Very well said zeus. I also thought if DJ could ever PAUSE and think before he spews his venom on innocent people, he would save himself from eating the glutton’s amounts of crow he keeps feeding himself. I'd like to why each time McKay's latest conspiracy theory crumbles, WHY WHY WHY he doesn't ever LEARN and WHY WHY WHY next time some little life glitch happens-David doesn't PAUSE-THINK BACK-REMEMBER LAST WEEKS?LAST MONTHS PARANOID FALSE ACCUSATIONS AND JUST WAIT TO SEE IF THERE IS SOME NATURAL EXPLANTION FOR THE GLITCH but no David points his fingers, shouts so loud even Satan hides, rants, discerns, uses his magic powers to come up with some bizarre theory that explains absolutely nothing but he will just spew it anyway. And he never corrects or retracts anything when he is quickly proven to have been wrong and lying. He'll just come up with some new wild idea and print that instead.
SHORT MEMORIES ABOUND AT THE JC SITE. People who are friendly with the J.C.’s need to remember how quickly the J.C.’s turn and make you the enemy. Then where are all your fine Jesus like friends? The very friendly J.C.’s you now defending AGAIN not so long ago called you every single name they subscribe to all their enemies.
Another example is the faithful few who follow David and then also the hangers on who semi follow<> When David or another member has some issue with someone, they seem to try to draw others into sadisticly jumping on and isolating their victim. All you have to do is look at their special forum section called Resolving Differences which is just the spot where they go to verbally whip people. How many people have been their victims? Victims of lunatic conjecture. False accusations of mental disorders, lying, deception, fraud, fake I.D.'s and it just goes on and on. They rumormonger behind their victims back and then pounce using all the info the person has posted about themselves whether its health issues, spiritual problems, marriage tiffs, child issues- The J.C.’s stop at nothing and nothing is too low to use to “whip” the person.
CASE IN POINT IS KIRSTIE-she has been on the receiving end of horrible abuse from David and the J.C’s on several occasions. Yet she gets back into the fold, after loudly swearing she is finished with them forever and thankful to be free of them. Then she falls back in with the J.C.’s and again everyone else is the bad guy, picking on the sweet innocent J.C.s. as she did last week, was one of the worst, most unkind abuser to a woman on the J.C. forum. The (a senior person-aged 65 ishly) woman’s great sin was to be posting requesting the J.C.’s to leave alone one of her family members who they had been communicating with and inviting to a trial week. I was also invited to their trial week in the US and I had been in communication with a "weighty" J.C. so I do know they quickly invite people to “sign on”.Anyway this old lady was posting as she had apparently found the J.C. books and CD’s etc in their home and didn’t like what she saw. I believe she had also done some research and been in touch with EX’s and some cult busters. So she posted something telling them to stay away from the young person in her family. The J.C.’s reacted in their typical fashion by attacking this woman and her family, making threats to call people who live near the family and spew lies. David went so far as to say this woman might be holding her young family member as a hostage tied up in the cellar. POSSIBLE MURDER WAS MENTIONED BY DAVID-though of course he is such a coward he phrases his accusations in questions. Plus for some reason the J.C's also attacked the character of the younger family member and divulged all his/her personal data on their forum. The young person then appears on the forum begging for the abuse to stop, they have a dying family member, stress everywhere and she/he wants the personal info removed. NO WAY. NO MERCY. THEY STRIKE AND ABUSE THEIR POTENTIAL SUGGESTING SHE IS SICK IN THE HEAD AND A DOUBLE PERSONALITY TELLING HER OFF FOR HER MAKING UP WITH HER MOTHER AND NOT DEFENDING THEM. WHAT? THEY WANT TO BREED DISENTION WITHIN THE FAMILY!!! PAST REPEATS.PATHETICALLY KIRSTIE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TO JOIN IN WITH DAVIDS NONSENSE OF ABUSING SOMEONE IN PUBLIC, ENCOUAGING OTHERS TO JOIN IN AND HER VERY COMPLAINT OF HER “FRIENDS” FALLING SILENT WERE THE VERY THING WE ALL SAW THEIR LATEST VICTIM COMPLAINING OF. Again Kirstie well trained by the master abuser embedded her slurs carefully in questions “I’M JUST SAYING THIS BECAUSE I LOVE JESUS AND I WANT TO HELP OTHERS” but her topic she started was entitled-
“Mental Illness and Beau (the old ladies name)”
Kirstie also followed David around, from post to post loving the encouragement she was receiving for being on board with his nonsense accusations and attacks. She was so clearly attacking the person with the same accusations she had leveled against her some time ago.
Here are a few of Kirsties posts from the EX forum when SHE was under attack by the J.C. wolves.
Post made by Kirstie
Thank you, Blackhat, TonyB, Gertrude and Apostate. It has been a long slog for me to get where i am now, i thought i had finished with them months ago, im not sure what drew me back in to wanting peace with them. But now thier true colours are shown, and they are not pretty. I thank God that i am free of thier control, and glad i didnt get in further with thier games.
They accuse me of lying when they are the ones doing the lying, like the fact that Dave posed as "somebody", he also did it a few months ago when he posed as "Bettina" and he got me to say lots of things and then used that information against me. I think that is what happened about this whole Berni thing. If anyone on here does know who Berni is what she does please do tell me, cause i am still very confused about that. I never did try to email anyone called Berni, not even someone i thought was her, but it doesnt really matter anyway.
I am done with the Jesus Christains forever, Private Eyes, if you are reading this, sorry i didnt take your advice in the first place, i should not have gone back looking for peace, it only bought pain.
Oh what a relief to have them out of my life for good, I have learnt my lesson though, for good this time.
ANOTHER POST MADE BY KIRSTIE
Another explaination of why the Jesus Christians believe i am lying could be what Franky and I were talking about the other day, we were discussing what has happened with the whole Berni thing. We think maybe what could have happened is that when Franky advertised her password on the JC forum, someone took it and used it to access her emails on the RR forum. There could have been talk a while ago that i was going to email Berni, so the JC's took that as gospel and said that i did email her. Either way Franky thinks the JC's have accessed her account.... so that is why they wont prove where thier information comes from, because it would show who the devious people are here...
Not to mention what happened when Dave used Bettina's email to get to me....
Who is lying and decieving really??
ANOTHER POST BY KIRSTIE ON THE EX SITE
Hi, yes i am Kirstie. Just in case anyone was wondering.
Kevin it is nice to see you on this foum, i have heard a lot about you.
Thank you for your support.
I actually really like some of the Jesus Christians and i really thought we were making head way. Sue and Roland came over for dinner and we had such a great evening. I wanted to be friends with them as they are nice people. Having said that for people that i considered my friends they have not shown me much friendship. I have been verbally attack by Fran and Casey and where is Sue with her comments? You see for me when a friend is being attacked, (which of course is what happened with Franky) then as a friend i think a person should speak up against injustice.
It is 4 months ago! The same thing happened then, when i left the JC's (association with them) i was attacked but the people that i had got to know said nothing in my defense, which is why i originally went to the RR forum. I was left to freeze and no-one was there to wrap me up.
The reason i stuck up for Franky in the first place is because i believe her to be a warm, caring and loving person. So she has made mistakes, mistakes that i think she would probably like to be sorted out. But she went to the forum asking for forgiveness but they didnt want to know. I had to say something i could not sit back and let her be riped apart, she has been through enough with the Jesus Christians. It is time they looked at thier part in all of this and tried to do something about it rather than let it get totally out of hand... but of course if they did that then they would have to apologise for the things of the past, and that could not possibly happen, so instead they will continue to attack and cause pain.
KIRSTIE POSTED THIS ON THE J.C. SITE
I wanted to be friends with you, i wanted honesty and love, but it looks like that is never going to happen. All you want is arguments and accusations.
And for everyone else... i am not lying i really dont remember ever emailing anyone i thought was Berni, i have gone through my emails and there is not one there to Berni or someone who may have been pretending to be Berni. Obviously people are working together here to catch me out? or something like that but i am being honest... but that obviousy does not matter to them!
Goodbye forever, have nice lives..... decieving people!
SO I JUST WONDER HOW KIRSTIE RECONSILES THE FACT THAT WHILE SHE HAD A HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE WITH THE J.C’S HERSELF-EXPERIENCED THEIR PARANOIA AND FASLE ACCUSSTIONS-WHY IS SHE ONE OF THE FIRST TO SIDE WITH DAVID IN ATTACKING BEAU AND SISI BOTH? DIDN’T SHE REMEMBER HOW BAD SHE FELT WHEN SHE WAS THE TARGET OF THE J.C’S ATTACKS ON HER?
SHERRY-DAVIDS WIFE SAYS OF KIRSTIE
We question Kirstie about where she really stands. Kirstie has a track record that not only makes it difficult for the Jesus Christians to trust her, it must be hard for the enemies of the Jesus Christians to trust her as well, and she has been much more loyal to them than she has been to us.
This is Sherry trying to make sure Kirstie feels cut off on all sides. Sherry attempts to sow seeds of distrust against Kirstie and attacks her loyalty so I do understand why now Kirstie is desperate not to be seen as disloyal and why she feels she has to “jump” others to prove herself loyal to the cult. It’s sad. The same thing Kirstie had hoped for-mercy and empathy was what she would not give to another.
I also thought this post made by BLACKHAT was so accurate
“Somebody set the tone for the treatment of Kirstie. Somebody put down the blood-trail for the wolves to follow. Somebody harbours revenge and cannot forgive. Somebody has no empathy.”
Blackhat clearly was pointing at David. Yet we see now Kirstie HAS gone back to the J.C.’s and thinks David likes and trusts her. Can she really believe he forgives? Has he shown that to be in his past? I wonder what would happen if Kirstie disagreed with David again? She’d be right back getting called mentally disturbed, a liar and a bad person-same place she was and same place she saw Beau getting put and rather than either remain silent, Kirstie opted to jump in with David and make mad speculations about the person all over the J.C. forum.
Kirstie learned well from the J.C.’s-it’s obvious the more time you spend around their forum the more you adopt David’s cowardly way of framing his accusations as questions and also refusing to be accountable when proven wrong.
Right now that master of lies DJ is saying on the J.C site:
Of course, while we have the likes of Liesel and Brian and Malcolm calling for me and other JCs to be killed, and medals to be awarded to anyone who does it, Sheila and Jared will continue to believe that what they did was brave and honourable.
There is much more that we would like to say, but it has to wait for a couple more weeks. In the meantime, Liesel, Brian, and Malcolm continue to spew their hate for me and their support for Sheila, the Johnsons' continue to repeat Craig's mantra about us being killers for Christ, and Kevin continues to maintain that Sheila and company did nothing worse to Reinhard than anything that we have done to one another. And they all congregate on the X site, where each one sings a different part in the choir, but it all harmonises in one word: hate (with "murder" echoing somewhere in the background, just quietly enough that no one quite knows which singers are saying it).
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What an absolute delusional fool! Get this old dude a good physiatrist.