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5 years ago
rrmoderator
Be careful in the future. Personal attacks are against the rules agreed upon by users of this message board.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
mechanizm
Point taken. It triggered an intense negative emotional reaction in me for some reason, that obviously came across in my reply.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
rrmoderator
mechanizm: Please don't attack people personally on this message board. It's a violation of the rules and rude. YOu have no idea what this person's experience is and have no business attempting to lecture them.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
mechanizm
No, Eckhart Tolle did not turn you into a zombie. That's like saying Jesus turned Europeans into genocidal psychopaths in the time of the crusades. Jesus did not cause the crusades or the Spanish Inquisition, people misused the words of the bible to suit their own corrupt agenda. The same words caused others to become more peaceful and loving. Similarly, Eckhart Tolles teachings are there fo
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
livingengine
Eric Allen Bell Goes to the Doctor Alright Mr. Bell just lie back now. Oh, you don’t understand. I don’t want you to analyze me. I want you to diagnose this guy who has been cyberstalking me for 6 years. He’s crazy. It’s all in that packet I gave you. OK, understood. Just lie back and give me a moment to look through this, and then I will tell you what I think. Well, alright . . .
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
Rinpochehelpedme
Hi, I'm a previous student of PY but I have to say I feel very sad that you have had a bad experience as I never did and would like to stand up for him in case other people miss the opportunity to meet him because of this forum. I met Rinpoche, when he went by the name Sifu about 15 years ago. By the sounds of it he has stayed true to his personality, which is kind of like a drill s
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
langlorimer
“You could jump out of a window”, he said. I did. Fortunate to be alive I followed this Yoga Cult Master for years. Others have died but no one believes my story. The police laugh, therapists don’t get it. Friends and family think it’s my defect. Psychic development is what he is famous for. How to acquire the supernatural abilities through studying the mind. It is what seduced me being a psychol
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
6 years ago
light336
Greetings, Since I found some answers on this forum that I was looking for, I would like to share a brief history of mine. To cut short, me and my family were always in the church, but when I was a kid I didn't like going to it and as I grew older I stopped going all together. In my adulthood I was looking for something new and started reading Eckhart Tolle's books and short after I
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
6 years ago
corboy
<<High five>> Wishing you all the best for this winter season, which in so many parts of the world, is celebrated with festivals of light. Here's an example of how personal hopes plus social context affect one's beliefs. Stephen Batchelor tells this about himself back when he was a practicing Tibetan Buddhist and friends with a group of young Westerners who had, li
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
6 years ago
PowerofNo
Thanks westie, that's kind of you to say, I appreciate it. Likewise, I wish you well with your own recovery, whatever form it's taking. I'll look out for your story if and when you choose to publish it on here, as if you've felt able to relate to mine I'm sure I'll be able to relate to yours. And corboy, thanks for your responses. I've been through all the ot
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
6 years ago
corboy
Analysis of a Byron Katie Dialogue Small excerpt QuoteBecause Katie is not doing any trained CBT here (which presents itself as a technique, not a pathway to mystical truth brokered by an awakened being), the impact of the scene as a scene must be considered. Note the benevolent aggression of Katie’s body language. She leans forward, makes intrusive eye contact, smiles in an alpha wa
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
6 years ago
corboy
Someone named Teal Swan has her own following and has garnered many harm reports. Teal Swan recommended Byron Katie Recent article here: Discussion of Teal Swan here:
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
6 years ago
cryst-oh
Why is it funny when people say a book changed their lives? sunshine Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A writer on another board shared this link: > > > > I'm creeped out by the number of EPL fans. It's > weird when women -- especially people who are > middle aged or older, educated and intelligent -- > say that Gil
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
6 years ago
corboy
If Eckhart Tolle's material actually freed us from ego, we'd *lose* interest in "playing the game" and not want to be pick up artists. Quotebout 9,950 results (0.79 seconds) Search Results Eckhart Tolle | Pick Up Artist and PUA Lingo www.pualingo.com/eckhart-tolle/ Aug 3, 2014 - Affiliation: Eckhart Teachings Website: Eckhart Tolle Bio Spiritual leader and mento
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
6 years ago
corboy
Here is a situation that relates to thought stopping, rather than the sort of Trungpa's method as reported by Chandler of noticing and noting individual thoughts, then making them go, with no chance for each thought to form any relationship with the other thoughts and construct a narrative. This person reported trouble after getting involved with Eckhart Tolle material. QuoteWha
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
6 years ago
corboy
Another person 'Brainwashed90' came to CEI reporting they'd had problems after exposure to the Tolle material. Ignore what discussant 'dsm' wrote. dsm turned out to be a Help Troll and was banned by the moderator. * Any time trolls arrive, especially if one or more trolls takes time as dsm did to write detailed replies, this signals that a discussion is takin
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
6 years ago
westie
Thank you for your post, you explained it so clearly. I can relate to everything you stated. My experience is very similar , but was connected to Gestalt therapy ,and Transactional Analysis Therapy. The last four years have been traumatic for me. I have gone to the brink of suicide to, I have lost all my identity and doubt every word that I speak and think . I won't go into the brainwashing
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
7 years ago
corboy
What "powerofno" has written is fascinating. QuoteLovebombing Eckhart Tolle says that only those who are "ready" for his teachings will recognise their truth. This makes the reader think that if they believe the teachings, they must be special. If you are prepared to give your mind away to Tolle, you must be more evolved and more enlightened than the average person. T
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
7 years ago
PowerofNo
Another one I forgot to include. Lovebombing Eckhart Tolle says that only those who are "ready" for his teachings will recognise their truth. This makes the reader think that if they believe the teachings, they must be special. If you are prepared to give your mind away to Tolle, you must be more evolved and more enlightened than the average person. ----------------- By the
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
7 years ago
PowerofNo
I wanted to lay out some of the tricks that I've started to become aware of Mr. Tolle using. Tolle's Tricks Trance Induction and Hypnotic Suggestion In the Power of Now, Eckhart Tolle encourages you to not think about what you are reading, but instead to (paraphrasing) "feel the truth" of it. If your mind raises any doubts or concerns, he says that you should cast the
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
7 years ago
PowerofNo
Hello everybody. This is my first post here. I wanted to share my experience with the so-called 'teachings' of Eckhart Tolle. I know ET has been discussed on some other threads on here, but those discussions seem to have died down which is why I'm doing this as a new topic. I apologise if that's not the protocol. This is going to be quite a long, rambly personal account. Ag
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
7 years ago
eileenhat
Re" For what I'm hoping for is one of them to please give me an advice on what religion/movement was one of the origins of the idea of lowering the ego." (darlof) I don't know who came up with the idea that your feelings are an issue (no one is quite clear about the elements of an Ego....and yes, I've studied the Eckhart book, power of now), and that they can be resolv
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
7 years ago
corboy
Dear Darlof: One way to assess a teacher's character is to observe how he or she deals with source material. If someone claims to be sole custodian of something for which no one can be sole custodian -- hmmm. One item to be aware of is that some are out there who claim that a "serious seeker" gives up all claim to basic human rights. That one isnt a serious seeker unless
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
7 years ago
darlof
Corboy, thank you for your kindness and all your advice. I will definitely use my gut feeling and my sound judgement when I face religious movements that are new to me. About the religious groups and meetings, I think they're a bad idea in general. At least for me I'm certain that the spiritual realisation is too personal and unique to be the same for even two people. I prefer to be
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
7 years ago
corboy
Dear darlof, I am no authority on anything. I can offer advice I wish I'd heeded earlier on: * Do what you can to run background checks on anyone you consider getting involved with. If the teacher has published books, look at *all* of the books. Bookfinder dot Com is a potential research tool. You can see if you can get the books for free by inter library loan. Why do this?
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
7 years ago
darlof
Yes, corboy you're right. I need help from someone to show me a road for me to take on, which can lead me where I want to go with my spiritual exploration. From what I learnt in the last month, reading Cult Education Institute forum is that you guys deserve great admiration for helping people get out of those harmful groups and movements, showing them a clearer and more sober view on what
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
7 years ago
corboy
Dear darlof, it sounds as though you are looking for material to guide you in your spiritual explorations. Cult Education Institute is a resource for assisting people to understand what distinguishes harmful teachers and groups from those less likely to be or become harmful. As an evidence based social science and education resource, CEI cannot offer advice on "diminishing of th
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
7 years ago
darlof
Hi all :) TLDR: What more to read about ego diminishing? I found this forum after googling for opinions on Eckhart Tolle. I'm really glad of learning different views from this topic: forum.culteducation.com/read.php?6,54633,page=1 After finishing that topic, I read this one as well: forum.culteducation.com/read.php?12,7166,page=1 And I still haven't found an answer to what I
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
7 years ago
SeePony
Dialogue works equally well, if not better for manipulation, but the technique employed is certainly different. And of course, the feedback is an essential manipulation tool.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
ultraspring
Good analogy, Corboy, the daisy. She certainly does cast herself in the best possible light. But all of "the work" is still based on your being honest with yourself--continually (not easy). Figuring out what the truth of your situation is, wanting to make the right decisions,knowing what those are. There are so many personal variables. So it seems like she's made a win-win s
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
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