality. When I accept reality, my mind is open & free to take appropriate protective actions.

Reminds me of words from another:

"Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes? Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life?

"And why do you worry about clothes? See how the lilies of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. "

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Although The Work is presented as for anyone of any religion, once I became a part of Katie's captive audience, it became very clear that was no so. Katie claims to have no beliefs, because she is "clear" and lives in "reality" or "heaven", her belief system is actually very strong, very distinct, and very anti-Christian. And, anyone whose belief system doesn't match hers is treated like the "unenlightened" sap who needs to keep questioning his/her thoughts until they can see things Katie's way.

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I worked for Byron Katie for about 12 years. The larger part of those years as a volunteer, and some years as a paid employee. When Katie started the Certification Program in 2008, I was among the first 20 certified people who were placed on the website. In May 2008 I noticed that my name and profile were taken off of the facilitators website, initially without notification or explanation. Many people want to know why. I receive a lot of questions about this through email, phone calls and during my workshops. The answer to those questions is not easily given, as the story is quite complex and goes back so many years. That is why I decided to write it down and publish it.

For 8 of those 12 years, I built my company, The Working Company, based on The Work. I always had Katie’s full support in this. My training program, The Working Coach, became quite successful throughout Europe, and sharing The Work with people became a full time job. When Katie removed my name from her website, the enrollment for my workshops dropped with 85%, almost overnight, and thus my income.