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typer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In relating to these reposts on page 1171 I > continue to remember how wonderful Donna Hargrave > was. Yes, Donna was fun, caring and a breath of fresh air during a time period when people were critiqued by how much they sacrificed (worked, prayed, donated) for "The Apostle to the Kingdom." She was
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More October 2018 posts: Posted by: larry bobo Date: October 22, 2018 06:38AM It has been Gary’s MO to direct the activities of TLWF and then remove middle management to take the fall when obviously wrong behavior has come to light, instead of taking personal responsibility himself. To suggest that he had no knowledge of Rick’s activities – after four marriages – is absurd. I agree with o
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I wonder if I can sign up on the waitlist online, or if I need to do it in person.
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Now for something positive, albeit a little off topic. Today the First Lady announced the White House has new tennis courts. This should give all of us a spiritual boost as we enter the new year.
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Yeah, like many ex-members of the fellowship, I figured he was operating in bad faith with the announcement of a '360 evaluation' and the so-called 'independent investigation.' And, of course, he was. Puddington wrote: I’m betting that Gary didn’t learn anything new from the letters he got from the “new 360” evaluation. He already knew all of this
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Posted by: Onion Date: October 20, 2018 10:42AM Since Gary has announced he wants people to write letters so he can make his "new 360" evaluation, I decided to send him a letter. I don't have any illusions that he will do anything with this information but I at least wanted to take away his ability to say he had never heard of any of this stuff, as he lied about recently. O
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C H A N G E D When you, PUDD, and I got together on Oct 23 for our 4-hour quorum, the one thing I remember was how awesome the reconnection was, and the remark being made at the end that if similar meetings were to proliferate among other expats, it would eventually lead to the downfall of TLW. Yes. The retention of power within TLW leadership was dependent on suppressing communication amo
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October 2018 posts continued... Posted by: changedagain Date: October 17, 2018 09:29AM I plan to have a few friends over at my place next week, former members of TLWF. It's been a long time since I socialized with anyone, so I'm a bit rusty at this. I did email a few parameters that I expect they will agree to before arriving. I hope what I wrote (below) is not in any way offen
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kBOY wrote: Considering the cast of characters that ONION lists who were privy to these sordid details, and probably others she failed to mention, it is sad there was not at least one whistle-blower in all of APCO leadership and support staff with enough integrity to blow the lid off the whole ugly affair. I recall listening to one of those restricted tapes following John's death, and Ma
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Regarding the "transition" in leadership from John to G & M: Posted by: kBOY Date: October 16, 2018 12:56PM ONION: P l e a s e regale us ASAP with the whole JRS>>MS>>GH/MH transition details, as they seem to have been given a TOP SECRET classification, with access given only to those who have something to hide. With all the b a g i l l i o n tapes recording
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A post by fromsouthchicago on Oct. 9, 2018: Posted by: fromsouthchicago Date: October 09, 2018 01:15PM Allow me to introduce myself, I am Marilyn Hargrave's cousin. My mother and her mother were sisters. My mother's name was Mildred and her mother's name was Bessie. Bessie was part of the TLWF until Marilyn threw her out of the cult in the 90s. I have had no contact with Ma
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Most of those we encountered that Friday at the > farmer's market have since left TLW, and some have > even relocated out of the area. Good! > The few who remain are in their 60's, 70's, and > maybe 80's, and feel they simply have no other > place to go, or life to live. y
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Early October 2018 posts: Posted by: that little red flag Date: October 06, 2018 06:08AM Some people reading and posting here may have left before much of this was was discussed, exposed, happening, etc. Or, may not be aware that the actions of shepherds abusing sheep, has been going on since the days of JRS, and has somehow become acceptable in the Living Word culture. But in case the
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kBOY, I didn't mention page views in 2018 prior to Shalom's post. No doubt there was significantly more interest in the forum following the public disclosure.
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Page Views: 12/6/2019: 1,314,935 12/01/2020: 2,259,098
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Posted on this date a year ago: Posted by: Reepicheep Date: November 29, 2019 04:42AM Can you imagine what a bummer it was for JRS when December 1979 rolled around and no Kingdom? What to do with all the ginormous tubs of soybeans? Ah, give them to Kingdom business workers. They don't have any food. And JRS was using the KB credit cards to live high on the hog. But what if someone
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1 year ago
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enriching themselves at the expense of a nonprofit entity Gosh--how unusual! /s Washington Post (today): "After years of denying allegations of lax financial oversight, the National Rifle Association has made a stunning declaration in a new tax filing: Current and former executives used the nonprofit group’s money for personal benefit and enrichment. The NRA said in the filing tha
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I am thankful for everyone who has contributed to this forum through the years, sharing their personal stories--even those who back in day may have inadvertently "killed John" or "violated Marilyn's spirit." In retrospect, it was probably a good thing. ;) Anyway, have a pleasant Thanksgiving and stay safe! .
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A post by Lilith at the beginning of this very long year...responding to Onion and Changed: Posted by: Lilith Date: January 04, 2020 01:49AM Onion Wrote: "CHHP filed an amendment changing the name of that corporation to Hargrave Family Ministries - A Living Word Ministry. That gave them the ability to take the money paid for the church property into their HFM account." c
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Excellent post, fromsouthchicago. Thanks for weighing in. I have a reasonably good idea what of the awful things that many of you have experienced at the hands of my cousin Marilyn (and other relatives of mine as well.) For that I am truly sorry. Thank you for participating in this forum, and shedding light on various topics, including your cousin. I presume you never related to her as the
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Twenty years later a woman from the Valley church got word to Gary and Marilyn that she had been with John on that December 12th in 1972. Was she transported seven years into future too? Or was it just John? Nevermind.
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Off-topic: posted by a South Dakota nurse yesterday on twitter, describing the nightmare that is her job right now. And yes, I can attest to the solace of a dog as a companion, helping one through miserable times. Jodi Doering wrote: I have a night off from the hospital. As I’m on my couch with my dog I can’t help but think of the Covid patients the last few days. The ones that stick out are
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A post from September of 2018 by 'Saw Enough' regarding John's "vision of the Kingdom." Posted by: Saw enough Date: September 28, 2018 01:21PM In December 1972 Brother Stevens disappeared for an entire day and a few days later he went to the Valley Church and claimed that he'd been caught up in the spirit and taken 7 years into the future where he saw the Kin
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kBOY wrote: The G-man is the only one left to hold accountable, but he will most likely NEVER review this 'list of damages', and simply saunter off into the sunset to start on a new list. Rather than be accountable, he simply moves onto a "higher ministry."
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Yes, nice to hear from you Tmason.
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kBOY wrote: After we easily dismissed so many other 'false prophecies', the resurrection life issue was probably second only to no 'kingdom' appearing on the scene in 1979. A few posts in this forum (there are many) that mention the non-arrival of the Kingdom in 1979, and the refusal of leaders to acknowledge any errors in their prophesies: Posted by: paleface Date: M
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A post by 'pressingonbyHisgrace' from January of 2019...which references the accusatory, condemning phrase "killing John." Posted by: pressingonbyHisgrace Date: January 03, 2019 01:48PM Do you remember the phrase "You're killing John"? This was said to people who were not toe-ing the line correctly, in the late 70's and early 80's. The respons
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