What is something you said to another person that was spoken in love, yet was not received that way, due to their insecurity? I don't want your shit in my inbox.
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Yeah, I had the misfortune of offending Marilyn Cleland Holbrook Stevens Hargrave Lamp, and paid dearly for it. Fortunately, part of me remained intact, which enabled me later to write on this forum, along with nephs, Jezebels, bitter blowouts, subnouncers, f8cking musicians and at least a few who are led only by the 'beach spirit.' Reep wrote: And God help you if that power hungry
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Thanks for continuing to share your inside knowledge of these cult leaders, Reep--as painful as it might be for you. They are obviously not worthy of any respect, let alone be treated as divinity. Meanwhile, by many accounts, Marilyn was already lying in another's bed. I think she would refer to this as the "pure atmosphere." ;)
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John Robert Stevens
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A few posts from November 26-27 of 2019: Posted by: Imapurple Date: November 26, 2019 07:23PM I was standing outside with JRS one late night at Shiloh and he was looking at the water tower and he said , one day lightning is going to hit that thing and this whole damn place is going to burn down. Well, maybe it’s wasn’t lightning but it’s sure burning down. I truly believe that he was regr
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Reep: I've just recently noticed renewed efforts by The Living Word to whitewash the online presence of info about JRS. Creating a powerful myth about the life of John Robert Stevens, and having it gain traction, should help boost sales of living word material. I mean, what good is the guy's life unless someone can profit off of it?
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Reep wrote: I recommend that when posting about his abuse and cult leader status, we write out his name. John Robert Stevens was a cult leader along with the worst of the worst. True
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I received this message today from a friend/ex-member of TLWF: "William Branham was a phony snake oil salesman type. I don't recall JRS talking about him. But they both taught the same things and operated out of the same BS universe. This is a series. A bit dry, but, wow!" Larry Bobo, back in 2018, also mentioned the non-coincidental similarities of JRS and Bran
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I remember speaking briefly with Vere in the late 70's, and getting the impression that he was a good man. Sadly, his fate is not surprising: Posted by: larry bobo Date: August 08, 2018 10:41AM Onion said, "Larry Cotton was indeed included with G & M as a leadership role after JRS died. But Marilyn was onto Gary immediately and there were rumors it started long before JRS di
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In retrospect, an appropriate response to the usual question following the Sunday morning sermon: 'Apostle': And everyone said...? Congregation: RETURN OUR TITHE MONEY!
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And if controlling the nations doesn't work out, we can always aim higher, and set our sights on controlling... Nevermind. I'm getting ahead of myself. /s Saw Enough wrote: But he encouraged them that they weren't just called to control the outcome of elections in the United States -- they were actually called to control the nations.
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Saw Enough: At one point he said, "How do you know our prayers weren't responsible for Nelson Mandela?" Because none of our prayers worked before?
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Pursuing a connection with the pope... A few posts from December 2013 Posted by: paleface Date: December 07, 2013 05:44AM I find it interesting that Gary and Marilyn are talking up the present Pope so much. At some point, you would think the LW sheep would put two and two together and notice that G&M are not following the Pope’s leading in taking a life that isn’t so dripping with we
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The ability to get church members to voluntary provide things for you, that you otherwise would have to pay for--without having to directly ask/tell them. Top leadership managed to master that skill. #UpwardFlow Reep wrote: They claimed that people voluntarily gave them free goods and services ALL the time. But I'm pretty sure that they were guilted into it, at the very least.
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In the seventies, I was married to his nephew. I had an arranged marriage in 1971 and an arranged divorce in 1978. Jesus--an arranged marriage and an arranged divorce.
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Well said, Reep. I had one personal encounter with JRS in the mid-70's. I was prepping the exterior of the house he owned for painting, in the vicinity of Redlands, and he showed up one day. At the time I was working for a local church member who had small painting business. Although JRS obviously saw me, he didn't say a word, and just walked into the house. He was inside for a short
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As you should, Reep.
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From September of 2018: Posted by: reveal Date: September 01, 2018 09:52AM (excerpt) No organization truly representative of God would do any of the following: 1. Separate people from their biological families because said families have negative opinions about the church. 2. Encourage couples to divorce when one decides to leave the church and the other does not wish to. 3. Fire
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I can't recall interacting much with Tom during my 20+ years in TLWF. It's nice to see the close relationship he has with his son, and concern he has for the future of his family. Certainly the right values.
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If your life was a movie, what would be its title? That's a tough one...perhaps 'Prophet Without a Revelation.'
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A bumper sticker that might be out there somewhere, but I have yet to be made aware of it: "JRS brought down Satan, but he has since returned."
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Going back in time, spending countless hours commuting to work, I would often get stuck behind some driver with what I considered a useless bumper sticker on their vehicle. My first thought after reading these stickers, an involuntary behavior, was usually 'Why does the public need to know this?' A few examples: 'My boss is a Jewish carpenter.' 'My pastor is a de
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It appears there is still some interest in what is being posted here: Discussion group stats: Comments: 12,306 Page views: 3,344,525 (posters with 'right spirit': very, very few)
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A few posts from March of 2020: Posted by: typer Date: March 18, 2020 09:52AM Changed Again: thank you. Yes, we were very fortunate. In my little interaction with Donna Hargraves: she seemed very sweet. My wife and I were very poor when our first-born was born in Dec. 1980. When he was about 1 & 1/2, a friend in the Valley LA church paid for me to go to a class for our baby (kind o
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From Sept.2018 Posted by: reveal Date: September 03, 2018 12:06PM (excerpt) Does anyone remember Gary bringing that word about his mother and how the church she was attending didn't see her for a year and yet didn't ever reach out to her? He was blasting them for it, and I remember thinking, "Uh...do you and I attend the same church? Because that kind of shit happens here A
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And one more thing, to Ms. "Monitor" and Mr. > Davison, I don't recall ever teaching either of > you to treat some people better than others. You > didn't learn that from me. Respect leaders, yes. > But squash people who deserve to be heard by those > leaders? Absolutely not.
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If anyone has a 1979 Victory Siege poster they are willing to sell, please PM me. A warrior friend of mine is interested in purchasing one, depending on price and condition. Thanks in advance.
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Even though a part of me wants it to be true, I did the research and Holy Jim Canyon has not been renamed Horny John Canyon--damn it. Anyway, wishing everyone in this forum a pleasant Memorial Day. Much gratitude to those who fought in real battles to protect our freedom, and provide more opportunities for a better life.
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"There's always going to be casualties." Reep shares a post from May of 2018 by Puddington: Posted by: Reepicheep Date: May 19, 2020 01:54AM An interesting post regarding the shepherding requirements in TLWF. People were hurt. JRS and G&M were culpable. They knew of situations and wrongdoing. They did not report it to the proper authorities and even participated in cove
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At the very end it asked what TLWF could do better More living word messages about the dire consequences of losing one's covering as a direct result of not being fully obedient to church authority. The younger generation, especially, can not get enough of that! signed, 'Iron' Rod #FlyEagleFly
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