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8 months ago
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Hi George, It is so good to read your post and see that you are out of it all, I can relate to what you say so much. Cannot believe that I used to sit and give these people time, space in my head, and money.. but I did. When you said QuoteHITLERS WAS on of them..he is a good paradigm ..He wasn t for good wasn t he? He was talking for a new earth TOO, A NEW WORLD MADE IN HIS OWN CRITERIA PER
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8 months ago
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I enjoyed reading this recent thesis in which the writer shares valuable insight (regarding its title) into yoga, as well as meditation and other mindfulness practices, maybe others here will enjoy it too; Experiences of Shame, Exclusion, & Appropriation in Mindfulness-based Wellness Culture Charlotte Grace Starling Portland State University Apologies if it has already been poste
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QuoteOften the people doing the appropriating belong to a privileged group, while the people they take from belong to an oppressed or marginalized group. This is an excellent article found online regarding the subject of Cultural Appropriation. https://www.healthline.com/health/cultural-appreciation It will not apply to everybody involved in this threads group mentions, if it does then
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
8 months ago
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Meditation is definitely interesting, but it can also have its adverse affects as with anything. It also pays to recognise that meditation is not originally a part of everyone’s various cultures.. for some, meditation just isn’t something that they want or need to do. For many today, meditation is simply a business - a paid for service to support someone’s financial / material needs. Pe
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8 months ago
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.. note, as a gesture of goodwill which I hope will help with feeling better, since you stumbled across my posts I’d like to add my sincerest apology for any offence caused to you personally. It doesn’t include any other “beings” or people, just you Dandelion. Hopefully things can feel a bit lighter for you sooner :-)
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8 months ago
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Hello Dandelion, I hope that you are doing well. The post you made suggests “we”, are you one person or a group? It does not appear as a typographical error as there are a few references to this so would like to clear that up. It would probably help if I clearly outline to you again that when I post here, I am posting to those who are no longer interested in (insert whichever practice i
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8 months ago
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This information is copied completely from a page on Rational Wiki, found via the link at the end. “Some thoughts from an ex devotee to add to this page” Hi everyone, I'm not sure this is the right way for me to go about things but here goes: I noticed that the page for International Society for Krishna Consciousness is closed - or at least, I can't edit the main (first) body of
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8 months ago
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QuoteEnlightenment is the purpose of human existence and the highest stage of the development of consciousness Hi Dandelion, Not everyone has the same beliefs. If you choose a belief, that is fine.. although it is not for everyone. My post offers an undoing for those who are wanting to affect a change in their own lives, and offer an alternative view - it is not intended a general anno
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If it wasn’t for meat eating, none of us would be standing here today.. pun absolutely intended :D QuoteHigh meat intake correlates with moderate fertility, high intelligence, good health, and longevity with consequent population stability, whereas low meat/high cereal intake (short of starvation) correlates with high fertility, disease, and population booms and busts. Too high a meat intake a
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8 months ago
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OMG - Oh My God is a film currently available to watch online in various places, there is a full synopsis written about it on Wikipedia to check if the film is right for you to watch. There is also a warning before the film in some cases that states it is a work of fiction, and that no offence is meant toward any particular religious sects etc. ! I think it is a good film with a nice mes
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8 months ago
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- in addition to the post on superiority complex above, it is worth noting that in part, it is this complex that allows some people both the gusto, and misplaced normality, that they can freely take something from others that simply does not belong to them.
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8 months ago
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Most cults offer a space that provides a place to feel superior over others, Krishna Consciousness provides such a space most obviously by separating meat eaters as “karmies”, this is just one example. One is superior, the other is inferior - yes there is another, please discount any notion of oneness in this explanation. Spotting superiority complex is easy when reading a little bit about
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8 months ago
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QuoteEven though I decided to enter the hole, I still don’t get how it all happened. .. and I agree, we cannot know everything, though with many experiences of life the penny will drop where and when it needs to. For anybody interested in realisation of dynamics, here are some clips from YouTube. “How music works, what happens to your brain when you sing”: “How singing together
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8 months ago
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Why there is No Way Back for Religion in the West explains a little bit about how religion and it’s practices are handed from generation to generation, that is how it works. Abusive groups such as these and the rest attempted to do the same by creating a specific wave of children, allowed to be bred through intercourse because they will be immediate adherents and carry on the groups stric
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8 months ago
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QuoteI believe that as an ex student I may have a better understanding. This is true, but it is for you. I have read about the mythology of Krishna, but I don’t look too much into it. What people believe is entirely free and up to the person it is no business of mine. The system presented by the groups is man made, apparently given by divine intervention, it is understood that people we
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8 months ago
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QuoteCorboy: None of the above has anything to do with the mystical forces that drove facet to Krishna Consciousness. This facet person is completely off-topic (with respect to of the topic of this thread) and is contributing nothing to the discussion except (as facet puts it) "comedy response". Can't you do something about this troll? This is ok, though not all of my responses
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8 months ago
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Bump: any info on this one would be greatly appreciated. It is an absurdity to ask on vaccination in many senses, however it would be equally if not more absurd to assume that it would not happen at all... there is a chance for everything.
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8 months ago
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Can you share Krishna? Krishna alone has been around well before the man made conceptions of Hare Krisna, Krsna Consciousness, ISKON groups, which are actually very far from the day of Krsna, before Christ. Krishna is shared across Buddhism, Jainism, and was even a source of focus for well known occultist, Aleister Crowley. QuoteKrishna was canonised by Aleister Crowley and is recognised
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FARRELL v. WOODHAM, (M.D.Fla. 2002) (The same Carl Woodham AKA Kalakantha Das speaking on misogyny in the 2019 UK Guardian article above).
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This thread is intended for those who wish to bolster the fact that they have left the mentioned communities and their offshoots. It can also be used by those seeking to educate themselves on the abuse that happened and is potentially still happening right up until today.. whichever date it may now be for you, the reader. Anybody can feel free to share relevant materials here, though be sure t
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Extra note : For those who might be intolerant to sexuality based on wether it serves the religion or not, the mentioned documentary “An Honest Liar” features gay people. Whilst it has been tolerated, I understand the overall stance on this type of relationship within Krisna Consciousness and its offshoots is: Quote"In other words, the homosexual appetite of a man for another man is
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Zizl and The Whirlwhind, Much appreciated, wishing you both very best in your endeavours. There is no chance that toleration support for abuse, or an abusive group will come from me. Those adults no matter what religion involved in that do not act when they are told of abuse, are partaking in the continuation of it. There are many accounts of those at the top who did not act. To conti
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There is no clearer public example of Stockholm Syndrome contributing to someone’s behavioural choices than Seela. Not to excuse her from responsibility for her behaviours, just to point out an important contributive factor in it. Anyone interested in researching the topic can find a good demonstrative example here well documented in the Wild Wild Country series.
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QuoteIt is classed as loyalty but the real reason is that most often because the dog has been fed in the past and has learned to prioritise this need being met despite all odds - this preference has been formed in the brain as a memory via neural pathway. To correct myself: It is classed as loyalty but the real reason is that most often because the dog has been fed in the past and has lear
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The Whirlwind Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Then why are you here? Just to argue and preach > atheism? There’s no real need for me to explain my existence I am afraid.. though it has probably already been made clear throughout my postings. I appreciate that it is hard to deal with the cognitive dissonance in mixing with those who do not still ad
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Does anybody know the standpoint on dealing with covid there is at the moment? if the current ashram grouping have, or will be taking part in a covid vaccination or is there another belief attached to dealing with it? Does anyone know what is the situation with vaccination generally in Costa Rica?
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8 months ago
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Correct I do not make any of these things clear, it is my preference not to share important personal information with strangers. Stranger danger !!! Heheee.
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QuoteAll I am trying to really say, facet, is that I am not willing to throw the baby away with the bathwater. It's like I got hurt in an abusive church, but I still consider myself a Christian. I understand, and you know best always. You are the best judge of where you are and you can indeed make the judgement of others, including me ! Although I (or others) may not tend to agree w
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Yes you state it, but what you then go on to state does not match up. What is said and what is done (at least coming across) is opposite, so do you see how it does not work? Making excuses for those who provided a stage for abuse affecting many living beings is super hurtful to those who have experienced it. I get that not everybody would like to acknowledge it, it is not easy, however
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Ok. There is a fair difference in copy and pasting a lot of the scriptures in bold, and just simply sharing your own experience as yourself. You can do this as others and myself have :-) even though it’s not all pro krsna. QuoteIt's implied in the very name of the thread topic that people who are participating here, are interested in Krishna Consciousness. So I am not off-topic at a
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