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richardmgreen
We're the ones who taught the world about the sanctity of life.
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richardmgreen
regarding the issue of anti-semetism and criticism of israel, it is the israelis and their jewish supporters that have made israel a religious issue,
Absolutely false. What do you think motivates Hamas, Hezollah? Secularism? Are you kidding? Israel allows freedom of religion within its borders, gives women rights, allows gay parades. These kinds of freedoms barely exist ANYWHERE in the Muslim world.
Also, as for Israel's birth, you may be too young to have heard of things such as "World War 2" or the "Holocaust". You might want to look them up first.
Also, you may not know this but Xtianity is a slur used by neo-nazi extremists who hate Christianity. Their main problem with it is that it is based on a Jew and in the Nazi future, even Christianity must be done away with as discussion of it will inevitably keep Judaism alive in people's memory. Are you one of those "Hindo-Aryan myth" types? Or are you actually a Hindu? You sound like a Savitri Devi type or something...
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Absolutely false. What do you think motivates Hamas, Hezollah? Secularism? Are you kidding? Israel allows freedom of religion within its borders, gives women rights, allows gay parades. These kinds of freedoms barely exist ANYWHERE in the Muslim world.
Also, as for Israel's birth, you may be too young to have heard of things such as "World War 2" or the "Holocaust". You might want to look them up first.
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The founder of the JDL gave an interview in a Jewish magazine and said that much antisemitism comes about because the Jews are a small group who are very influential. I'm Jewish myself and the impact my people have had on the world is staggering. We sparked off a spiritual path that created 2 derivative world religions, namely Islam and Christianity and about 1/2 of the world's population is monotheist now as a result.
We're the ones who taught the world about the sanctity of life. Before the arabs became moslems for example, they were a series of loosely confederated tribes who were killing each other.
Whenever you look at even politics and other fields, many times when a new idea is needed someone who is Jewish writes a new book. Marxism, psychiatry etc.. The Jews as a group are innovators and influential.
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What about WWII and the Holocaust? Even if we are to believe everything about the "official" historyQuote
Yeah, I knew you'd show your true colors eventually. You are not an "earnest skeptic of Israeli policy who loves all people". You are a holocaust denier. Thanks for clearing that up!
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What about WWII and the Holocaust? Even if we are to believe everything about the "official" historyQuote
Yeah, I knew you'd show your true colors eventually. You are not an "earnest skeptic of Israeli policy who loves all people". You are a holocaust denier. Thanks for clearing that up!
Typical of the crowd that likes to slander other people by these buzzwords. What's worse is that by ignoring my main question you seem to excuse the slaughter of Palestinians in the process of creating the state of Israel. Is it safe to assume that since you fail to answer my question?
I actually don't take an extreme stance like completely denying the Holocaust since Holocaust survivors are real off course. From what I have gathered so far, it seems like the crux of these "deniers" are simply questioning the official number of 6 million dead. Can it possibly be less?
Take a look here about Bromberg Bloody Sunday:
[en.wikipedia.org])
The Germans have stated 58,000 were killed by Poles, but looking on that Wikipedia page it shows that Jews actually challenge that number and offer far less numbers actually dead by claiming it is "Nazi propaganda". It seems like they are Bloody Sunday deniers?
When I put official in quotes I was not just referring to the Holocaust rather the whole history of WWII. Either way I still don't believe that somehow gives them the right to establish an occupied territory as you imply.
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Either way I still don't believe that somehow gives them the right to establish an occupied territory as you imply.
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Either way I still don't believe that somehow gives them the right to establish an occupied territory as you imply.
OK, so what justified Islamic conquest of what was formerly Israel in previous centuries? If we are going to go back in time, where does one draw the line? Do you support Jews having their homes and land, which was stolen from them, in Muslim countries returned to them?
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No I don't support such a homeland that involves forced displacement of indigenous people and a government that participates in ethnic cleansing. In my eyes you lose any shred of credibility in criticizing "jihadi death cultists" if you embrace such a way of thinking despite the reality of such ancient history.
This is what you are implying that its payback time?
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Ethnic cleansing? Give me the numbers on the Palestinian population over the last fifty years.
No, I'm not implying "payback time". I support a Palestinian state. They will get it much sooner the second they stop supporting terror against innocent civilians. Do you support suicide bombing? Yes or no.