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11 months ago
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Here’s the official “sample letter” and guidance given on jw.org “Use your own return address. If you feel that it would be unwise to give your own address, you may use the Kingdom Hall address if the elders give you permission to do so. However, you should NEVER use the address of the branch office as your return address. Use the person’s name if you know it. This will avoid giving the
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 months ago
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Here is another example: QuoteWitnessing Is Nonsense Many years ago, I read an article by Bible scholar Robert M Price about this idea that all Christians should be out witnessing to the rest of us. He argued that the books that make up the Bible were meant for the priest class. So when the Bible talks about witnessing, it means the priests, not the ordinary followers. I think it is horrible
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 months ago
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Here’s another example: Man, in his late 50’s, split from his wife and estranged from her and their two children. Presents as friendly though has an exceptionally aggressive undertone, inability to accept and therefore process anger. Is now running a “spiritual” workshop where he presents many YouTube conspiracy theories to attendees and urges them to repeat the spiritual workshop as it is a f
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 months ago
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You describe the vast majority of people who are into these things. The majority have a desperate need for control, and are high manipulators, it is just that it is often not realised until we’re in trouble. Remember, it’s not magic, it’s just nature. They behave badly to create the circumstances and call it magical power, power over others, but it is false, abuse is not power. It’s just ab
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 months ago
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QuoteCould this carry risks of boundary puncture and identity disruption - and make a person vulnerable to grooming by a predator in guru robes? Big resounding Yes ! It may not be well proven in researched yet but will share from my own personal research observations, is that the internalisation is directly related to the neuropathology of the human brain.. if one lets ones self go enough
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 months ago
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Amoo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Re-visiting its own statement on Sat Yoga and > Shunyamurty. > > I want to revisit my statement written in this > forum about Sat yoga and Shunyamurty around April > of 2020. It was right after I returned from the > retreat at Sat.  I was facing the last batch of > egoes and one of those egoes
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 months ago
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QuoteAnd they are apparently going to people in databases because I can’t imagine how else this letter would have found its way to our business address. https://franklycurious.com/wp/2020/09/04/jw-letter/ Jehovah’s Witnesses keep their own database (apparently called “territorial” maps) of surrounding area addresses, contacting the most local Kingdom Halls is the only current way of opting
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 months ago
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Jehovah’s Witnesses are a cult that knows no boundaries, and during the covid pandemic they know how to strike the public during a time of extreme vulnerability and distress for many, this time through the writing and sending of unsolicited letters. A few random found links where people discuss letters received: Some people see letters received as the act of positive kindness that J
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
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Spare a thought for Sat Yogi’s at the moment who may be preparing (aka crapping their organic cotton pants) for the eventuality of one of Roberts long held “predictions”, where a well known, current world leader irresponsibly wages war, nuking and eventually destroying the the Earth, leaving only those connected “on the same level of consciousness” Sat Yogis behind to rebuild the world as a peace
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
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It certainly is concerning for Jeff, from my own small experiences, it sounds like Jeff is dissociating (from reality) in order to keep the false stuff going. It’s kind of a classic thing. Amnesia teams with it for those reasons. The spiritual ‘answer’ to this problem is usually along the lines of : the person is ascending or has traversed a sphere or two, raising their “vibration”, timeless,
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
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Many social media comments by those listening to the Tom Cruise audio clip pointed out how the language and manipulative style of Tom’s comments equally mimic those of Scientology takeover don, David Miscavige. For those unfamiliar with Miscavige’s style, a view of Louis Theroux “ My Scientology Movie” (2015, made 5 years ago) documents a couple of spots which do tie in the mimicry in language
Forum: Celebrities associated with "cult-like" groups
1 year ago
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It’s true, a blessing is indeed a wonderful thing but the source of it (at the time) was a matter of drastic confusion for me.. which I can laugh about now. I recall being sat in that room completely confused as to why people would be so enamoured by the blessing as I had learned of Amma literally in the two weeks just before, a few days later I then spend around four days solid learning of some
Forum: Abusive and Controlling Relationships
1 year ago
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It is often like that ! obvious that the behaviour has come from elsewhere, so it must be the case. I too hope that “Jeff” successfully comes out of this one day. He might be at some sort of Shamanism point at the moment, which these days could be coming from anyone or anywhere .
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
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QuoteQAnon is not an ARG. It’s a dangerous conspiracy theory, and there are lots of ways of understanding conspiracy theories without ARGs. But QAnon pushes the same buttons that ARGs do, whether by intention or by coincidence. In both cases, “do your research” leads curious onlookers to a cornucopia of brain-tingling information. Taken from an article written by Adrian Hon, who shares his in
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
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Here’s an update on UK’s Guardian newspaper website. Quote“I’m on the phone with every fucking studio at night, insurance companies, producers, and they’re looking at us and using us to make their movies. We are creating thousands of jobs you motherfuckers … Movies are going because of us. If we shut down it’s going to cost people fucking jobs, their home, their family. That’s what’s happe
Forum: Celebrities associated with "cult-like" groups
1 year ago
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A Tom Cruise rant circulating in social media platform Twitter has got the Scientology label trending. Listen to the audio here: Tom Cruise does not want his set shut down. This is understandable and sadly, many people praise him for his concerns as he repeatedly (self righteously) points out that he is putting money in peoples pockets, food on tables, and education under peoples wings
Forum: Celebrities associated with "cult-like" groups
1 year ago
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Ps.. again apologies to ‘Jeff’ and friends of ‘jeff’ if any offence caused. Sometimes I wonder if there is too much compassion and understanding tilted toward conspiracy in order not to cause upset.. maybe why so many people carry on with them since were enabling so much of it through wishes to remain compassionate. What good does it do when the conspiracy is clearly (spit your tea out eve
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
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“If anything, I was laughing the hardest.” Conspiracy theory is like that isn’t it.. everything seems to be going so smoothly and then boom, "The Queen is head of an illegal international arms dealership". I did get the belly laughs reading back on that one hehe. "Jeff" even sent me some some youtube video eto back up this claim.” Since we know that “Jeff” is actually
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1 year ago
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QuoteQueen of England is the head of an illegal international arms dealership Hahahahahahahahah ha ha, oh someone make another cup of tea because mines just been spat everywhere :D To unwind this one, the royals are generally a healthy public guiding force. Those who wish to avert some of that public attention and trust away from the royals and then potentially over to themselves would lik
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
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The are so many sad stories in the Reddit group, all of which spring from incidence of manipulation. These accounts can never be ignored or sidelined. FYI anyone interested, Edward Bernays, apparent overlord of PR was nephew to Freud.. who assisted Bernays in much of his work. This is probably the most stark (slap you thrice in the face obvious) historical misuse of human psychology that
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
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Every group and gathering such as this one is quite literally the projection of someone’s psyche. nothing less nothing more. Observing is a great place to be :-) Maybe your friend will realise what he or she is doing one day and just come out of it themselves.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
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Thanks Tubby x ... Tubbyx Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------ > They get lured in with the "free" catch line that > Melanie Tonia Evans dangles and tumble deeper and > deeper down the pre fabricated rabbit hole. Here is a recent critical review uploaded by an ex NARP subscriber, which includes further interesting insights in the comments sect
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
1 year ago
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How are patrons utilised once in the trainings? This usually answers the question for me, as well as looking at the traditional diagnostic given by Rick Ross. On consideration of the explanation they give for what they are offering, followed by the first glance of the website, my two cents is that it is absolutely a manipulative setting at least. Sex is a powerful force, easy to throw ever
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
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Apologies in advance if the article offends anyone, which I can assure is not intentional. OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder) is an awful affliction, one that I had frequently come across in healing and soft cult communities. The rigid ritual, rules, and beliefs engaged by groups are attractive and I can understand why cult and healing groups feel like a good fit for anyone suffering, as i
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
1 year ago
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I really enjoyed the article “as one thinks, so shall one feel, and how to change all of that”.. QuoteMy mind did not know how to separate fact from installed fictions. It is exactly this missing process that has been misused so broadly over the years, and even more so obviously today with the general public. Quote... and learn how to use my eyes to see, my ears to hear, and my body to
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
1 year ago
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Apologies, my point is.. that by decreasing active pathways, the thing that makes life rich and wonderful (brain) becomes underworked, and therefore, defunct.
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
1 year ago
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QuoteIt's not going to work Totally, it requires being witnessed, acknowledged.. and the participation. Resilience, the water thing at meditations and similar gatherings, it’s a trend. I’ve witnessed a few times the same thing, the most memorable worst for me was someone who arrived with a big tankard thing from an Amma hugging gathering (those gatherings are pretty big) they had c
Forum: Abusive and Controlling Relationships
1 year ago
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Hi Resilient, Thank you :-) and thank you so much for sharing your insights, which I enjoyed reading. I love to hear of different perspectives. By “too far” I meant it from my own understanding and experience terms.. which I will try to explain in simple, non professional terms. Looking at the average brain with capability for neuroplasticity, when meditating it is basically the reductio
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
1 year ago
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In many cults and groups, the us and them division between the group any other outside human is further defined by putting out that the person does not agree with the group, does not join, or is simply dealing with their own daily life challenges as one usually would, is somebody who needs to receive ‘healing’. Whatever energy, thought, or modality used is then utilised to send a healing to th
Forum: Abusive and Controlling Relationships
1 year ago
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Grooming others, it’s like a propping up of their version of reality, gathering scaffold to hold a rickety structure. In day to day terms that structure would mean - a shitty sense of self. Noting though, I am not in the frame of mind that all people with a shitty sense of self are groomers. Some deal with it in a different way.
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