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An excerpt from an article titled "Disposable Workers." I'm certain that many people who read this forum and/or post here, have lived this...and perhaps, (unfortunately) still are. Every day is a struggle to survive and provide for family and loved ones: "That is to say, the relative ease and comfort that many in the professional-managerial class are experiencing during
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3 days ago
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Off-topic, but really what is probably consuming most of our attention right now (coronavirus). This is a link (below) to a video clip of the situation at an ICU center in Seattle. It is harrowing, to say the least. Hope everyone is following the guidelines to help prevent the further spreading of the virus. Stay safe. Caring for coronavirus patients in a Seattle ICU: ‘move forward and acc
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4 days ago
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Well, even though Kenneth Copeland executed judgement on the coronavirus the other day...I will continue participating in social distancing, just in case the virus refused to go to the pit. :)
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6 days ago
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TH wrote: What surprised me most as I think about it now, is someone didn't come onto the scene and claim to be the resurrected spirit of JRS! Me to. I think Marilyn claimed to be in contact with him while he was in the "cloud of witnesses."
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6 days ago
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I am obviously heartened by every person who found a way to leave this lifesucking organization. This is a post by pressingonbyHisgrace from January of 2019: Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: pressingonbyHisgrace Date: January 04, 2019 04:48AM Paleface: "The feeling of "not measuring up" in the LW is strong, even today with the curre
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7 days ago
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Meanwhile, the independent investigation continues (presumably). #trust
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9 days ago
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A post by 'reveal' from August 2018: Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: reveal Date: August 17, 2018 02:37PM I’ve thought about posting here for a long time, and have been working on this post for months. I have been wary of it because, as I mentioned in my initial post, I know for a fact that TLWF monitors this site. Creepy! I also just r
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9 days ago
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KBOY wrote: It takes some serious 'cojones' to guilt-trip an entire group of people for something you don't actually want--a return-trip by JRS to rain on your illicit relationship. "What the hell is going on here?" -John returning, and asking G & M a simple question
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9 days ago
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KBOY wrote: The continued allegiance to any remaining cause worthy of loyalty is still perplexing to those who have seen the light and fled the darkness. Yes, the emphasis on loyalty above everything else. It was a requirement if you expected to move up in the organization, and John (of course) was instrumental in setting the tone, later significantly amplified by G & M. Now, even with T
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9 days ago
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The guess doesn't sound too wild, Reep. Now JRS was obviously wild and unruly...but it didn't stop him from bringing countless messages about submission, humility, the Lordship of Christ, Divine Order etc. #Fraud
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9 days ago
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I'm not sure about bobbing, weaving and falling over...since I wasn't there to witness it...but I did hear John conducted a few one-on-one 'bless-ins' during the 70's at a Van Nuy's motel. ;)
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10 days ago
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th231955 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > kBoy, it was not the fact that I was smart enough > to not jump in, JRS was a charismatic man, and if > not for God just literally closing my ears and > eyes in the moment, I'd probably got sucked in! > God, as I said in earlier posts, shielded me! It > is a very good thing that this forum exi
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
10 days ago
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > T H > We will add your wishes to ours, hoping for > healing to come to all who have suffered. Yes
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
10 days ago
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BTW, one thing I am really encouraged by is that not one person has expressed sympathy for Gary after receiving the news that he has been pruned from the tree. There seems to be a solidarity here about having the right attitude toward this development. :)
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10 days ago
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TH wrote: As a footnote..I might suggest that there are many "hidden" things we all don't know about JRS. It is apparent to me, this is the case as I learn more about how the walk evolved! Thank you all for your patience as I muddle through this stuff Welcome to our 'muddling through this stuff' discussion group, TH. :)
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11 days ago
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks, TH. Glad you are chiming in. JRS was > indeed controlling people from the very beginning. > It took some of us a very, very long time to > realize this. Yes--a very, very long time. But we did come to the realization.
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11 days ago
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Is this accurate? If not, please correct whatever is errant: JRS was born August 7, 1919 and died on June 4,1983 at the age of 63. He would have been 22 when our country entered WW2 and approx 32 when he started the South Gate church, the first in The Walk, sometime in 1951.
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11 days ago
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"As people here can see, I get my timeframes messed up, it was a long time ago!" No problem, TH. It eventually happens to all us, to one extent or another. Lately, my wife is insisting that I did not fight in the Battle of the Bulge during WW2 and awarded the Purple Heart. It's sad always having to correct her :)
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11 days ago
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kBOY wrote, C H A N G E D Previous post was #11,030 on page 1,103. (Fuzzy math.) Hey, I'll support any indication that God is in this discussion group, fuzzy math or not! ;)
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11 days ago
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I will post this periodically. If you've already read it, please disregard. F Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: CJLOR () Date: March 20, 2020 06:43PM Yes, thank you Reepicheep. Greatly appreciate you sharing the podcast episode here on the CEI forum (--> www.ltaspod.com/23) TLWF loyalists (I'm guessing there are some of you here):
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 days ago
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "GH brought a word approx a month ago regarding > the wood being pruned from the vines." > > Are we to believe that GH roams free within the > remnants of the ruins to be bringing messages that > are justifying all the abuse under his watch? He is compelled to bring "living word"
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
12 days ago
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I guess we can consider ourselves fortunate to > have been pruned from a poisonous plant.  Better > to have an opportunity to be grafted into REALITY > than to exist in the stupor of a toxic brew > believing it to be nothing more than Kool-Aid. Yes
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
12 days ago
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th23195, I received a few emails from regular posters, some who spent over 40 years in the Walk/TLWF, a good portion of it at Shiloh...and yet they have no idea who you might be. Can you drop some specific hints? What seems strange, is that you indicate you are around 60 years old, yet knew John way before the Walk (if I have that correct). The Walk began in 1951, when John started the church
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12 days ago
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CARe wrote: GH brought a word approx a month ago regarding the wood being pruned from the vines. He identified himself as wood? That's interesting :)
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
12 days ago
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'The Kingdom is a relationship between the lord and his serfs.' -a KD proverb I submitted back in the day that was summarily rejected--hurting my feelings, yet again ;)
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
12 days ago
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > During my 35+ years in the fellowship I never had > a substantive exchange with either JRS or G&M, > while they certainly extracted a lot of substance > from me in the form of free labor and plenty of > $$$s. Me neither. At one point I think I would have needed to get by five bodyguards to say hello
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
12 days ago
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This post by 'fool me twice' from March of 2019: Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: fool me twice Date: March 23, 2019 10:57AM I also had that same privilege to work for a different Kingdom Business as a painter. I did painting on both the JRS home and the Blix house. One day while I was scraping paint on JRS's house, a job that is not
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
12 days ago
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Thanks again for sharing your insight into the real JRS, NancyB.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
13 days ago
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kBOY wrote: My Shiloh stint was 1978-79 at the Sawmill with over 400+ living in the house. Wow
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