:lol: :lol: :lol: tks for the laughs!
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Is an LGAT, essentially The Miracle of Love Intensive, functioning under a new name - trying to avoid the heat generated by this website. For explanation of this group's methods and a survey of their history: Application and Liability Waiver for MOL's Intensive (reasonable to assume the Awareness Seminar appl. will be comparable) Support for those leaving Miracle o
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Hello Realitychick, Thank you for sharing so clearly, about your experience in a youth forum and with LE parents. Different cults have different methods for the youth. Some more outwardly abusive, some inwardly so. The following thread discusses about being born or raised in a cult
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"Brainwashing, The Science of Thought Control" by Kathleen Taylor This author is a research scientist, physiology dept., at Oxford University. Taylor blends the fields of social psychology and neuroscience to explain how social/environmental influences can alter brain chemistry and then brainwash someone. The book is on amazon. Also, recommended by a neuroscientist friend of mi
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Inside email to TM Center Directors Current focus for TM Centers' marketing *** Celebrated Film Director David Lynch at USC on November 3 to Speak on "Consciousness, Creativity, and the Brain" To Launch New Foundation to Help Students Overcome Stress through Meditation Award-winning director David Lynch (Elephant Man, Blue Velvet, Twin Peaks, Mulholland Drive) will
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Quotejocie6Hi Toni, What did people say that helped you during those 1st few months? i.e.: do we just keep reassuring her that everything is going to be OK? do we ask her about her feelings? anything thats best to avoid?....... we are going over to USA next week - for a few weeks of Disneyland, shopping in Beverly Hills, Las Vegas etc..........everyone keeps asking me if I think that will be gr
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My apologies for prior post sounding so gruff. Of course, an author can research something and write wonderfully about it. That is why I've suggested (along w/ others' suggestions) resources to learn about the phenomenon. In reference to my statement about writing about pygmies' society - Others have written about pygmies, without being a pygymie, and quite well. I was mer
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jocie6: Coming out of the cult is more painful than remaining w/the group. The person's entire life paradigm is turned upside down - there are no skills for functioning w/o the group. I've seen many former loved ones become psychotic or schizophrenic from cult-life. sigh. Yes, I agree, most in the medical profession don't know diddley about this. Unfortunately. What m
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Check out : "Brainwashing; The Science of Thought Control" by Kathleen Taylor
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IMHO (raised in a cult, w/ cult family.. bladdity blah... ) Being in a cult.... being brainwashed.... is a unique combination of the most incredible (false) sensation of high, security, group connection and special life calling.. along w/ total fear of leaving this secure group.. squelching inner questionings about the insanity that surrounds you, because you have nowhere else to turn. Everyo
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"The Program" by Gregg Hurwitz a thriller based upon an LGAT "Space Between the Stars" by Deborah Santana of course... you must understand the Bible of all this, as appropriate background "Cults in Our Midst" by Margaret Singer and, of course, check RR's book list.... check on link above "books"
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Quotei_was_one If someone is out there who is also an ex-Scientologist and can affirm basically what I am saying, I would appreciate hearing from you. Hello I-was-one: After leaving a long time ago, and now coming forth, it is nice to have your experiences validated by other former-members. This board is here for that. Various cults function more-or-less the same, with their own variations
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Hi N: The "smoke damage" comes when any normal-type relationships issues are twisted against you, and your opinion is invalidated by the cult script. You're not to that part of the relationship yet. Hopefully, you'll miss it. Good luck! :D
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Hi Nutty, You are wise to carefully investigate all this. Mistakes that I'd made: 1) I did not recognize, until too late, how much of his statements were internalized cult-script. 2) I made connections for him. (wrong!) 3) As I'd learned afterwards, the thing to do is slowly ask questions, appear interested and get her to talk w/ you. Then very very gently ask her quest
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Ditto to all that 'midonov' stated. IMHO, if you continue with her, you will end up (temporarily) living up to your chosen name : 'nutty' Sorry to sound pessimistic, my intention is to be caringly realistic. Likewise, recently found an old post-relationship Xmas-love note.. written well over a year after breakup (I'd thought I'd shredded everything), the c
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Beware of personal emails that seem to come from online businesses, such as paypal, EBay and amazon. The emails will say such things as your account needs updating, in their ongoing efforts to keep accounts current. Or they will claim there are have been fraudulent purchases on your account. Do not open the links provided by such emails! These are phoney emails, from others trying to brea
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Sorry about your harrassments. I lived similar harrassments from the Miracle of Love. You can file a sheriff or police report (I did twice) If you file a Cease and Desist order, in my State you should be able to prove that the harrassments come from them. Otherwise, they could then sue you for harrassing them w/ the Cease & Desist (per my attorney's advice). About the ph
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Bonnie, EXCELLENT explanation! That is exactly the thinking that my family raised me with (ugh!). My parents still talk that way.. incessently... teaching classes on 'intention' and bladdidy blah.... AND moving to Sedona in the next month or so. :roll: Birds of a feather flocking together. As you state, it is all useless B.S. So much of the same is taught in many cu
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Per request above: Guru Purnima is the full moon in July, translation is "Full Moon of the Guru" On an especially auspicious year, depending upon how the calendar falls, there would be two full moons in July. There is another name for the rare 2nd full moon of July... that essentially translates into extra-holy-guru's-moon. I believe most Hindu traditions honor Guru Purnim
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QuoteCosmophilospher They make their money off ignorance, hysteria, emotional reasoning and dichotomous thinking. That's why they all make countless MILLIONS of the multitude. They know exactly what they are doing with people's minds... ....... Sex sells, and it also seems ths Stupid Sells. No kidding... Increasingly difficult to have a life-meaningful conversation, away from t
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Like anything, there is the public story: Then there is the private story, known to those of us who were on or near the inside. I know far too many of such stories, as do any of us who were raised, or spent any amount of time, in a cult. Two best selling relationship gurus were once married: John Gray and Barbara DeAngelis. They founded a relationship seminar company together, t
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What a tragic story. Am sorry for the loss of your sister. That is a slow tragic way to die. From your story, it sounds as though your sister had complications with the third stage of labor. The delivery of the 'afterbirth' or placenta is the most physically precarious time for the mother. It must be managed carefully. Also, pushing from above by another, in order to assist the
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Coz, Tks for book rec. I've contacted authors in the past, through writing to them in care of the publisher. Authors who I've contacted this way have usually responded. Why don't you write the book exposing LGATs? You already know enough to do. toni
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A foundation to help youth and young adults who are exiting high demand groups. The group assists with emotional and psychological transition, as well as assists in gaining necessary life survival skills: And an individual success story:
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Out of curiosity: I attended a recent TM introductory meeting. It's been long since I'd left the group. It is now nearly 2 decades since I'd left; four decades since my childhood Initiation. It is incredible that the group still has affected my psyche after so many years, and my parents are still somewhat loco. I was more or less raised in the TM movement. The speakers
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Links also work on my mac with safari. Sent the links to many friends (have you noticed a rash of new hits?) Having also received cult harrassment, I find yours both enjoyable and interesting to follow. Good job! Thank you for sharing.
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And I've been told of three suicides related to the Miracle of Love. Two were teenagers, and one was an adult woman.
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Likewise, I knew of a few suicide attempts - a couple of successful ones - of youth in the TM movement decades ago. Tragic. Concerned Dad, you must be wrenched. Somewhere on the cult news through Rick Ross was a presentation made at a recent ICSA conference by an MD who became a cult awareness activist, following the suicide of his son in Scientology. Michael Langone, director of ICSA,
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QuoteConcerned OzI am much happier now knowing the truth and being free to use my critical thought processes, rather than acting purely through emotion, whether that emotion be good feelings or bad, such repression or guilt. You are free now - rejoice :) AMEN!
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thread "How to Recognize a Manic-Depressive Leader" about psychopaths Cult Leadership 101 -- How to Be a Successful Cult Leader (humor)
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