Grooming others, it’s like a propping up of their version of reality, gathering scaffold to hold a rickety structure. In day to day terms that structure would mean - a shitty sense of self. Noting though, I am not in the frame of mind that all people with a shitty sense of self are groomers. Some deal with it in a different way.
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Hate to be all Freudy about this, but a literal added aspect of why people go to Mooji is down to their ‘ideal father” projection. I witness this with them, and also for the mother with followers to Amma. Consider it, spending many years unable to connect to either parent, not able to talk to them freely, openly, not accepted as you are, needing all of those things from a parent for many ye
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Here’s an interesting related Reddit:
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QuoteHow then does the brain differentiate the real from the imagined? The way the brain processes information is fundamentally different when we perceive information from our senses compared to what is self-generated within the brain. What the brain receives from our senses is known as ‘afferent information’ and simply means, information travelling towards the brain. The brain can self-generate
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Interesting information about anonymity online, with a word of caution.. if you do not already know and are working on strengthening your own sense of personal boundaries, take mindful precaution before reading:
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QuoteGenerally speaking, QAnon spread because social media algorithms allowed it to, feeding the theory to susceptible users. @wphillips49 has an amazing story on this This tweet is interesting, I do not doubt at all that algorithms helped, and that in itself is questionable, however the most helpful to the cause thing I observed was literally the people who shared the materials, they have en
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I understand that you might see that I don’t get where you’re coming from, it’s just that for me any time of realising holds the same weight. People come across the receipts or enough contradictory info needed, and realise.. people can get through some things themselves :-). Here’s Trump Here’s NIN ARG Wikipedia page ) Here’s info on Radiohead’s Byzantine Ziggurat waste ARG
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My thoughts are that people come out of ARG’s all of the time, it is an often publicly used PR tool.. unfortunately preys on the natural human propensity toward fanaticism. As with anything, the only person who can click ‘oh it was just bull shit’ is the person realising themselves via whatever avenue provides it, and whenever that happens. It couldn’t be forced. Force, that would be the probl
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QuoteMy Question to You: How do we help Q followers once they break free and/or the reality of the Q cult is unmasked? Advise them to educate themselves on the historical role of public relations in society. They will likely already be avid you tube researchers, they have been trained into it. Use this existing element. If they do decide to search (it is always possible that they won’t
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Hi Resilient, Thank you for sharing these interesting bits of info, all things I can learn from. I had a little laugh with the Mercury retrograde comment you made as that is relatable. Musicians, particularly younger musicians will often put new work out based on the assumption that it will be more fruitful in gains if released at specific moon cycle times. They tend to release less when
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Score ! Pun intended :D Next stop are Instagram, and any domain hosts inc pre available ones upon sign up via tumblr, blogger, etc. If he truly believes in what he says, I wish this man health, and a settled mind free from the stressors of the subject matter he puts out some day. Conspiracy theory is damaging to the general public, and most importantly, upcoming generations of young
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An interesting article.. Link QuoteHave people actually conducted studies on meditation addiction? U.S.-based researchers conducted a qualitative research study in 2017 that determined 7 impacts of excessive meditation. Researchers concluded that if you meditate excessively, it can impact your: Cognitive thinking Sensory stimuli Emotions Body Awareness Motivation Sense of self Social in
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zizlz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- I once asked a psychologist what she thought about > meditating with children and she recommended > against it, saying it may not be healthy to halt > their inner processes. Good to know :-) > > Regarding the rest of what you wrote, it doesn't > match my own experience nor the scientific >
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corboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Vox News > > Are We Morally Obligated to Meditate? > > > > Friends, we need to regard meditation as we do any > medication that is powerful enough to have an > effective greater than can be accounted for by > placebo effect, w results replicated via double > blind testing by di
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Hi Zizls, I can elaborate, in the quote here you mention QuoteThe cases I see meditation having negative effects usually involve meditating for the wrong reasons: the belief that "there's something wrong with me, and I have to un-wrong myself by meditating." QuoteA more healthy attitude IMO is to meditate because you love connecting with the stillness that underlies all exp
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Good, because strong will is needed more than ever in today’s world - heh, to add, perhaps why narcissism is on the rise. .. and it’s true for me, it is that small engagement, the small experience and a return to daily life as usual, no better no worse, but the experience, because without the return to regularity there is the mess involved. That’s where things too have gone wrong. The myst
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Hi Zizls, No, I’m not interested in writing a book about it. Re the teacher point you made, I spent six years with a decent one who is now no longer available, and my option after that is no longer trustworthy, so I figured I’d bump into another along the way purely because in my own research terms, I’d need to emulate the previous setting framework in order to check in on differences. T
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Decided this morning, I’m interested in taking myself around the merry go round once again, it will be an interesting way to note any differences in the basics of the journey.. and to see if it lands me in the same psychological and physical place again, and at what points in connection to previously. I spent a long time getting myself better, so it’s a big risk but for my own research, one
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Plenty of hits in this, but no discussion? Manipulation revolving around moon cycles remains in a fair few spiritual circles, and some of the arts... and not to forget, people who have a strong need to control. It is an extremely old belief in witchcraft, that still does the rounds today.
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I have recently started to read this affirming book, I say affirming because even just a short way in, it already shares some of the observations that I have made in my own research. Despite a few little things that I have to personally work around, there is a wealth of information inside that will help untwist the twisted worlds that each of us has been exposed to.. and likely internalised.
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I am sorry to hear about the man that you were acquainted with who has ended his life, it is very sad to hear about, I am sure that you are right that he is not the only one by far. Has anyone set up a website or something similar that people may be able to find using google if they look for it? A social media account or two might also help others connect with the site and share information.
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QuoteKaia Ra never goes into any detail at all about how she escaped these supposed trafficking and military programs. No details. I've read many memoirs of real cult survivors who have escaped, she has nothing in common with those. Actual survivors have specifics. She also is not providing any type of encouragement or road map for other people who may have to flee abusive situations. Y
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‘Her use of "White Buffalo Woman" is appalling, especially since this is all for profit.’ As far as I’m aware, White buffalo woman did not appear in the Saint Germain / I am teachings / Discourses books, however, in connection.. white buffalo woman did appear in Doreen Virtue’s ‘Ascended Masters’ oracle cards set. Goddess ‘Quan Yin’ featured in them too.
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> I don’t care how uncomfortable it makes people anymore. Unfortunately though some subjects are very uncomfortable for others, and this is correct because it is a protective measure. Not everyone is built for hearing some information. I’m all for talking, and silencing people isn’t an answer however there are traumatising topics.. for those too who might have gone through similar
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liminal Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I knew several sannyasins and was briefly one > myself. > > Sheela harmed so many people. > She isn't funny > or charming. She is an aging sociopath still > trying to play games. Since Sheela bought into two care homes, it does seem that Sheela is someone who views people as simply a sto
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“My rule of thumb is that if anything is powerful enough to have beneficial effects, it is powerful enough to produce unwanted side effects.” I like this, it’s a good rule of thumb, I’m taking note. People get hurt and still get hurt. I got hurt.. and it hurts that others got hurt.. and it is still a free for all. I’ll be observing for the points in which societies current general messa
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This is a great thread, I’m glad to see it, there is always another side to every coin as the saying goes. Much like cigarettes, I think meditation / mindfulness practices etc will go the same way. Everyone is told to believe that it is a great thing, really cool and then one day it will be a bad thing, with its health hazard labelling. I have my own saying about it too, that if you ‘me
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Yes that would be a benefit wouldn’t it, I had not initially realised Rajneesh / Osho was a master hypnotiser too. For me Sheela and Osho are a great of example of when two manipulative persona collide. It does not endure due to the power struggle. Sheela herself, controlling and a very dismissive woman, she really doesn’t care, and herself? She is the ‘winner’ of a game where every body e
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Link “To call it a cult is degrading” - I wouldn’t say degrading, I’d say putting it in its realistic place despite delusions. Sheela Birnstiel aka Ma Anand Sheela is experiencing the popularity treatment after her appearance in Wild Wild Country (netflix documentary series). She was responsible, among other things, for the poisoning of other humans in her own local to the cult biote
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liminal Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't know if she started this purely as a money making venture, if she was exposed to unethical "recovered memory" practices, or if she is struggling with mental illness. > Absolutely. > I imagine eventually she is working with wealthy people. Yes, Burning Man a great place to collect
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