A quick reference to Tolle. Some are invoking Tolle's name so as to entice people into non-Tolle cults. Bait and Switch. Robert Burton (Fellowship of Friends, The Ark, Oregon House, Renaissance, Apollo, Living Presence) has been running a personality cult centered on himself, a generation before Tolle came down the pike. This is how complicated things become. Fact check, fact
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Jenny McCarthy should really learn to shut up about vaccines - she's not a doctor and she's spreading false scare stories that can prevent kids from being vaccinated.
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If anyone is curious about getting a 'feel' for Ken Keyes Jr.s material, here are some selections. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There was discussion some time back about various authors who might have been influential for BK. One named was Ken Keyes Jr. Those interested can get a few samples of Keyes material here.
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Anyone with that kind of restless ambition cannot teach anyone peace of mind. In his book/memoir Permanent Midnight, Jerry Stahl, a TV writer, tells us this: "Hollywood isnt about manufacturing dreams. It is about manufacturing frustration." Making people feel frustrated, discontented so theyy'll go out and buy stuff. Thats all about the New Wage scene. The entrpreneurs/euse
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Is Byron Katie in the 1% re: occupy Wallstreet demonstrations? I would love to be able to stir up an inciteful parallel between Byron Katie/Byron Katie International and the global protests against corporate greed. I recall antiCult posted some amazing information about the ~charitable~ practices of Byron Katie and related business. To bring it all together with the speed of a few keystrokes
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Earlier on this thread discussion took place about the chance that BK might have read Ken Keyes books while in the halfway house. Be that as it may, on the Wikipedia page for Ken Keyes, there is this . Keyes died in 1995 Quote) Ken Keyes, Jr. (January 19, 1921, Atlanta, Georgia – December 20, 1995, Coos Bay, Oregon) was a personal growth author and lecturer, and the creator of
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"Certain Motives are Beyond the Reach of Argument" Dear TAC, you are dealing with an astrologer who believes in the craft. For those interested, here is a URL for an essay on how recently astrology even became part of the Greek and Roman culture. It happened only when the Greeks were defeated in the Pelopennesian Wars and on the verge of take over by Rome. Astrology only became
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Wineguy Ok, you've established your credentials as a defender of two cult leaders. Do you have anything else to add?
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Some times Tolle is laughing very quiet and more quiet. Did he laugh about himself, about the listening public or about the non commenting public ?
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new post by luckycharm on another BK related thread.
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Quoteluckychrmhttp://www.mothering.com/community/forum/thread/1215705/can-somebody-explain-naomi-aldort-to-me/100 Discussion thread on Mothering.com: falsifying credentials? The link above leads to a lengthy discussion at an online parenting forum where are large group of readers/subscribers are finding out about the unproven credentials of Naomi Aldort, a person who until very recently clai
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Quotewalter1963Star, Tolle is another con-artist/charlatan. He is indeed in the same category as Swaggart, Jimmy Baker and Byron Katie. Most people don't even stop and think they are taking advice from a glum and morose man who was destitute and suicidal for some years telling us how to live and even meditate when he himself has zero education in psychology and meditation. Who was a verit
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QuoteQuote: Authority Authority these days often has little to do with knowledge, experience or ability and far more to do with media reach. Whoever benefits by advertising dollars, favoritism within dominant media and participation in elitist meetings are those who will be deemed authoritative. Authority by celebrity is rapidly replacing actual knowledge and wisdom. Or celebrity must
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Anticult, You have now debunked a profession by which I have helped many. I have read sooooo very many of your posts. Thank you anyway as I have nothing more to say except to have a nice day. Star
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Echhart Tolle has been explained and debunked in these threads many times. Tolle is just a self-promoter, who tweaked and sold his "Story" to make money and get "respect". Eckhart Tolle -- Comments From Someone who Knows Him skepdic.com/astrology.html
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Walter, I am also a professional astrologer for many years. I have examined his chart. I know this man is not the same person he was as reflected in his chart and I happen to believe what happened to him was real. You have a right to your opinion, however. Sincerely, Star
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When Ken Wilber gives a guru his seal of approval and even pimps for him, the guru is bad news. Wilber never promotes non-tyrants and/or con-artists. First it was Adi Da, Trungpa, Coen, now it's Tolle and Genpo Roshi. Here's what he says about Genpo Isn’t Genpo Roshi about the most amazing thing you’ve ever seen? It’s not just Genpo as a human being and as an Enlightened human being. He
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Star, Tolle is another con-artist/charlatan. He is indeed in the same category as Swaggart, Jimmy Baker and Byron Katie. Most people don't even stop and think they are taking advice from a glum and morose man who was destitute and suicidal for some years telling us how to live and even meditate when he himself has zero education in psychology and meditation. Who was a veritable nobody unt
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Hello All, I am a newbie and have read several responses on this particular thread. I feel the need to share my 2 cents worth. I have traveled many spiritual paths in my long journey. Some felt right to me atthe time and fed me and then I lost interest. Soon another path would come to me offering more and interesting me again with deeper insights. I have always paid attention to my intuition
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A discussion from this thread, back in 2008.
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Walter 123, I am well aware of how techniques can be used to manipulate a crowd or group of people. In fact I'm not sure if it is on this thread, but I have linked to one of Derren Browns' youtube clips where he demonstrates making everyone in a mall lift their arms up at the same time. And they all just "wanted to do it.." completely unaware that they were being manipulated.
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QuotecorboyTo repeat, the real emphasis is the use of story telling and to a vulnerable and exhausted group of people. It is Never 'Just a Story' Yasmin, please read the link Corboy provided, it will give you a look into the sort of manipulation that Katie and McCarthy do. IMO McCarthy is a snake and fraud who has jumped into the seminar bandwagon to make easy $$$. Anything sh
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To repeat, the real emphasis is the use of story telling and to a vulnerable and exhausted group of people. It is Never 'Just a Story'
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Corboy, I think your compassion for parents of special needs children is obvious. However, you may be unaware that in the U.S., more that 1300 children have been compensated by the Vaccine Injury Compensation program for brain damage caused by vaccines. This is an ardous and in some cases five year or more process involving lawyers and medical testimony.And these people all won.How many others
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Be very careful when you attend something for a serious, emotionally loaded topic such as autism and they dont start with data but start with a STORY, a grab-em-by-the-tits, grab-em-by-the-balls STORY. And it should be noted that Wakefield has been discredited. Problem is, as one scientist has put it, its so much easier to scare people than to unscare people. QuoteShe’s a compelling
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Just my opinion here. I think there can be an ethical quandry in disclosing too much information about how covert influence is done. If someone were to publish actual mechanics of covert influence, that would put that information straight into the hands of unscrupulous operators and make them even better at what they are already doing. I sometimes dread that some of them actually come and
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A note on Cry in the Desert According to Bookfinder.com there have been no editions in English since 1996 However a Dutch edition was published in 2000 De roep in de woestijn de weg van Byron Katie Auteur: Christin Lore Weber ISBN: 9789020282030 Verschenen in maart 2000 € 16,90 -
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When a good friend gets lured into going to the school, we discover afterward what happened to them. We start doing our home work and learn a great deal about the power imbalance that is orchestrated. By now our friend has moved on to facilitator certification. Now they oscillate between being submissive to Byron Katie and her organization and being dominating to the new recruit. They are learnin
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As well, these days every Guru says they have achieved some sort of perfect enlightenment. That is the oldest trick in the book. They all make that claim, Werner Erhard, Byron Katie, Eckhart Tolle, Ka-Ching Hai, the list is infinite. Why do they do it? PAIN. The pain of the human condition. And the Gurus know human do far more to avoid pain, than gain pleasure. So the Guru claims with
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