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13 years ago
Hippo
I have a question about Byron Katie. Does she still do her "homeless" exercise? I wondered if she had abandoned that practice after James Ray had a lady commit suicide at a similar activity.
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13 years ago
rrmoderator
Calm: You are certainly free to "believe" whatever you wish. But this is a subjective experience based upon your feelings. It cannot be proven objectively, like Tolle's claims.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
Calm
Hi everyone I posted here sometime ago (last year) and I have just come to accept my new state of being. I am not saying Eckhart Tolle is good or bad and in fact I only heard of him since I went through a similar (ego death) like he claims he did. I do believe Enlightenment is very real and one can be without thought at all and function normally and I am proof of this. I never followed any teache
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
Its not known if this is actually the person stated, or someone else. But for the person stated, they are another self-proclaimed "NLP expert" in persuasion. Its another in a long line of Tony Robbins clones. The front page of their website is literally a paste/copy of the Tony Robbins material, using Questions with presuppositions to pace and lead those who are reading it. So in
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
Verdad71
Hello, First of all I apologize if my redaction looks weird or has grammar or syntax errors. English is not my birth language, and I don't consider myself english-speaking. At least not at the level that this kind of forums could require. I've been reading through almost a hundred of posts in a dozen of topics during last two weeks. Particularly about Tolle (and mostly about BK).
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
Tiredofthis
Hello all. I was wondering if ther's a cure for "Nowism", that is where alll you feel is RIGHT NOW, the present moment, like your mind and body aren't in time, like you're not really yourself, this constant "no-self" state. It has happened to me as a result of reading "The power of Now" by eckhart tolle and i was wondering if there's a way to go b
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
walter1963
Anticult wrote: "Where did these LGAT Gurus get the idea to use unpaid "Staff"? From groups like Scientology." And NLP, from it's inception NLP used "helpers", "assistant coaches", "guardian angels", who were NLP students who paid full seminar price to "help" newbies. At $2k-$5k a seminar plus room and board, it is a very e
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
darkadaptedeyes
oh, something else. The "advice columnist" in the local free urban paper has regularly dispensed advice and expressed a viewpoint that caused me to mutter "what in the world??". It's absolute nonsense and she regularly blames victims of accidents for their own misfortune. I've noticed that she has often quoted practitioners of "woo" and espoused views that
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
darkadaptedeyes
It just confounds the mind how she, among others, can be conducting individual and group "therapy" when she has no education, no training, no license or regulation. Why are these operations not shut down by authorities in a New York minute?? This woman is especially disgusting, and her remarks about child rape and the way she blames victims of rape, molestation, assault, (because they n
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
darkadaptedeyes
has anyone reported BK to the Anti-Defamation League or other similar organizations for her Holocaust apologism? Seems like a good idea....
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
WineGuy
Just thought I would throw out that Katie has a new "turnaround event" in Ojai for 28 days that runs... $20,000. The median income for Americans in 2009 was $32,000, or about $20,000 per year after all income taxes and FICA. I think her goal is to "turn around" your annual paycheck to her checking account.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
Interesting perspective from the news. Compartmentalizing and hyperfocusing as a way to bypass emotional pain or panic and concentrate on a task can be highly effective for very highly trained people like astronauts. But as a psychologist warns--such compartmentalization can carry a risk of emotional rebound later on. "On Monday, Kelly -- a veteran of 39 combat missions during Dese
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
Note: One can also try this same experiment by getting a picture of BK in her current portrait on the home page of The Work. WARNING-dont look for very long! time, she's using her right hand, unlike left hand in the Loving What Is book jacket portrait. This picture shows her wearing light colored outfit and all fingers on her hand are all tightly curled. Go to your bathroom m
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
And friends, go to your bathroom mirror and try to replicate the hand position (and the finger positions) and head tilt and smile used by your guru. Once again, give it a try by using the mirror to imitate the precise way that BK is holding her hand and wrist and curling her fingers. How long can you hold that position? Then, flip the lid back and stare into your toilet. If you need
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
By the way, the next time some fucking New Age Guru asks you.... ARE YOU READY TO BE AWAKENED?? A good answer might be...NO I AIN'T. - I am not ready to awakened to get upsold 167 products from your website for the next 19 years. - I am not ready to get spoonfed your obvious persuasion tactics. Then one might accidentally trip and dump their water bottle on the sleazy Guru who is tr
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
Long ago, someone counted all the Eckhart Tolle products, and there were dozens of them. Now there are more than that, there look to be hundreds. And ET also is selling "retreats" which are meant to lure people to locations for that, where the upselling continues. ET is selling almost as many things as Walmart, and more than McDonalds! McDonalds only sells a few dozen things, Eckha
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
There are other threads going into great detail about the SCAMOLAS being run by Eckhart Tolle. The guys a salesman. and its false about the ET events. He has events, but not as many live events as BK, because obviously ET doesn't like "people" in the personal sense. He wants to set up a detached system, where you buy his DVD's and watch ET-TV as a group, so those are o
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
PS Anything that has the above mentioned picture of BK will be fine. Copies of Loving What Is can now be found second hand. Got my copy for fifty cents from a garage sale. Thrift stores are good hunting grounds.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
Things to Do--Project Equipment Acess to a mirror in a well lit room. (Wall mounted mirror is best. Bathroom mirror will do just fine) One copy of Loving What Is by Byron Katie with Stephen Mitchell (You will be working from the portrait on the book jacket showing BK wearing a black top, wearing pearl earrings, gazing outwards, hand up and fingers curled under) Optional: A pair
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
If you're happy with your guru, this website wont matter. This site is skeptical and exists to provide a space for persons who are not devotees and and want to study gurus as just one more marketing phenonmena among many.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
WineGuy
Corboy, I must disagree that this websites purpose is to... "provide a distraction free space so that gurus can be examined not as something special, but as products of sales and marketing--making them no different from Macdonald's Happy Meals." By that statement you ... again... throw any and all gurus into the meat grinder. Again, this place can do whatever it wants, and like
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
Finally (yawn)....if anyone responds by saying 'You seem to be putting a lot of energy into this' 'You seem upset' 'You seem to be bothered..' All these are standard rhetorical evasions, that everyone seems to learn in the New Age cultic mileu.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
Plus, Andrew Cohen, whom you appear to disapprove of, has interviewed Eckhart Tolle more than once, a willingness to associate with someone whose trouble record is very well documented. In Issue 18 of What Enlightenment? Magazine Fall/Winter 2000, magazine (currently has the title Enlightenext), page 46, there is a dialogue between Andrew Cohen and Eckhart Tolle entitled Ripples on the Surf
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
QuotePeople here are obviously free to make up their mind, but I sense there is no one who is not above suspicion and everyone is thrown in the same garbage can. Friend, this message board is not for the purposes of proslytizing. QuoteAndrew Cohen.... when your own mother writes a book blasting you, you know you are messed up. This guy has a huge ego, completely misses the point, and oft
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
QuoteAndrew Cohen.... when your own mother writes a book blasting you, you know you are messed up. This guy has a huge ego, completely misses the point, and often berates those who question him. Do be aware that Eckhart Tolle has been interviewed quite often with or by Andrew Cohen, indicating a willingness to associate with someone whose trouble record is very well documented. Quote
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
WineGuy
I think this is a very useful website. Whenever I hear of some new spiritual group one of my friends mentions I have done quick search here to see what is up with them. I think I have used this site to get ammo against IMPACT, Abraham-Hicks and The Secret. I never really need such info for myself as I am able to get a sense pretty quick who is legit, but often my friends will not just take my wo
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
On The Uses of Disgust BK doenst just use cockroaches for her story. Apparently she uses other stuff too. "At September 28, 2010 , (name omitted), M.D. said... What an awesome story. (Not the part about Decibel being scared or doused with Coca Cola, I mean. The part about discovering our wrong assumptions.) I agree with Rose, it IS very human of us to mentally wander into Defending
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
The point of a training analysis for apprentice therapists is to assist the student therapist to face his or her inner landscape directly--the rawness of it all, the stuff one wants to get away from, the raw feelings of shame, weakness, emptiness, insatiable cravings, fears of exploding/imploding, traumas one has split off. Someone who tries to shove into the healing field without first having
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
The persons who described the early Bandler and Grinder seminars wrote: "You cannot be around Bandler and Grinder long before the king's words, "There is no truth beyond magic." " Using other human beings as objects has a deeply corrupting effect on whoever takes that stance in life, whether the person is a small time street hustler or becomes a millionaire. One
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
corboy
Reference links live for further reading on Bandler and Grinder Only use this to free yourself. This is offered for education only and is not a substitute for psychotherapy. "34. The Alchemy of Happiness by Hazrat Inayat Khan, A Review by Bobby Matherne ... Then one day, I heard Richard Bandler say that it was possible to run the process backwards and install a phobia ... "
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