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Here’s a YouTube upload via Questions for Science where facts are utilised to pick apart some of Teal Swans claims: Note: others are included in the video too, the upload discusses the topic of “crystal healing”.
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2 months ago
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I recall reading and replying to this thread some time ago, it is interesting to see the update Jupiter has posted, and I feel sad to read about those body jibes, it is no consolation but worth noting that peoples name calling (and accusations) is where that person is in themselves, it is never about the person targeted. Words belong with their speaker. I am also sad to re-read corboys experience
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2 months ago
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Thank you for validating my experience, and that of others too Corboy. QuoteThe first step to creating a community of enablers is for the abuser to convince us that our fellow feeling for abused persons is wrong, stupid, lacking in sophistication. - this point is so important for everyone to understand.
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
2 months ago
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“Kundalini rising” and or “feminine energy” is a similar use (and reframing) of sex across the board in various practices, may play a part in why those who simply call it what it is see no problem in it, and those engaging may not either. Orgasm affects brain chemistry, so people naturally feel benefits of it.. usually meditation alone creates the chemistry to achieve “kundalini rising” etc, s
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2 months ago
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Here’s a look inside an easily overlooked area when involved in abusive groups. Is the contempt shown towards abusive behaviour more important than the abusive behaviour itself? Contempt for abuse is an adequate, valid feeling state which is instrumental in being able to move on from abuse. Long have we all been taught to have compassion for people who continuously set out to harm other
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2 months ago
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In case of interest, this article relates to parental favouritism, which is not the same as the guru / adherent situation however (in my own, personal view) does share the same dynamic overall. QuoteWhat are the effects of favoritism on the children? According to Mallory Williams, LCSW, there are serious long-term effects to growing up in a household of parental favoritism. “The biggest
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2 months ago
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This aspect in particular of ocd p stands out, there is a culture amongst those who feel very challenged by views about something opposite to their own where people are told that they are doing a practice incorrectly, in particular I have in mind meditation... which would then tie in looping with the problem of straying away from a rigidly held belief causes dissonance. Rigidity is perhaps the se
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2 months ago
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Thanks both, I’ll take a look and learn more.
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3 months ago
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Plenty of devout people may pop up to tell us that our experience of the group is faulty, not the group. They want to protect the group for their own reasoning, and not anything else. Here is an answer (from someone’s personal real life experience) to the question “what is the dark side of iskcon?” which will help acknowledge experiences that were not pleasant and are dismissed by others be
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3 months ago
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Hi Garuna, That sounds like it will work for them with the vaccine. I can understand why anybody would not wish to receive it, although I personally do not perceive it to be a weapon. This would be a very time consuming way to go about something that if we’re talking about weapons for humanity, could be done quite easily in other ways a plenty. Amoo, I see that it is important to you that p
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3 months ago
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QuoteThus, without mentioning the potentially adverse effects in newspaper coverage and in meditation programs on campuses may lead some to discredit and dismiss students' adverse experiences that may have long-term undesirable consequences. - it is a shame that this “discrediting” also comes in the form of those who have the luxury of not experiencing and perhaps not even noticing /
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3 months ago
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QuoteThree biases The Gita’s western trajectory was primarily responsible for three biases that continue to inform politics in India today. The first bias is that the Bhagavad Gita was and is the most representative text of Indian philosophy. This is by no means true because in earlier times there were many contending philosophical schools in India and the interpretations of Bhagava
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3 months ago
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In addition to the last post, “commentary” is someone’s own personal flavour. Many “commentaries” on the original Baghavad Gita exist, which if the Gita is as it is, would need no such commentary. Tradition is handed down, although not without the additional flavours of someone else. Continuing on, an interesting link on how Russia was forced into accepting the Baghavad Gita As It Is, desp
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QuoteIt’s actually been scientifically proven that individuals who struggle with mental illness are at high-risk when they meditate – as they continue to access the recesses of their mind through the practice of meditation, memories of prior trauma, psychosis, and hallucinations or delusions can transmit into a state of manic behavior or thoughts. QuoteIn 1977, the American Psychiatric As
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Hi Gary, Yes it’s true you were and are never alone on this topic, neither was I, but it can feel like it as it’s so isolating.. unless it’s someone else who’s fallen in too. So many people get wrapped into it, not difficult especially since the internet gave the ability to people like this for more visibility, and to any age who have the ability to search the web, access YouTube or use soc
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3 months ago
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Maybe because the moderator came in and mentioned something :-) I think it is a valuable thing to be able to come onto a specialist forum such as this one and quote the scriptures of Krishna consciousness to those who have come away from it, they will have to behave in order to maintain their account. For the purpose of those who may not not know: It is worth mentioning that Krishna conscio
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Hi George, It is so good to read your post and see that you are out of it all, I can relate to what you say so much. Cannot believe that I used to sit and give these people time, space in my head, and money.. but I did. When you said QuoteHITLERS WAS on of them..he is a good paradigm ..He wasn t for good wasn t he? He was talking for a new earth TOO, A NEW WORLD MADE IN HIS OWN CRITERIA PER
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I enjoyed reading this recent thesis in which the writer shares valuable insight (regarding its title) into yoga, as well as meditation and other mindfulness practices, maybe others here will enjoy it too; Experiences of Shame, Exclusion, & Appropriation in Mindfulness-based Wellness Culture Charlotte Grace Starling Portland State University Apologies if it has already been poste
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QuoteOften the people doing the appropriating belong to a privileged group, while the people they take from belong to an oppressed or marginalized group. This is an excellent article found online regarding the subject of Cultural Appropriation. https://www.healthline.com/health/cultural-appreciation It will not apply to everybody involved in this threads group mentions, if it does then
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3 months ago
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Meditation is definitely interesting, but it can also have its adverse affects as with anything. It also pays to recognise that meditation is not originally a part of everyone’s various cultures.. for some, meditation just isn’t something that they want or need to do. For many today, meditation is simply a business - a paid for service to support someone’s financial / material needs. Pe
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.. note, as a gesture of goodwill which I hope will help with feeling better, since you stumbled across my posts I’d like to add my sincerest apology for any offence caused to you personally. It doesn’t include any other “beings” or people, just you Dandelion. Hopefully things can feel a bit lighter for you sooner :-)
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Hello Dandelion, I hope that you are doing well. The post you made suggests “we”, are you one person or a group? It does not appear as a typographical error as there are a few references to this so would like to clear that up. It would probably help if I clearly outline to you again that when I post here, I am posting to those who are no longer interested in (insert whichever practice i
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3 months ago
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This information is copied completely from a page on Rational Wiki, found via the link at the end. “Some thoughts from an ex devotee to add to this page” Hi everyone, I'm not sure this is the right way for me to go about things but here goes: I noticed that the page for International Society for Krishna Consciousness is closed - or at least, I can't edit the main (first) body of
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QuoteEnlightenment is the purpose of human existence and the highest stage of the development of consciousness Hi Dandelion, Not everyone has the same beliefs. If you choose a belief, that is fine.. although it is not for everyone. My post offers an undoing for those who are wanting to affect a change in their own lives, and offer an alternative view - it is not intended a general anno
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4 months ago
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If it wasn’t for meat eating, none of us would be standing here today.. pun absolutely intended :D QuoteHigh meat intake correlates with moderate fertility, high intelligence, good health, and longevity with consequent population stability, whereas low meat/high cereal intake (short of starvation) correlates with high fertility, disease, and population booms and busts. Too high a meat intake a
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4 months ago
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OMG - Oh My God is a film currently available to watch online in various places, there is a full synopsis written about it on Wikipedia to check if the film is right for you to watch. There is also a warning before the film in some cases that states it is a work of fiction, and that no offence is meant toward any particular religious sects etc. ! I think it is a good film with a nice mes
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4 months ago
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- in addition to the post on superiority complex above, it is worth noting that in part, it is this complex that allows some people both the gusto, and misplaced normality, that they can freely take something from others that simply does not belong to them.
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4 months ago
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Most cults offer a space that provides a place to feel superior over others, Krishna Consciousness provides such a space most obviously by separating meat eaters as “karmies”, this is just one example. One is superior, the other is inferior - yes there is another, please discount any notion of oneness in this explanation. Spotting superiority complex is easy when reading a little bit about
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4 months ago
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QuoteEven though I decided to enter the hole, I still don’t get how it all happened. .. and I agree, we cannot know everything, though with many experiences of life the penny will drop where and when it needs to. For anybody interested in realisation of dynamics, here are some clips from YouTube. “How music works, what happens to your brain when you sing”: “How singing together
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Why there is No Way Back for Religion in the West explains a little bit about how religion and it’s practices are handed from generation to generation, that is how it works. Abusive groups such as these and the rest attempted to do the same by creating a specific wave of children, allowed to be bred through intercourse because they will be immediate adherents and carry on the groups stric
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