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1 year ago
zizlz
@Andy.Mo18: ego-phobic is a great way to put it. I do think Tolle has had the awakening experience he described, but he drew the wrong conclusions from it. That awakening experience (sometimes called 'the initial awakening') has to do with a sudden change in brain functioning. The process of habitual thought patterns that involve and maintain the self-concept is suddenly drastically red
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1 year ago
Andy.Mo18
Great, thank you. I'll be sure to check it out.
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1 year ago
Sahara71
Hi Andy.Mo18, I'm sorry to hear about your illness. There is a lot of information about Eckhart Tolle on this forum and the destructive effect his teachings can have on people's lives. Someone who called himself The Anticult was posting here years ago about Tolle and other similar teachers, and it is worthwhile doing a forum search under this name, 'The Anticult' and re
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1 year ago
Andy.Mo18
Does anybody else have any thoughts concerning this guy?
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1 year ago
Andy.Mo18
So I was in psychiatry for a drug induced psychosis when I was 20, and while I was there my mother gave me two of Eckhart Tolle's books, The Power of Now and A New Earth. The way he wrote made it seem like enlightenment was the only way to sanity, and I'd read Bhante Gunaratana's book Mindfulness in Plain English before, in which he proclaimed an enlightened person becomes complete
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1 year ago
PowerofNo
Right so, in terms of recovering a sense of self, a big thing for me was learning to assert my ego. Yes, that's right, ASSERT my EGO - in contravention of the New Age nostrum that ego must be eliminated. In practice, this meant getting back in touch with the things I like and enjoy. No longer feeling guilty about saying, I like this, I want that. It also meant, perhaps most importantly of
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
1 year ago
Tone1997
As mentioned earlier I’m glad you are doing well and will get better man it’s tough and similarly I got into This new age spirituality and meditation due to excess anxiety I have struggled with all my life. It led to me to seek meditation as a tool to help my anxiety go away or calm myself because of these are how they are promoted as they never tell you all the mind bending grueling idiotic phil
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1 year ago
Gaja
Not really.If I was ok, I wouldn't end up, being traumatized by sect. I just remember when mooji with his whole sect were singing/screaming to me "inside the Heart we are never apart"or "we love you, we love you !!!"- as response to my (in their imagination)need to be in relationship with mooji. They thought I want to be as special as Krishnabai, and live with mooji o
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1 year ago
PowerofNo
Tone1997, the first step, really, was finding this place. Having immersed myself in the Eckhart Tolle philosophy for so long those ideas had become unquestionable truths in my mind; the discussions on here were the first thing to give voice to some of my growing doubts, and open me to some fresh perspectives. But the terror of having my sense of reality suddenly torn away without anything obvi
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1 year ago
Gaja
I also had very bad spiritual experiences, but because I trusted wrong person - Guru. He used my trust to abuse me, constantly. I was easy target as I had no other support in life. In the past I was obssessed with mediatation and having no thought. E.T teaches that we should stop our minds and as a goal, to have no thoughts in our minds, but the very thing that try to stop the mind - is mind
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
1 year ago
Leavingmooji
I’d like to suggest this book to all of you who are still struggling with living a life without the Moo spell, it exposes very clearly the new age spiritual bussiness
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Tone1997
Thank you for sharing our story it is a source of hope to those facing similar circumstances to these cult like mind messing messages. These pseudosciences are dangerous and stupid and I’m angry at myself for allowing myself to fall into this trap of a black hole that started with meditation and led me to experience depersonalization and trauma related symptoms thinking it was”ego death” but it w
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1 year ago
PowerofNo
Hi Tone1997. As I said in my post just above, I consider myself close to fully recovered from the Eckhart Tolle mind virus. However, I'm left with the deeper trauma of events that happened much earlier in my life, which I've come to believe contributed in large part to my susceptibility to Tolle. Living with that is an ongoing challenge. But compared to the wreck I was when I started th
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1 year ago
Tone1997
Hey man thanks for sharing your story I went through something similar with meditation and the new age bull crap. I wanted to ask how is your recovery coming along?
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1 year ago
PowerofNo
Hello everyone. For some reason I decided to check back on here for the first time in a couple of years and lo and behold, there's activity on my thread! Thank you to everyone for commenting and sharing your own stories and views. I am pleased to say that I have come a long way from the clutches of Eckhart Tolle and his teachings on the awesome power of lobotomy (teachings that have led a
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
1 year ago
shamrock
Christa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > February 20, 2009 Wanderer77 > Let me tell you something , if I could, in my own > modest experience at being human myself, Tolle is > very unhealed. In other words, the "split": the smooth and knowledgeable public speaker on-stage, and the same old person off-stage. It's a mysterious bu
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1 year ago
shamrock
corboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This provision of support by Tolle's friends who > let him stay with them, and by his father who > supported his explorations when young deserve to > be given credit, for without their support, Tolle > would not have made it. The money from his father must have lasted quite a while, as Eckhart Tol
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1 year ago
facet
> That is most important, because if one is in an > altered state of consciousness that has so total > an impact, one's ability to survive may be > compromised and may never live to pass teachings > on unless others step forward to offer care and > support. Hello all, The quote above is important, definitely, and what also strikes me is that in Eckhart’s chosen
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1 year ago
HisMother
PowerofNO, thank you for writing on this topic. I have currently suffered the loss of my son and am writing a book on the experience. One of my chapters is titled The Death of Right and Wrong. And guess who's work is mentioned? You guessed it. Thought I'd pass along a few paragraphs from this chapter. And I hope you make a full recovery from the brainwashing stupidity of Ekhart Toll
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1 year ago
Ananas
Re: Mooji a cult? Posted by: outtheotherside () Date: July 14, 2019 02:24AM hello all, I've been reading this thread with interest. I never wholeheartedly fell down the moo-hole but I did meet him and go to a retreat in London. There were many red flags for me but still I went along with it, mostly because I was quite vulnerable at the time. His staff were the biggest red flag. T
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1 year ago
Leavingmooji
I was just watching some of Jim Carrey’s interviews from these last years and he seems so brainwashed. Poor guy. He portrays himself as being so enlightened and above everyone else. When you are wealthy and lonely you surely are an easy target to New Age bullshit. I think the only difference between Scientology and these so called gurus (Eckhart Tolle,Mooji) is they still have good press behind t
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
facet
I find Eckhart wholly depressing. Have to add also, if you are of understanding age and have taken a choice to take LSD, then life must be pretty unsatisfactory as it is for that person. He runs a big business, and would have had to have engaged in propelling that with his choices and actions.. he didn’t just magically have everything organised in this way it would have taken the strong wis
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1 year ago
Zato
Hi all, new to this forum! I was researching info about the Avatar cult (which is quite difficult to pinpoint) and came across this website. Amazing place to clear your ideas and keep away from insanity! First of all, you both are very brave and I encourage you to keep looking for answers, without walking into gurus traps. I hope you both are doing fine with tour lives. I am quite surprised a
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1 year ago
allalong
I'd like to edit my original post. I am embarrassed. I was in a place for a moment of wanting to discard anything that reminded me of spirituality. But I know that is not necessary. I'm going to donate the following books by the authors: Eckhart Tolle Wayne Dyer Oprah Deepak Chopra Louise Hay I'm going to keep books by the following: Brene Brown Thich Nhat Hanh
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
1 year ago
allalong
I have a bunch of books I've already donated a while ago--books by Marianne Williamson, Bryon Katie, etc. with thanks to this forum. However, I can't seem to let go of others. I feel like I'm going to be back to where I started when I first got into spiritual type stuff. I'm going to donate the following books by the authors: Eckhart Tolle Wayne Dyer Oprah Mark Nep
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1 year ago
corboy
You are so right about the abuse apologists. Welcome to CEI.
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
1 year ago
sashah
Hello everyone! I apologize if I formatted this different, this is my first time on this forum. I appreciate this thread so very much. Thank you so much "PowerofNo", for sharing such vital information. And everyone else here for their posts. Never have I felt so understood before. Your first two posts resonated so deeply with me, I felt like I was the same person as you. Unfortu
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1 year ago
George x
hello there, i am one of them that let my mind be screwed by that dingy man. it s been almost 2 years from my "fall into the pit" moment. i know your feeling about balancing your "mindblankness" with thinking more. i was doing that as a " counteraction" too ,to tolle's poison. i have been there fella i know. Indeed it has it s place for people recove
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
zizlz
Hi George x, it sounds to me like you suffer from depersonalization. It may be that Tolle's Eckhart material triggered it for you. Depersonalization is a dissociative disorder. I have had depersonalization myself, also combined with generalized anxiety disorder. I didn't really understand what happened to me until I went into therapy. My therapist and I looked at what it was that caused
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